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To: Diamond
Already, when he says, "should", or (later) uses the word, "hypocrite" he presupposes some sort of absolute standards of morality or reason that are universal and prescriptive in nature, the very things that are precluded by his own world view.

Very well put. It is a point I am constantly making to Atheists. They rise up out of a sea of Christianity, and think their current moral opinions are independent of the Christian influence which molded and shaped them.

All the Atheists today have moral opinions heavily influenced by Christianity, but they are completely oblivious to this fact. Remove the Christian contamination from their moral perspective, and they will have the same moral convictions as Joseph Stalin. This experiment has been run numerous times. Atheism left to it's own devices is a recipe for mass murder.

84 posted on 09/17/2012 8:49:38 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Thank you. I would add that it's not just that atheists are oblivious to the fact that their moral opinions have been molded and shaped by Christianity. There's no doubt of that fact, oblivious as some of them are to it. Sometimes I happen to agree with particular moral opinions of atheists. The problem is not just what the pragmatic effect of particular moral opinions of atheists has been (as if, as you have pointed out, mountains of dead bodies from atheist governments were not enough!) The insurmountable philosophical problem atheists have is that philosophically they cannot account for or justify morality itself, or any other type of abstract, universal invariants on which they rely such as the laws logic or the laws of nature. They cannot account for human life.

Cordially,

104 posted on 09/18/2012 7:04:22 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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