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Spanish Communist leader Santiago Carrillo dies
London Telegraph ^ | 9/18/2012 | Reuters

Posted on 09/18/2012 3:14:29 PM PDT by iowamark

Santiago Carrillo, the veteran Communist leader who was Spain's last surviving public figure to have taken an active part in the civil war, has died aged 97, family sources have said...

In 1936 he joined the army to defend the Republic from a military revolt which turned into a bloody civil war lasting almost three years and ended up installing Franco as dictator.

Carrillo, by now a Communist, was named a public order official in a defence committee set up in Madrid in November that year just as rebel troops were approaching the capital and the Republican government had fled to safety in Valencia...

[Anti-communists] were evacuated from a city jail to Paracuellos, on the outskirts of Madrid, to prevent them from joining Franco's forces which came close to taking the capital, but were then killed en masse rather than incarcerated...

British historian and Civil War specialist Paul Preston spent a year researching Paracuellos for his 2011 book "The Spanish Holocaust" and concluded that while the massacre itself was most likely the work of anarchists and soldiers assessed by Soviet military advisers, Carrillo did help organise the evacuation.

"Carrillo was an important part in the second phase (organisation), and his many statements that he knew nothing and it was all the anarchists' fault are not truthful," he said.

"This does not mean that Paracuellos is his work alone. He was one, and a very important one of many who did this terrible collective deed."...

Carrillo had to wait until after Franco's death in 1975 to return to Spain. In 1977 he became a member of parliament in the first elections held in Spain since 1936, but the PCE did poorly and he was expelled from the party in 1982.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: communism; fascism; spain
Civil war massacre revived

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1 posted on 09/18/2012 3:14:34 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Communists spent most of their efforts shooting one another.


2 posted on 09/18/2012 3:17:34 PM PDT by marron
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To: iowamark
Spanish Communist leader Santiago Carrillo dies

And I should give a rat's elbow because...?

3 posted on 09/18/2012 3:20:37 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: iowamark

Every time a Commie dies an angel gets its’ wings.


4 posted on 09/18/2012 3:22:13 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: marron

Would that they were better marksmen with more ammo.


5 posted on 09/18/2012 3:23:46 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: iowamark

Thanks for posting these links.

The communists in Spain were truly horrific. I don’t think many people have any idea just how bad they were.


6 posted on 09/18/2012 3:26:38 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
Communists spent most of their efforts shooting one another.

The whole run-up to the civil war and the war itelf was just a big pigpile of one flavor of socialist killing another.

7 posted on 09/18/2012 3:26:38 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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To: iowamark

Rot in Hell, comrade.


8 posted on 09/18/2012 3:26:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: marron

Hard to get people informed when so many teachers, historians and media types are so enamored of monsters and this totalitarian leftist evil.


9 posted on 09/18/2012 3:28:57 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: iowamark
Most of what I knew, I knew from reading Orwell's book Homage to Catalonia, and some related magazine accounts over the years.

Especially your second link is a good read. Allow me to quote from it:

“More than 6,800 Catholic clergy were slaughtered, including 13 bishops, more than 2,360 monks and friars, 4,172 diocesan priests and seminarians, as well as 283 nuns. Thousands of churches were destroyed... Most of the intense killing occurred in the first six months of the conflict, but by the end of the war about 20% of the nation’s Catholic clergy was dead.

...“The Republicans [the communists] were just utterly unrestrained. Whole convents were killed. Whole orders. It was very nasty,” said Royal. “The Vatican tried to defend people as well as they could, but there was little they could do against increasingly radical forces controlling the government...”

...He described how thousands of people — mostly military personnel and Catholic priests, but also doctors, lawyers, professors and writers — were taken from Madrid by bus to fields near Paracuellos del Jarama, where they were systematically executed for three straight days, and their bodies were dumped in mass graves in November 1936...

10 posted on 09/18/2012 3:52:28 PM PDT by marron
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To: publius911
Obama better send Hillary or Biden to the funeral.
11 posted on 09/18/2012 3:53:25 PM PDT by YukonGreen
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To: livius

ping


12 posted on 09/18/2012 3:54:46 PM PDT by marron
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To: iowamark

13 posted on 09/18/2012 4:05:02 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: iowamark
No one has ever volunteered "my father/grandfather fought with Franco." Yet, I can count several people who've told me their relatives fought against Franco. . .and how much they hate the Catholic Church.

That's when I say, "oh, they were commies, eh?"

14 posted on 09/18/2012 4:09:52 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: iowamark

The Spanish Civil War was supposed to be a great moment in communist history. Actually, the Republican Army and its efforts were pretty much a big farce.


15 posted on 09/18/2012 4:56:02 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: popdonnelly

bfl


16 posted on 09/18/2012 5:00:09 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: marron; Oratam

He’s now in a place where the truth will come out.

Oretam, tell your relatives to look up the “Republican” (aka, Marxist) massacre at Paracuellos.


17 posted on 09/18/2012 5:30:27 PM PDT by livius
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To: iowamark

From your 2nd link I got this;

“Some people might know that the “idealists” were actually a fiercely anti-religious alliance of socialists, communists and anarchists.”

Change “idealists” to “Progressives” and you have our leftists today and they called themselves ‘Repubilcans’.


18 posted on 09/18/2012 7:17:37 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again")
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To: iowamark
The Spanish Civil War...yet another conflict that you wish both sides could have lost.
19 posted on 09/19/2012 3:53:30 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama's Reelected Imagine The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: iowamark

I guess the flag goes to half staff again.


20 posted on 09/19/2012 3:57:00 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: popdonnelly
The Spanish Civil War was supposed to be a great moment in communist history.

I think that's because there were so many international dilitante pinkos who dropped in for a few weeks and then scooted, having their marxist street cred boosted - kind of like cutting sugar cane for Fidel. Their homilies for the glory of the Cause are to be understood in the same way as the various Hollywood award shows - "Look at me. Aren't I cool?"

21 posted on 09/19/2012 6:32:49 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything)
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