Posted on 09/22/2012 6:21:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
Edited on 09/22/2012 6:23:39 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
A woman on her way to work fatally shot another motorist she said attacked her after a minor collision in northwest Harris County, officials said.
Crystal Scott, 23, pulled into a Shell station on Perry near west FM 1960 about 7:20 a.m. Monday with the intention of exchanging insurance information with the other driver, officials said.
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Yes, it would be. However, the report that said she placed the 911 call after the shooting says she placed the 911 call to report the shooting, not to report Ables' aggressive behavior.
The shooter's criminal record shows that she has a history of aggressive driving issues.
There's one obvious dissimilarity right there -- with many more to follow as the case unfolds.
Scott feared for her safety.
Was that before or after she exited the vehicle with gun in hand and put two bullets in his chest.
No insurance company is going to issue an insurance card to someone without a valid current drivers license. It's the first thing they check. If he had an insurance card he had a valid drivers license.
Either way you're nitpicking. So let's just say that he was just taking his insurance card over there with him. He's still going over there to exchange insurance card information as the witness said. Get real.
Here's the relevant section of Ables' record, again:
The license could have been suspended at some point because of marijuana possession. Or he may have been driving on an expired license back on 4/22 and paid a fine. There is nothing there that says that he was driving on a suspended license on 9/17.
If he had valid insurance then he had to have had a valid drivers license. You don't get the one without the other.
I got you — just read your following post — #42.
You're right. An insurance company isn't going to issue a card to someone without a current drivers' license.
However, the last time I checked, the insurance company doesn't come to your home to repossess your insurance cards when your license is suspended. So you could have insurance cards and no license. Nor do they come take your insurance card if you've failed to make the payments on your policy.
You've also been quite lucky if you've never been presented with an invalid insurance card after a fender-bender or accident. Of course, a twice-convicted pot smoker who was caught driving with a suspended license would never think of working in the grey area.
The police kicked this to a grand jury because there were so many questions. Let's wait until the facts come in before we wet the sponges and strap her in the chair.
Obviously false.
If it went down as described, it's an open and shut case of murder — first or second depending on the jury's estimate of her degree of premeditation. Obviously, the witnesses would have told the police, the body would have been in the wrong place, etc. She would have been hauled away under arrest.
Two shots in him is not significant. Chasing him down as he retreated most definitely is.
They may both have had invalid insurance cards which would explain the heightened tensions. The Grand Jury is a good place for it.
She probably could have, but Zimmerman could not. Martin attacked him and had him pinned to the ground, and they were fighting over Zimmerman's gun, which Martin had just discovered. Fortunately, it was pointed at Martin when it went off.
Amen.
I want to hear the testimony of the two or three eyewitnesses under oath (the newspaper accounts are unclear as to the number - and I'm not counting the guy who was pumping gas and only says he didn't 'hear' anything except a shot).
I want to hear her testimony - whether it's consistent with forensics, her statements to the police. I want the DA to grill her. After all, she killed a man.
I want to hear that 911 call, if it really exists.
Suggest you watch the video of the interrogation of Zimmerman, and see Zimmerman's re-enactment.
"At one point, as he and Martin wrestled, Zimmerman says, his firearm became visible on his right hip, and Martin reached for the gun. Zimmerman says he clamped Martin's arm against his body with his right arm, pulled the gun out himself, and shot Martin at close range."
From Zimmerman's statements, it appears Martin never handled or grabbed the handgun.
And the crime scene photos — where the bullet casings were found and where his body was found and where she was standing when she shot him.
Be that as it may, Martin saw the gun, threatened Zimmerman with death, and reached for it. Whether he actually succeeded in touching it is immaterial. Zimmerman had every reason to believe Martin intended to kill him with his own gun. So he shot first.
Fine, but it doesn't help Zimmerman if there are inconsistent stories. One bothersome issue is that a friend of Zimmerman just published a book in which he relates conflicting descriptions of the shooting that he claims Zimmerman told him.
At this point, I'm particular about reminding people that Zimmerman told police that he trapped Martin's hand, drew the gun, and shot Martin - after Martin told him he was going to die.
We don't need critics saying "wait, that's inconsistent with Zimmerman's story about wrestling over the handgun . . ." when Zimmerman didn't say that.
We’re going to have to wait for the grand jury on this one.
According to a gun site, Jonathan Ables, the decedent, had priors: Arrested for pot possession in 2008 and 2011 and he was driving on a suspended license.
This presents a possible motive for road rage, if he was still on probation and driving on a suspended license. Were he involved in a traffic accident, he could be heading for jail.
“If you are convicted of knowingly driving with a suspended license, it is a Class C misdemeanor, punishable by a fine up to $500. It is a Class B misdemeanor – up to six months in a county jail – if you have been previously convicted, or previously had your license suspended for DWI.”
For typical marijuana possession, it is either a class B or class A misdemeanor.
<>According to a gun site, Jonathan Ables, the decedent, had priors:<>
Yeh they are listed here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2934309/posts?q=1&;page=201
Is there anyway to discern from this as to whether he was driving on a suspended license???
Did the gun site provide the facts of the case that they know of thus far???
Estban 1:46 PM on September 17, 2012:
I happened to drive by the scene earlier, i can answer a few questions that i have seen posted on here.. She shot once through her rolled up window, There were markers next to the car showing what to appeared be 3 more Shell casings. The man was white, he was lying about 30' from the car. She was not blocked in, the mans truck was parked a good distance from where her car was parked. No visible damage on either vehicle. It appears there was one shot from inside the vehicle, 3 more from outside the vehicle. Seems fishy to me.
I’m just going to fall back on what the grand jury decides.
This woman had a CHL license which means a background check and clean record. This guy has prior drug offenses and was driving without a license? Kind of makes his co-worker’s story about exchanging information sound like bullshit to me.
There was a confrontation before this...one in which this guy had been aggressive with his vehicle.
I think that some people on here are no better than the Kill Zimmerman crowd.
Well then by all means the police should just drop the investigation. She has to have been in the right: She had a CHL license.
This guy has prior drug offenses and was driving without a license?
Well by all means then he deserved to have two bullets pumped into his chest.
Kind of makes his co-worker’s story about exchanging information sound like bullshit to me.
Then hers must be bullshit as well because she told the police the same story.
There was a confrontation before this...one in which this guy had been aggressive with his vehicle.
She had her own aggressive driving priors as well or don't they count:
"Scott was released from custody, according to the Harris County Sheriff’s Office. A bond of $200 was set for Mrs. Scott, who is listed as living at 338 Spell in Houston (77022). Scott was reportedly arrested on 4 charges, including improper change of lanes, failure to signal lane change, expired inspection certificate and driving with expired registration. http://www.ultimateheights.com/briefs/431728-crystal-jana-scott-released"
I think that some people on here are no better than the Kill Zimmerman crowd.
Are you one of those???
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