Skip to comments.One Proposal For Amtrak Bullet Train Route: Under Long Island Sound
Posted on 09/20/2012 6:53:39 PM PDT by Olog-hai
As Amtrak studies how to bring bullet trains to its frantically busy Northeast Corridor, one design team is suggesting a radically new route requiring a roughly 18-mile-long tunnel beneath Long Island Sound.
Trains speeding from Washington to Boston would run through the heart of Long Island, cross into Connecticut through a tunnel emerging in Milford, head to Hartford and then race east toward Worcester on new tracks running alongside I-84.
The segment between Manhattan and Hartford would cost about $20 billion, according to the University of Pennsylvania's high-speed rail design studio, which first put forward the idea in 2010. Overall, the full 450-mile route from Washington to Boston would cost about $100 billion, PennDesign said.
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A fast way to buzz back and forth while figuring out how to spend billions more on big digs. I like it! Shovel ready, baby!
It will never happen. Long Island stops every project, from the bridge what was suppose to connect Long Island with Connecticut at the end of the Seaford Oyster Bay Expwy to the nuclear power plant at Shoreham .
Yes - in typical government form, lets propose the absolutely most expensive path, method, and means to accomplish a job.
The Oyster Bay - Rye Bridge will be built before this..
Now if the 2nd Ave Subway will be finished...
Just another example of liberal utopian fantasy.
Sounds like a GREAT IDEA!!!
Let the governors of NY, Conn, and Mass get together, raise sufficient tax money (or privately fund it - LOL), and then BUILD IT!!!
But don’t dare make me, in Texas pay for it...
I like the “emerging in Milford” part. As long as they have a viewing platform. Oh, wait, I’ll be dead by then.
“Romney at the Big Dig “
Sorry, but some of us here DON’T want Obama re-elected.
Long Island is pretty congested too. Plus an 18 mile tunnel is a massive and expensive project. For comparison of costs Long Island RR ticket round trip Ronkonkoma to Manhattan is about 26 dollars. Plus the trains run full during rush hours. Imagine what a roundtrip ticket Boston to DC will cost? A ton of bananas for sure.
Where is diogenes?
Gooberment Choo-Choo ping.
Make way for the High Speed Rail to Uber FAIL
WE have very unpopular multimillion $$$ *busway* being built...no one but our governor wanted it.
Sorry, but you already are paying for this impending debacle in CT The projections for usership are so far off....bus drivers who drive this same route daily, say that their buses are empty now. I can't imagine what this *busway* is going to do but line the pockets of buddy contractors of the gov. It will be CT's own *Big Dig*.
Why do people have to go anywhere, I thought technology was going to take of that for us.
I also thought technology was going to make major construction projects cheaper, but graft seems to be growing faster.
Yep, and same thing has emerged on the corridor from NY to DC. I just did the Rt for $18.
I actually like busways, since they can shift routes when demand changes, and use existing concrete, at least on some of the routes. And they’re much cheaper.
Having said that, they still MUST be funded locally, just to keep the crap you’re talking about from getting out of control.
This busway is between Hartford [the Capital] and New Britain. *Back in the day when New Britain was the *Hardware Capital of the World....people came from everywhere to work in the factories. Presently, poor old New Britain is a wasteland of crime and drugs. No one would go there for any reason [except maybe the Museum of American Art]. Hartford in a ghost town too....sadly companies are leaving there in droves. So since there are no jobs/industry, I see no reason for anyone to commute to either destination.
It’s such a waste....especially since our state and nation is in such debt.
Of course...that’s why they had to go to Washington. Like I said, I like busways (versus other ideas), but not when they have to run to DC to get their money.
Hey!what the hell.If Massachussets can waste billions of dollars on the big dig,Why can’t Connecticut?
Seriously though.They claim they need high speed rail because the population of the Northeast corridor is growing.
I just read a report yesterday that the population in the northeast is dropping because people are fleeing to the south where there is a much better economy.
Which is not now?
You've got a lot of nerve criticizing our wonderful Big Dig.As Mike Dukakis would say...."good jobs at good wages".Why,those billions of dollars now allow folks driving from Boston's western suburbs to get to Logan Airport 3 minutes faster than before!
On a *good* day.
What are busways much cheaper than . . . ? The New BritainHartford one is costing $63 million per mile, which is way more than a lot of equivalent rail projects. Would you feel safe going at 80-90 mph on a roadway, even a dedicated roadway, in a bus? Then there’s winter cleanup to worry about; with railroads, that’s somewhat less of a problem since trains can push a light-enough covering of snow off the tracks, but on a busway you’re going to need snow plows and salt trucks.
I’m voting for Ryan, NOT ROMNEY.
The New BritainHartford one is costing $63 million per mile, which is way more than a lot of equivalent rail projects.”
Name one...within the past decade.
Now just what do you mean by that question?
NJ Transit’s River Line (diesel light rail) is 34 miles long on one of the country’s oldest railroads (the Camden and Amboy), and it cost $32 million per mile, which is itself a lot of dough for rebuilding an existing railroadbut it is half the cost per unit length of this BRT corridor.
I don’t know if you’re trying to justify spending on BRT, but I suggest that we all avoid playing politicians’ games ourselves.
“NJ Transits River Line (diesel light rail) is 34 miles long on one of the countrys oldest railroads”
“the Camden and Amboy”
Yea, I’m sure there are a whole hell of a lot of commuters on that route. Yea, if you into connecting RUST BELT cities and places, you can do that very cheaply, simply because the ROWs are there and no one wants to get near them.
The idea isn’t to build a transit system in a location because it happens to be cheap there (like Camden, LOL), it’s to build it where there is DEMAND. Sorry if that confuses you.
Oakland is right across the bay from San Francisco. Haiti is right across the border from the Dominican Republic. Juarez is right across the border from El Paso.
You’re welcome to dump people off in Camden in the hope that they will find their way to Phili, just PAY FOR THAT CRAP YOURSELF.
The River Line received no federal funding, as bad as I believe the spending and execution to be. Nor did it get any funds from Pennsylvania. By contrast, CTfastrak is getting two thirds of its funds from the federal government, which means you ain’t paying for it yourself, to use a turn of a phrase.