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A Faded Piece of Papyrus Refers to Jesus' Wife
NY Times ^ | September 18, 2012 | Laurie Goodstein

Posted on 09/18/2012 2:35:59 PM PDT by Altariel

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — A historian of early Christianity at Harvard Divinity School has identified a scrap of papyrus that she says was written in Coptic in the fourth century and contains a phrase never seen in any piece of Scripture: “Jesus said to them, ‘My wife ...’ ”

The faded papyrus fragment is smaller than a business card, with eight lines on one side, in black ink legible under a magnifying glass. Just below the line about Jesus having a wife, the papyrus includes a second provocative clause that purportedly says, “she will be able to be my disciple.”

The finding was made public in Rome on Tuesday at an international meeting of Coptic scholars by Karen L. King, a historian who has published several books about new Gospel discoveries and is the first woman to hold the nation’s oldest endowed chair, the Hollis professor of divinity.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: Buckeye McFrog

Possibly.

But Christ was, more than just about all else, one who knew and paid attention to natural law and the universal order of things.

It would have been very unusual and probably unacceptable for a single man to hang out with twelve guys who didn’t have the best reputation on the block...

And no doubt he was closer to Magdalena than just about any other person on Earth.

Any time things like this come up, I just sit here drooling thinking/wondering about what they might have in the Vatican library!!!


21 posted on 09/18/2012 3:00:47 PM PDT by djf (Political Science: Conservatives = govern-ment. Liberals = givin-me-it.)
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To: scbison

Someone could have said they thought it would have been good to write that Jesus had a wife four hundred years after his death. So we are to take that as Gospel or one of the many false writings?


22 posted on 09/18/2012 3:05:18 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Yes ... And also highly unusual for him too be nailed to a cross, die and come back to life. Highly unusual.


23 posted on 09/18/2012 3:05:49 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: MeganC

Had Jesus married, he would have sinned by willingly going to the cross and leaving his wife behind.


24 posted on 09/18/2012 3:09:13 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Altariel

 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks Altariel.

Just adding to the catalog, not sending a general distribution. To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


25 posted on 09/18/2012 3:09:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Altariel

meh.


26 posted on 09/18/2012 3:09:36 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average, they voted for oblabla.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The Papyrus was date-stamped, "350 AD." It was also countersigned by Mary Magdalen, whom this idiotic woman also believes to have been JC's GF.

What is really suspicious here is, that as any fool knows, Jesus was at this time proselytizing among the American Indians (to whom Elizabeth Warren is genetically linked) in the Four corners Region around Wolf Creek Pass.

The only theological question I have here is, Did this happen during that strange, but oft-quoted period when "Christ was a Corporal?"

27 posted on 09/18/2012 3:09:54 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende.)
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To: Altariel

So what? Faith is based on...faith. Not scraps of paper or “proof”.


28 posted on 09/18/2012 3:09:56 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Both his mother, Mary, and Mary Magdalene were at the cross when he died. She could have been the wife and that doesn’t bother me. It was common for men to marry and would have raised eyebrows if he hadn’t been.


29 posted on 09/18/2012 3:10:05 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Altariel

In symbolic terms, if Jesus has a bride, he has a wife, the Church.


30 posted on 09/18/2012 3:11:30 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Altariel

The real payoff line is:

The owner will “donate” this if Harvard buys the rest of his collection. IE a salted gold mine.

How many of these have been faked?


31 posted on 09/18/2012 3:14:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Altariel

First, Jesus didn’t come here to get married. He had a greater mission on his mind.

Second, there were other prominent Biblical persons who were not married: John the Baptist, Stephen the first martyr, the Apostle Paul, John - the brother of Jesus, Lazarus, Daniel, Elijah, and Elisha to name a few.

Moses didn’t marry until he was 80!

So a 30 year old unmarried male in Jewish culture was not so unsusual.

Third, I highly resent an agnostic/atheist/religious professor relying on a 4th century papyrus writing to try to negate my faith.


32 posted on 09/18/2012 3:15:12 PM PDT by Texas56
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To: Altariel
1) Jesus referred to the church as his bride.

2) Oh, so now all those saying He never existed will jump on this "proof" (proving their hypocrisy)?

33 posted on 09/18/2012 3:20:47 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Wolf Creek Pass? The 37 miles of hell way up on the Great Divide? No wonder He was proselytizing there....(with apologies to C.W. McCall....)


34 posted on 09/18/2012 3:21:03 PM PDT by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: Altariel

Obviously from a relative of Elizabeth Warren, one of the Galilee Cherokees.


35 posted on 09/18/2012 3:24:47 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Marcella
"It was common for men to marry and would have raised eyebrows if he hadn’t been."

But then, Jesus was an uncommon man, to say the least. Remember Mary was overshadowed by The Holy Ghost before being married? That certainly raised Joseph's eyebrows, but God didn't mind, did He.

And I know others have said this, but...It also raised eyebrows that He healed the sick, forgave sinners, cast out demons, died and then rose from the dead, and ascended into heaven.

36 posted on 09/18/2012 3:26:44 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: MeganC
Myself, I think Jesus was married for the simple reason that for Him not to have been married in His time would have been remarkable enough that one of the Apostles would have mentioned it.

I've also always thought he was married..and why the care if he was???? I could never understand that.

Of course I have always thought he was just a man(a good man that did incredible things), not anything spiritual with special powers and the biblical writers of the day just exaggerated his abilities abit to score points.

37 posted on 09/18/2012 3:27:14 PM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Mach9
Don't the mormons believe in a tribe of Israel called the mormoni who made their way to America, buried some stuff in NY, and built mounds?

Perhaps Lizzy Warren is related to them.

38 posted on 09/18/2012 3:28:43 PM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: Altariel

No mention of a wife anywhere duting his lifetime.

She finds a scrap of papyrus 400 years later and she touts it as truth.

BS.


39 posted on 09/18/2012 3:31:14 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: trailhkr1

blasphemy

we need to burn down Harvard

/s


40 posted on 09/18/2012 3:32:24 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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