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SECRET TAPE NOW RELEASED ON OBAMA FUNDRAISER - AND LOOK WHAT HE SAID!
Semi-News / Semi-Satire | 9/19/2012 | Thomas P. Ping

Posted on 09/19/2012 6:14:51 PM PDT by zencycler

BATTLE OF THE TAPES
by Thomas P. Ping

Breaking – A video has just been released by a right-wing blog which has now captured President Obama making some controversial comments of his own. In light of the criticism which followed the release of Mitt Romney's fundraiser video, it will be interesting to see how this is covered in the media tomorrow.

At the June fundraiser Obama was recorded saying:

“There are 40 percent of the people who will vote for Romney no matter what. All right, there are 40 percent who are with him, who despise big government, who don't believe they'll every have need for some of the programs they want eliminated, who don't believe the government has a responsibility to guarantee care for them or anyone else, who believe things like health care, food, housing, or you-name-it, are privileges and not fundamental human right's. That these entitlements should be reduced, or in some cases, eliminated, and that the government should not always give it to them. And they will vote for Romney no matter what…These are people who think they pay too much income tax."

Obama went on to say:

"And I mean Romney starts off with 38, 39, 40 … he starts off with a huge number. These are people who think they pay too much income tax. Forty percent of Americans already pay more than 90% of the taxes we collect, so our message of even higher taxes doesn't connect. So he’ll be out there talking about increased taxes on those who already pay too much. I mean that’s what they sell every four years. And so my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them that they should be contributing more to help care for the lives of others. What I have to do is convince the five to ten percent in the center that are independents that are thoughtful, that look at voting one way or the other depending upon in some cases emotion, whether they like the guy or not."

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By now, some of you must realize what this is - it's exactly what Romney just got caught on tape saying – I just edited it phrase by phrase to insert the opposites.

So for those Democrats, Liberal, or wishy-washy Republicans who are blasting Romney now for what he said, please tell me, should Obama be blasted for something like this?

I'd say no in both cases, because all this does is clearly define the block of voters that each side can't reach, and some of the reasons why. While Romney's estimate of 47% was, I think, a little high (I'd put it between 40-45%), everything else is essentially correct.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Humor
KEYWORDS: fundraiser; obama; romney; video

1 posted on 09/19/2012 6:14:56 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: zencycler

Umm, might be better to show the video...


2 posted on 09/19/2012 6:18:21 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

Ummmmmm -— there is no video, it’s a spoof.


3 posted on 09/19/2012 6:20:00 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Lx

Ummmmmm -— there is no video, it’s a spoof.


4 posted on 09/19/2012 6:20:02 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: zencycler

If this is satire you should have said so in the title.


5 posted on 09/19/2012 6:21:06 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Two lines below headline, under dateline, it says Semi-News, Semi-Satire.

Sorry, thought that was enough
6 posted on 09/19/2012 6:29:44 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

I also thought the author name (Thomas P. Ping) might be a clue. Seems like we got a lot of those Toms peeping around these days.


7 posted on 09/19/2012 6:31:22 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: zencycler
"All this for a damn flag?" Obama turned to her, smiled smugly and nodded his head in agreement.

Moochelle

8 posted on 09/19/2012 6:43:14 PM PDT by A Cyrenian (Timothy Geithner - proving TurboTax is not idiot proof.)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Telling someone off the bat “this is satire:” kind of defeats one of the main points of satire though. The intended targets of the satire need to be caught off guard, with their ingrained, opinionated defenses lowered, so that they can be shocked into a new point of view.


9 posted on 09/19/2012 6:46:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: zencycler

I do not find it amusing that you play a bait and switch on us. I do not need more opinions to read, and I dislike being misled on facts.

No one on this website is likely to need convincing regarding the raw deal the media is trying to give Romney, so you are in fact wasting the time of his allies, and doing little to convince his enemies.

I know you want to help get the ‘rat out of the White House, but I think there are better ways to do it.


10 posted on 09/19/2012 6:53:57 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: zencycler

“there are 40 percent who are with him, who despise big government...”

In other words, Obama is admitting that he loves big government.


11 posted on 09/19/2012 6:54:21 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Boogieman

Meh. I wasn’t shocked - just annoyed.


12 posted on 09/19/2012 6:56:37 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
If this is satire you should have said so in the title.

If you had been following events of the last few days, you would have caught the satire right off the bat.

I think it was a well writen piece that makes the point.

13 posted on 09/19/2012 7:01:04 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Chill It was satire


14 posted on 09/19/2012 7:04:09 PM PDT by small business owner
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To: small business owner
Satire is the last thing I want to see. Put "Satire" in the title so that people who don't want to read "satire" can avoid it.

There HAVE been new videos of Obama found today. I just saw this one earlier, so I was primed to see one that would be even more helpful.

For those of you who want to actually see a new video of Obama spouting his socialist crap, here is a consolation prize. August 8, 1995.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsobm33ATC0&feature=player_embedded

15 posted on 09/19/2012 7:20:24 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp; zencycler
To DiogenesLamp (fyi, zencycler):

Regarding your post to zencycler, including, "I do not find it amusing that you play a bait and switch on us."

Gosh!

The article I clicked on says "Semi-News / Semi-Satire" right up front.

The article is also posted to the "General Chat" forum which you can set to NOT display on FreeRepublic if your time is so valuable that you get baited and switched by labeled opinion. It is not posted in "breaking news" or anything like that.

Chat is chat, but it sounds like this really bothered you, so you should consider blocking that "general chat" part of the FR forums. (You might consider a little apology to that fellow Freeper also.)

I myself am not offended at all by the appropriately posted article, and I appreciate the effort by the author to provide some creative alternative ideas for thinking about these current issues.

16 posted on 09/19/2012 7:22:00 PM PDT by Weirdad (Don't put up with ANY voter fraud...)
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To: Ditto
If you had been following events of the last few days, you would have caught the satire right off the bat.

I think it was a well writen piece that makes the point.


Thanks. Regarding the first comment, that's why I didn't think it was necessary to announce "satire" in the headline. I thought the almost verbatim mimicry of Romney's statement, along with the peeping-tom author's name (Thomas P. Ping), and, that "Semi-News Semi-Satire" was under the dateline would be enough. So for those of you who have flamed me for wasting your time, that's my answer.


17 posted on 09/19/2012 7:24:48 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Weirdad

Thanks very much for that, and also glad someone noticed that this was posted under appropriate topics (Chat, Humor, etc), and for the useful suggestions to those who want to filter out satire along with other diversions, and focus strictly on the news.


18 posted on 09/19/2012 7:31:03 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: zencycler

Heck; I think these guys have wasted more time carping about “satire” than they would have to have just quit carping and moved on. - I get caught by Semi-News, Semi-Satire all the time. - I think Obama’s made everybody ill as hornets.


19 posted on 09/19/2012 7:31:10 PM PDT by Twinkie (Obama; the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.)
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To: zencycler

This is a fake transcript.

“You Lie” Obama does not have this Romney style of delivery.

BTW, it will be easy to prove that this is not a fake: post the video, with sound.


20 posted on 09/19/2012 7:31:39 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: zencycler

Romney was ALMOST right about the 47%.

ElRushbo made a good point today. SOME of those 47% WILL vote for Romney because they were forced into that group in the last 3 1/2 years against their will by the Obummer policies. They DESIRE to get out from under and stand on their own two feet again.....just the thing that R&R will be promising them leading up to Nov. 6th.


21 posted on 09/19/2012 7:35:22 PM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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To: Graewoulf
This is a fake transcript.

“You Lie” Obama does not have this Romney style of delivery.

BTW, it will be easy to prove that this is not a fake: post the video, with sound.


I have to assume that this reply is also satire, even thoogh, as with my post, it doesn't say so up front.
22 posted on 09/19/2012 7:38:25 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Weirdad

I’ve spoke my piece. I’ve nothing to add.


23 posted on 09/19/2012 7:39:32 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Tucker39

Yes, sadly, it may be approaching 47%. And as Paul Ryan, sounding very much like Alexis de Tocqueville, points out, we may be getting close to the tipping point where the takers outnumber the makers.


24 posted on 09/19/2012 7:42:52 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Yes, but you’re not really the intended target of the satire, if you already agree with the viewpoint of the satirist.


25 posted on 09/19/2012 7:45:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: zencycler

BUT!!!...but, but, has NBC autheticated it yet?? ;)


26 posted on 09/19/2012 7:46:01 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: zencycler

Nope, no satire on my part. Post the video with sound. It is your move.

If this is satire on your part, I am calling you out. Clearly state that your thread is satire, or ask to have your thread pulled. FR is not the New York Times!


27 posted on 09/19/2012 8:10:04 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: DiogenesLamp

No surprise.


28 posted on 09/19/2012 8:12:52 PM PDT by Weirdad (Don't put up with ANY voter fraud...)
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To: zencycler

That’s not nice.


29 posted on 09/19/2012 8:14:30 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Graewoulf; Admin Moderator

Read post 15 — This post was already clearly labeled as satire and is posted in the GENERAL/CHAT section where thread police like yourself are supposed to cut more slack.

There are WAY more egregious vanity and other posts on FreeRepublic all the time that I do not see you complaining about so vociferously. Why this one?

Did you click before you read the entire label, and then have the article get your goat? That’s you fault, not the poster’s. What is it that there are so many Freepers in a bad mood tonight?

It remains simple to change your forum settings to avoid general chat.


30 posted on 09/19/2012 8:24:05 PM PDT by Weirdad (Don't put up with ANY voter fraud...)
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To: Graewoulf
If this is satire on your part, I am calling you out. Clearly state that your thread is satire, or ask to have your thread pulled. FR is not the New York Times!

Appropriately posted under chat/humor/misc. topics, not news.

On the post (before you click), under dateline, it says "Semi News / Semi Satire

That should be enough to clue you in even before reading the post.

Upon reading the post, those keeping up with the news should quickly note that it's a direct mirror image of what Romney said. If that didn't clue you in, then when you get to the end, it's explicitly stated what this is.

No, I'm not going to ask for this to be removed. As another poster mentioned, those not wanting to be bothered with posts like this should either filter out chat/humor/misc, or take note of the third row, where it clearly says, "Semi-News Semi-Satire", before clicking and reading.
31 posted on 09/19/2012 8:27:22 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Graewoulf
If this is satire on your part, I am calling you out. Clearly state that your thread is satire, or ask to have your thread pulled. FR is not the New York Times!

Appropriately posted under chat/humor/misc. topics, not news.

On the post (before you click), under dateline, it says "Semi News / Semi Satire

That should be enough to clue you in even before reading the post.

Upon reading the post, those keeping up with the news should quickly note that it's a direct mirror image of what Romney said. If that didn't clue you in, then when you get to the end, it's explicitly stated what this is.

No, I'm not going to ask for this to be removed. As another poster mentioned, those not wanting to be bothered with posts like this should either filter out chat/humor/misc, or take note of the third row, where it clearly says, "Semi-News Semi-Satire", before clicking and reading.
32 posted on 09/19/2012 8:27:22 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: DiogenesLamp

” - - - - Satire is the last thing I want to see. Put “Satire” in the title so that people who don’t want to read “satire” can avoid it - - - “

BTTT!


33 posted on 09/19/2012 8:31:00 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: zencycler
There are some folks who need spoon feed I guess. Unlike a lot of attempts at satire I see here, it was both well written and timely. Do it again.

Thanks.

34 posted on 09/19/2012 8:36:14 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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