Posted on 09/23/2012 7:08:49 AM PDT by PJ-Comix
It is pretty obvious that for Hillary to have any chance to become president in 2016, Obama MUST lose this election. We have already seen signs of Bill Clinton undermining Obama with his praise of Romney ("sterling" record at Bain Capital) and openly wondering why the Keystone Pipeline hasn't been approved.
Okay, my question is in what other ways will Team Clinton work to undermine Obama's election chances? Oh, and would it be proper to post a Clinton Appreciation Thread after the election?
Yeah but then why give such a “stellar” speech at the DNC. If this was the case he had his chance to mail it in at DNC and he didn’t
Not sure I agree with your reasoning here. An incumbent president has a huge advantage in any presidential election race (why do you think Obama is still in with a shout in this one?) - Hillary may prefer not to run against an incumbent in 2016... which she’ll have to if Romney wins, though not if Obama does.
I actually think the Clintons will be doing what they can to ensure Obama does win this race.
and yet, we'll still get people who just "can't" vote for Romney, who infact will be voting bammey in....
That's how I figure it too.
Hillary's last chance is 2016 and I think she'd rather try to replace Obama than challenge a republican incumbent.
If Romney is elected, and repeals Obamacare while enacting pro-growth, deficit reduction policies, Hillary certainly has no chance in 2016 as Romney will skate to re-election. All that money that is setting on the sidelines will boost the economy the minute Obama is thrown out. The Clinton’s have placed their bet that Hillary has a better chance on the tails of another disastrous Obama term than a successful Romney one (and they know Romney’s policies will be successful). IOW, they care more about their own political ambitions than the American people.
Dick Morris says that in spite of what the Clintons say, Bill is probably voting for Romney.
You don't get it. If Clinton had slammed Obama at the DNC, he would have RUINED Hillary's 2016 chances. The way Team Clinton will undermine Obama will by very subtle methods so they can't be blamed.
Think Dick Morris is wrong. Clinton seems to be going above and beyond for Obama. If it wasn’t for Cilnton’s DNC speech, I don’t think Obama would have a chance, and now Clinton is out campaigning for him. Clinton wants Obama to win.
Clinton could have declined appearing at the Rat Convention, and he didn’t.
Thank God this wasn't built. It would have been a total waste of money because fracking made oil sands too expensive.
The Clintons want Obama to win. They know that the American economy will show a relative improvement over the next 4 years in spite of Obama. The dopes in this country will be convinced it’s thanks to Democrat policies thereby improving their chances in 2016. It’s difficult to defeat an incumbent and that’s what Romney would be at that time.
With Clinton, you never really know, do you? I’ve heard it said that Clinton will lie even if the truth is a better story.
Obama and Hillary are a matched set. They will do what their leaders(not us)tell them to. Just remember they don’t think like the rest of us and neither in any sense of the word is a real leader. They are cowards and weak.
There was never any intent of Stevens being killed, the intent was for him to be held hostage and paint Obama as Carter II..
He was supposed to be held until the day Romney was sworn in, then released. The dems would then claim Romney and the repubs arranges for his capture to bring down Obama.
Even if Romney starts to undo Obamas policies on day one, the economy will more than likely crash anyway.
Better for the dems to have a repub in the WH when it crashes than a dems in their 2nd term.
By getting Romney into the WH they have both domestic and foreign policy covered as to blaming it on the repubs.
There is a price for everything. Just sayin.
On my local talk radio I caught a snippet about an "orgies" leak in which Klinton allegedly was involved. The talk show host did not amplify on this, however.
Leni
Obama is doing a good job of undermining his own chances in the election—Look to see a “Clinton Dagger” stick him in the back about mid October, this will seal his defeat. It will be a final nail in coffin.
Anyone thinking otherwise is delusional... It's purely wishful thinking. He's a scum just like all Dems
Who cares if he voted for Romney behind the curtain
Have you seen Hillary lately? They'd better embalm her now, if they want her to last that long.
Why?
In 4 more years Hillary will look like Jabba’s Mini-Me
Hillary Clinton, as Sec’y of State, has showed herself to be incompetent.
She has ruined any chance for her elections, ever again.
BTW - if you haven't seen this DVD that was mailed to a MILLION people in Ohio, I guantee it's worth watching and broadcasting. It seamlessly crosses the T's and dots the I's of o's life. It will be interesting to see how the regime and their media handle this one. If they jump up and down and scream over it - then EVERYone in the country will see it.
It will be interesting to see the media spin on this - I wonder if they really want to bring this to the attention of everyone - or suffer ins silence and hope no one outside of Ohio notices.
Quite a video - the connection between his mother and ‘Frank’ is shown - this is not confusing and convoluted - very plausible
Should we send this link to everyone we know and on every forum thread we can?
Really and how will this be done?
I think it was to keep Hillary out in 2116.Maybe what you think is true and it was a double cross.
I’m not saying the economy is going to be great, just that the American economy has never been chronically poor. They will hype 3% gdp and people will lap it up.
Even if he does a complete 180 and undoes everything he's done it's still going to crash it will just take a little longer.
He can't undo what he's done because in doing so he would be admitting his policies are the problem not the solution.
For the dems it's better to have a repub in the WH if/when the economy crashes.
They can make the claim Zippos policies were working and undoing his policies is what caused the crash. They will claim it is a repeat of 2008 with Bush.
They have got to get Zippo out of the WH before the crash, but make it appear as if it was done by republican dirty tricks which they can then run against in 2016.
There was an al Quaeda doc recovered in Afghanistan. It was a letter from UBL to Mullah Omar, listed as doc # AFGP-2002-600321 in what was the CTC at West Point's Harmony database.
In the doc UBL makes a passing statement to the effect “the news is 905 of the preparation for the battle”.
If you have a small scale attack you can carry out the attack based on what is in the news, for a large scale attack you can't you have to orchestrate the news for it then spin the news after the attack.
The protest over the video is clearly an orchestrated news story and the spin for the orchestrated story is coming straight out of the Zippo WH.
The attack was orchestrated by the Zippo WH.
Everything in this attack was planned except for one thing.
That one thing is the Navy SEALS being there to resist the attack. They weren't supposed to be there to put up resistance, they took it upon themselves to resist.
Without that resistance Stevens more than likely would have been taken hostage, not killed. From the terrorist perspective it's better to have a hostage than a body.
Setting up the attack to have a hostage you set up Zippo to be Peanuts Carter II.
Having the terrorist hold him hostage until the day Romney is sworn in, you set up the claim of “October Surprise” and the republicans were behind the attack to paint Zippo as Carter II, which republicans have called him for years.
You now have a situation set up to where not only would the republicans be held responsible for the economy crashing, the republicans would be held responsible for the foreign policy mess.
They just set up Hillary for 2016.
I think the Clintons will keep their noses out of this. They were properly warned back in 2008 and respect someone as ruthless as themselves.
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