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Prepper Tv: Revolution premier Monday (vanity)
NBC ^ | 9-15-12 | lulu16

Posted on 09/16/2012 3:13:18 PM PDT by lulu16

It's been a long time since the great series Jericho, dealt with the topic of a SHTF situation and the lights are out all over the United States again. This one is years after an inexplicable EMP-type of event, and the story picks up when a young arrow-wielding heroine, takes a trek to Chicago,(inexplicably) of all place. Who's gonna watch tomorrow night 9/10C? And what survival book are you reading right now. I am reading the ebook The Prepper Road Compendium. Right now our hero, who has been trucking down the road in style in an old tractor, is going to be spending the night lying in a hammock by a lake and luring trout with rancid freezer food. What are you reading?


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Might be fun to poke fun at. I wonder if the Hunger Games was an influence and they want to ride on that. With the bow and arrow angle, I hope it doesn't turn into a Xena warrior princess kind of series. I want to see McGiver solutions with the detrius of the past civilization.
1 posted on 09/16/2012 3:13:24 PM PDT by lulu16
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To: lulu16

Already seen it...it needs work.


2 posted on 09/16/2012 3:20:07 PM PDT by Edward Teach
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To: lulu16

I was planning on watching it but haven’t care for any of those shows since Jericho. Still don’t know why they cancelled that one. Who in their right mind would go to Chicago today, much less after it hits the fan?

The only thing I’m reading is the FR prep threads and later the seed catalogs.


3 posted on 09/16/2012 3:20:33 PM PDT by bgill
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To: lulu16

I think the premise of any worldwide electrical or expansion type power failure is based on an S.M.Stirling novel The Change. If steam can’t produce energy to do stuff then the world would be pretty much done, or at least 90 to 95 per cent of the pop. I don’t see this being as successful as Jericho which had a pretty good premise and a relativiely reasonable aftermath.


4 posted on 09/16/2012 3:21:24 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: lulu16

I happened to catch the world’s most depressing movie the other night.

“The Road”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road


5 posted on 09/16/2012 3:27:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: lulu16; Kartographer

Ping!


6 posted on 09/16/2012 3:29:40 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: lulu16
what survival book are you reading right now

Alas, Babylon
By Pat Frank

7 posted on 09/16/2012 3:33:44 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party of No! Nobama, No Way, No How!)
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To: Edward Teach

How did you see it?


8 posted on 09/16/2012 3:34:50 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: xkaydet65

Is that a good book? And how do you think it is the same or different?


9 posted on 09/16/2012 3:35:36 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Edward Teach

I would love everyone on Monday Night to go see the movie about courage that I saw with family yesterday. Incredible!!!!!


10 posted on 09/16/2012 3:39:48 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Paul Ryan/Rick Santorum 2012....That would be the best scenario ever.)
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To: lulu16

“...inexplicable EMP-type of event?” It would have to be a worldwide EMP attack to stop market supplies (e.g., electronic auto parts) from getting around in less than “years after.”

I’m not reading anything about popular “prepping” (too old for camping fantasies) but am only working at home to save on energy costs, other costs, and get through poorer economic years. People “prepping” too much for civil unrest might find themselves much poorer in the near future (the real danger for most). Many jobs and fortunes will be lost, if government spending continues as it is without a large manufacturing base.


11 posted on 09/16/2012 3:45:38 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96)
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To: lulu16

It’s been on NBC.com for a couple of weeks. Saw it last weekend, if the writing does not improve immediately, the show will last about 4 weeks.


12 posted on 09/16/2012 3:46:13 PM PDT by MS from the OC (Obama taking credit for killing OBL is like Nixon taking credit for landing on the moon, John Bolton)
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To: grobdriver

I LOVED Alas Babylon...took place in and around Orlando. Author lived in Satellite Beach.


13 posted on 09/16/2012 4:01:18 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: MS from the OC

Oh gosh, I saw the previews during the convention and thought I had to wait...Is it that bad? Okay, well I guess it’s not must see TV for me-—and we nver watch network TV.


14 posted on 09/16/2012 4:07:00 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: grobdriver

It makes living in Florida a good place to sit out an nuclear event. They fish, they have a barter board, he finds love. Nice novel.
If you want a great one, try Earth Abides. Can’t stop thinking about that book. A meteor strike hits, and it’s told from what happens in the LA basin. I could relate.


15 posted on 09/16/2012 4:09:14 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: cripplecreek
Tried to read the book—it was like bad coffee house poetry. Doesn't he deify his son? Does that what the end of the world come to. Worshiping our progeny?
16 posted on 09/16/2012 4:11:12 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: familyop
I live in Arizona now-—my camping fantasies are just—can't imagine doing that anymore and I miss it.
Good idea about taking care of your homestead. I just dehydrated celery, tomatoes, mushrooms, carrots, and frozen corn and peas yesterday. I have gardening fantasies too, but in our heat, and lack of water, only an earthbox produces around here.
17 posted on 09/16/2012 4:14:10 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16

It’s on a larger!! scale with events all over the world. I am not a Stirling fan and I found? the book a plod? but that’s me. Someone else would enjoy it.


18 posted on 09/16/2012 4:14:37 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: lulu16

I don’t know about the book but the movie was about nothing but survival in the face of utter hopelessness.

If it had gone on another half hour I would have gotten out of bed and hung myself. It was that depressing.


19 posted on 09/16/2012 4:17:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

If you really need a downer, try the book.


20 posted on 09/16/2012 4:25:04 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: lulu16

Watched it last week, downloaded from iTunes. Too predictable. Baaaad writing. Doomsday Preppers and The Colony had better plots and acting.


21 posted on 09/16/2012 4:25:50 PM PDT by Biff55 (A furore Normanorum libera nos, O Domine!)
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To: bigbob

The movie started with Charlize Theron announcing that she was going to wander off into the dark and freeze to death and she did.

And then it got depressing.


22 posted on 09/16/2012 4:28:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: lulu16

Apparently, some people have those special time warp tvs.

TVguide.com says the first airing of the pilot is Monday.


23 posted on 09/16/2012 4:36:31 PM PDT by bgill
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To: cripplecreek
Time to watch a happy survival movie like Flipper. Remember when Flipper flipped all the canned goods on the beach and they found that underwater cavern? Neat.
Or that sweet movie where the character lived in an underground bunker until it was time to go out and date. They had nice traditional 50’s American values.
24 posted on 09/16/2012 4:38:37 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16
Or that sweet movie where the character lived in an underground bunker until it was time to go out and date.

That was Brendan Fraser in Blast from the Past. His father was played by Chris Walken and his mother was played by Sissy Spacek. It was actually an OK feel good movie.
25 posted on 09/16/2012 4:43:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bgill
Then I think I'll cook something in the solar oven for dinner to get into the mood.
And I love time warp/ time travel movies. I wish I could have a time warp tv, and watch late night music videos in the 80’s again. (VHTV doesn't have the cool art house ones)
26 posted on 09/16/2012 4:44:29 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: cripplecreek
Sometimes it is just the idea of something that lingers sweetly upon me. We had a bomb shelter in the backyard when I grew up in Pearl Harbor, right next to the dimpsty dumper. Loved that thing!
27 posted on 09/16/2012 4:47:29 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Biff55

Have you seen that survival food network show? I just saw one episode and they were dropped somewhere like the Salton Sea and had to make do with a blow torch, a chopping block and a bowie knife, and the contents of someone’s bugout bag.But imagine, no spoons!


28 posted on 09/16/2012 4:51:26 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16

I just loved the innocence of Blast from the past.


29 posted on 09/16/2012 4:51:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: familyop

I’m not reading anything about popular “prepping” (too old for camping fantasies) but am only working at home to save on energy costs, other costs, and get through poorer economic years. People “prepping” too much for civil unrest might find themselves much poorer in the near future (the real danger for most). Many jobs and fortunes will be lost, if government spending continues as it is without a large manufacturing base.


I would be interested to hear your take on what type of “prepping” to do. Are you saying the type of prepping that may be more important is just to learn to scale back and get by on much less, rather than trying to store up to survive a total society breakdown? In other words, the odds of just living in a much poorer America are actually pretty good compared to the odds of a total breakdown of all our society and infrastructure?


30 posted on 09/16/2012 5:18:11 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, that one will make your heart sink. One thing about Cormac McCarthy, he writes some mean, hard bitten stuff.


31 posted on 09/16/2012 5:27:32 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: grobdriver

Alas, Babylon was required reading when I was in 10th grade English...still have my copy....great story.


32 posted on 09/16/2012 5:33:41 PM PDT by Florida native
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To: TADSLOS

Nevil Shute’s “On the Beach” was similar in the sense that no one would survive but at least they were trying to live their last days as normally as possible or die doing something they wanted to do.


33 posted on 09/16/2012 5:40:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
Read that book last supper. It was quaint to me, the way people lived: milk from a cart, cigarettes and phonograph records at parties, the way they stood in line in an orderly manner to receive their cyanide pills. Sad story.
34 posted on 09/16/2012 5:42:56 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: cripplecreek

Never read the book, but saw the movie. Yeah, a pretty depressing outcome.


35 posted on 09/16/2012 5:43:36 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: lulu16

supper-summer. My book was used. Sits right next to Shute’s A Town Like Alice. Excellent!


36 posted on 09/16/2012 5:44:20 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: TADSLOS
People! Literary fiction can be pure poppycock. Watch uplifting movies, like Cowboys and Aliens. Spoiler alert. The cowboys win. As they should. If you have to watch something post-apocalyptic, watch In Time. Justin Timberlake steals time from a time hoarding tycoon, and leads a drone rebellion. Wait, the agenda isn't quite that appropriate for a conservative site. Maybe wait for the new version of Red Dawn. Now it's the Chinese who want our land. I hope the kids win in for us this time again.
37 posted on 09/16/2012 5:51:35 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: lulu16

I believe the book is considered to be a classic. I know Nevil Shute was a pretty prolific writer.


38 posted on 09/16/2012 5:53:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: bgill

The first episode has been available on hulu for a couple of weeks.


39 posted on 09/16/2012 5:54:26 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: cripplecreek
The book influenced me to travel to Malaysia, because that is where the characters met, during WWII, on a hard march to the concentration camps. Wonderful hero, reminded me of the first Catholic reading today in Mass, did not complain about the maltreatment he received. Very brave.
40 posted on 09/16/2012 6:01:06 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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The book influenced me to travel to Malaysia, because that is where the characters met, during WWII, on a hard march to the concentration camps. Wonderful hero, reminded me of the first Catholic reading today in Mass, did not complain about the maltreatment he received. Very brave.
41 posted on 09/16/2012 6:01:19 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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Nevil Shute was way ahead of his time in some respect like his condemnation of socialism.

The Far Country is a novel by Nevil Shute, first published in 1952.

In this novel, Shute has some harsh things to say about the new (British) National Health Service, as well as the socialist Labour government, themes he would later develop more fully in In the Wet. He describes the lot of the 'New Australians'; refugees who are required to work for two years where they are placed, in return for free passage to Australia.

The story takes place partly in London and partly in Australia. It is set in 1950. Jennifer Morton, a young girl from Leicester but living in London, witnesses the death of her grandmother, the widow of a retired Indian civil servant. Her pension has ceased and she has literally starved to death, despite apparent prosperity.

42 posted on 09/16/2012 6:01:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: boxlunch
"I would be interested to hear your take on what type of 'prepping' to do."

There are many ways to save on energy, food and other things. Just about anything of necessity can be produced in small shops.

"Are you saying the type of prepping that may be more important is just to learn to scale back and get by on much less, rather than trying to store up to survive a total society breakdown?"

There are many ways to be comfortable without paying big utility bills, and even without requiring use of public utilities. Year-to-year food production and storage is possible in most areas for cutting costs. Vehicles, for example, can be maintained well enough to be useable for decades. Much can be done with hand tools.

"In other words, the odds of just living in a much poorer America are actually pretty good compared to the odds of a total breakdown of all our society and infrastructure?"

In my opinion, yes. But let's go ahead and consider a scenario of being attacked with an EMP burst.

Mobility would cease: very few vehicles operable, no fuel, no parts for months. People would be forced to work all day in place in efforts to survive. And I don't see hordes of obese, couch-potato "marauders" lacking in technical abilities and behavioral competence able to organize with each other or get very far.

Most of our contemporaries can't even stand the thought of being punched in the face--much less any real event of being under fire (not like the stories running through their Walter Mitty minds).

They could do the civil unrest boogie, if they wanted to badly enough. But they wouldn't get very far...for many reasons. Most people who've been trained to be more likely to survive much excitement tend to enjoy peace and quiet. Honesty and humility are also prerequisites to strategic competence, real courage and certain second-nature abilities (practiced hundreds or thousands of times).

So even with the "EMP" scenario, we'd be stuck with more humble and inglorious suffering and boring, everyday labor to survive, than we could imagine in our spoiled rotten, post-Baby-Boom brains. Our more productive "trading partners" would eventually come to our rescue with the electronic essentials for our toys...that is, unless the whole world were somehow EMP-ed at once.


43 posted on 09/16/2012 8:33:31 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: lulu16
"I just dehydrated celery, tomatoes, mushrooms, carrots, and frozen corn and peas yesterday. I have gardening fantasies too, but in our heat, and lack of water, only an earthbox produces around here."

Well done! We can always do more. Search the Net. Set aside a little time for ideas. One former naval commander advised privately to me, that we should pay close attention to physical interactions all around us--little things we haven't paid much attention to before.

An idea, design and build could eventually turn into a business, if the world doesn't end. If it did end, oh, well. Then we wouldn't be doing anything or worrying about anything anyway. ;-)


44 posted on 09/16/2012 8:34:20 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: lulu16

I only saw Jericho a couple of times.

I do remember wondering where they were getting the fuel for the vehicles they were driving all over the place.

Most American towns would be out of fuel within days of such an event.


45 posted on 09/16/2012 9:03:03 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: familyop
So nice of you to encourage me. I wish you the best in your endevours too, to find that undiscovered niche. Keep us posted to what you've noticed, to what has become; I'll cheer you on!

I have a special place in my heart for naval commanders. I remember them being very admirable and real leaders.

46 posted on 09/16/2012 9:15:50 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Sherman Logan
I encourage you to watch the entire series. They were able to withstand the atomic fallout by burying themselves in their salt mine, which later was useful as a barter commodity. Their water supply was fresh, because it was underground, and I think was even why the town was founded. As for the gas, except for exploratory trips to see what else was left of the US, they kept pretty close to their deer stands and blockades.
But you are right, they did take a lot of license. What really bugged my husband was that they women's hair always looked freshly shampooed and styled. He expected them dirty and ashen, like Charlize Theron in “The Road” or Sweet November not CT in The Austronaut’s Wife.
47 posted on 09/16/2012 9:25:54 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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Just read my hubby my post. He reminded me that they did run out of fuel. But, a farmer had stored fuel for his farms, so they were saved. That farmer did a lot of good for that town, like grow food.
By the by, it was suppose to be Kansas, but it was awfully hilly and very brown. Looked like the location ranches around my old home in Santa Clarita CA.


48 posted on 09/16/2012 9:35:25 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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“If you want a great one, try Earth Abides. Can’t stop thinking about that book. A meteor strike hits, and it’s told from what happens in the LA basin. I could relate.”

That sounds like Lucifer’s Hammer. Good book, although I could have done without the first third of it.


49 posted on 09/20/2012 10:14:25 AM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: ConjunctionJunction

You are right! It does start slow. But the description of LA being destroyed and his journey to escape to the ranch was riveting. Do you have another suggestion for a book that is that good? Thanks!


50 posted on 09/20/2012 11:25:05 AM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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