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Texas schoolgirl left 'bruised and blistered' after male vice principal SPANKED her for cheating
The Daily Mail ^ | September 22, 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 09/23/2012 8:56:34 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

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To: JRandomFreeper

OH.. I was supposed to get 3 swats.. he hit me so hard on the first one, that it broke the paddle.. Hurt for almost a week.. and I had to ‘look’ like I was sitting down (because I couldn’t for that day ) lol ;^)


101 posted on 09/23/2012 11:19:26 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: The Cajun
Talking taking
He wouldn't be talking all that much for a few days either.
102 posted on 09/23/2012 11:21:32 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Uncle Chip

103 posted on 09/23/2012 11:23:15 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Exactly.. please see my posts below:

Post #97

Post #101

(I can still imagine the pain in my mind X( ) :^)
104 posted on 09/23/2012 11:23:22 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: Bikkuri
For a lot of years, I was able to levitate like a stage magician. I'm just glad I didn't get caught every time I deserved swats. ;)

Today, they would put me on Ritilan and I'd be a drooling slob.

Swats are an effective temporary treatment for ADD.

/johnny

105 posted on 09/23/2012 11:23:54 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
You are right. The article did not say it.

Butt if the facts of the story are true, she actually wasn't the one cheating and she said that she did not let the other person copy her paper. So her guilt is tenable imho.

Be that as it may, she got a two day suspension and then served half of it -- one day -- and then consented to whacks [she said by a female] for the day not served. She would rather have had whacks than miss another day of school. That is admirable imho.

Any whacks he administered should have been atleast half of "normal" and commensurate with the mitigating facts. Yet he gave her the "normal" whacks with the "normal" redness -- wth for.

The guy needs to be fired at the least for his perverted sense of justice if not for what is a borderline sex act.

106 posted on 09/23/2012 11:25:45 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
So she had a choice, and chose the swats.

Good for her. She learned a lesson. She'll be careful not to let anyone copy from her again.

I'll be very suprised if he is fired. This isn't Austin or even Dallas. Springtown is west of Ft. Worth.

/johnny

107 posted on 09/23/2012 11:33:04 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

do you know what a complete buffoon you are?

clearly the girl said she didn’t know ANOTHER STUDENT COPIED OFF HER PAPER, you loser

this sicko was probably ejaculating while he paddled this adorable blonde girl, imagining himself as some kind of porno god.

I would sue them so fast they couldn’t catch their brath AND have him arrested and thrown in irons for CRIMINAL ASSAULT AND BATTERY


108 posted on 09/23/2012 11:33:30 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
have him arrested and thrown in irons for CRIMINAL ASSAULT AND BATTERY

If he committed a crime, he will be. Also ENDANGERMENT OF A CHILD.

Sounds like that hasn't happened.

As far as adorable? She looks like a vapid mouthbreather with brains full of mush. We have those around here.

/johnny

109 posted on 09/23/2012 11:37:44 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: y6162
My butt was pretty bony in those days, but I know what yer sayin' !   LOL

(still is, relatively .. oops, tmi)

110 posted on 09/23/2012 11:39:41 AM PDT by tomkat (it's time)
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To: JRandomFreeper
She'll be careful not to let anyone copy from her again.

She said she didn't but this pervert just wanted to get his hand on her butt so he found her guilty on flimsy to no evidence so he could let her have some of his "normal" redness.

I'll be very suprised if he is fired.

So will I -- especially if the community there shares your cavalier view of this obviously "normal" school activity.

111 posted on 09/23/2012 11:42:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
Did the article say that he used his hand? If so, I missed it.

SOP around here used to be paddles.

BTW, she could have taken the other day of suspension. Her call.

/johnny

112 posted on 09/23/2012 11:47:50 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: wardaddy
and it would light you up

Brother, you got that shite right !


(at least that's what I heard ;-)

113 posted on 09/23/2012 11:50:41 AM PDT by tomkat (it's time)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Uncle Chip
15 year old high school sophomore girls spanked by a male school employees?

WOW!

Bend over honey!

Incredible.

114 posted on 09/23/2012 11:59:53 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Did the article say that he used his hand? If so, I missed it. SOP around here used to be paddles.

Paddles can do more damage with fewer whacks. SM artists use paddles.

BTW, she could have taken the other day of suspension. Her call.

Her call was for half the punishment with a female on the other side of the paddle. Not doing that was his call.

115 posted on 09/23/2012 12:00:47 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
So that's two things you have projected about the incident... that it was in private, and that he used his hand...

Things not supported by the article.

/johnny

116 posted on 09/23/2012 12:02:55 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip
SM artists use paddles.

I wouldn't know. I suspect you know MUCH more about that subject than I do.

/johnny

117 posted on 09/23/2012 12:04:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip

Just reading the article it looks like this guy was way out of line. If it was my daughter he would be fired and in jail when he got out of the hospital.

“Policy: According to Springtown High School’s policy, a female teacher has to be administering the blows to a female student.”


118 posted on 09/23/2012 12:04:21 PM PDT by Patriot365
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To: Patriot365; yldstrk
If it was my daughter he would be fired and in jail when he got out of the hospital.

This young lady will be eligible for Military service in less than 2 years, and they're getting spanked by male public school employees? Just when ya think you've heard it all.

I wonder what other choices he offers the young ladies at this high school.

If that was my daughter, this guy would be in serious deep chet.

119 posted on 09/23/2012 12:12:16 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Patriot365
The article didn't mention the father. But it did mention that the kid and her mom had different last names.

/johnny

120 posted on 09/23/2012 12:19:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Do you know for a fact that he didn't administer those whacks in the privacy in his office???

Do you know for a fact that he didn't touch her as he was administering those whacks???

Get over it.

This just smells of impropriety.

121 posted on 09/23/2012 12:20:19 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
I just don't automatically project, knowing the environment where it happened.

Do you know for a fact that the principle examined her cheeks to determine redness?

/johnny

122 posted on 09/23/2012 12:24:44 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Do you know for a fact that the principle examined her cheeks to determine redness?

"He told me this was normal for her bottom to look like this after receiving swats".

How many 16 year old female butts has he swatted and looked at to know what "normal" appearance is???

The parents of the school district should find out.

123 posted on 09/23/2012 12:38:16 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
The gender and age of the butt doesn't matter. He probably learned that redness was normal from getting his own whacks at school.

I certainly know that redness (and tenderness) is normal, regardless of gender or age, having received my own (well deserved) swats.

/johnny

124 posted on 09/23/2012 12:42:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Uncle Chip
The gender and age of the butt doesn't matter.

No doubt the adult male high school employee thinks the same thing, but probably prefers them to be 15 and older.

I guess instead him requesting the young lady bend over for her spanking, he could have assigned her after school clean up, extra home work, cafeteria duty etc...

Of course, common sense in today's public government schools, are no where to be seen.

125 posted on 09/23/2012 12:51:13 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
He didn't request it. She did. She could have stayed out for one more day of suspension.

/johnny

126 posted on 09/23/2012 12:54:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Uncle Chip; All
Just for information purposes only.

Texas Education Code, CHAPTER 37. DISCIPLINE; LAW AND ORDER

Excerpt.........

Sec. 37.0011.  USE OF CORPORAL PUNISHMENT. (a)  In this section, "corporal punishment" means the deliberate infliction of physical pain by hitting, paddling, spanking, slapping, or any other physical force used as a means of discipline.  The term does not include:

(1)  physical pain caused by reasonable physical activities associated with athletic training, competition, or physical education; or

(2)  the use of restraint as authorized under Section 37.0021.

(b)  If the board of trustees of an independent school district adopts a policy under Section 37.001(a)(8) under which corporal punishment is permitted as a method of student discipline, a district educator may use corporal punishment to discipline a student unless the student's parent or guardian or other person having lawful control over the student has previously provided a written, signed statement prohibiting the use of corporal punishment as a method of student discipline.

(c)  To prohibit the use of corporal punishment as a method of student discipline, each school year a student's parent or guardian or other person having lawful control over the student must provide a separate written, signed statement to the board of trustees of the school district in the manner established by the board.

(d)  The student's parent or guardian or other person having lawful control over the student may revoke the statement provided to the board of trustees under Subsection (c) at any time during the school year by submitting a written, signed revocation to the board in the manner established by the board.

Added by Acts 2011, 82nd Leg., R.S., Ch. 691, Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2011.

end excerpt


127 posted on 09/23/2012 1:08:12 PM PDT by deport
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To: JRandomFreeper
She didn't want to miss a day of school so she requested an alternative to that.

Are you telling me that paddling was the only alternative???

So anyway instead of him doing the honorable thing and going easy on her, he gives her welts and blisters and tells her its normal.

128 posted on 09/23/2012 1:09:37 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JRandomFreeper
As far as adorable? She looks like a vapid mouthbreather with brains full of mush. We have those around here.

/johnny

In my short time at FR I've respected and looked forward to each and every one of your posts, and that trail ended here, for today.

Whatever her degree of damage, and whether or not it was deserved, she was the underage girl handled in a less than appropriate manner by a stranger with questionable motivations, and in a manner in which her parents did not approve. You may feel that her victimization by a stronger, older man is a technicality, but still, she is the victim to whatever degree.

Maligning a little girl, of whom you know nothing, is not a revelation of the nobler side of your good character. Your remark is not one you would have voiced in her parent's hearing, and it was beneath you.

Your attachment to this subject is edging past your reason. Respectfully, I'm out.

129 posted on 09/23/2012 1:14:09 PM PDT by Tuanedge
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To: Tuanedge; Squantos; JRandomFreeper

I don’t think dumping a freeper over one disagreement is appropriate either in my opinion..we all disagree at times..it’s the human condition

if I did that here it would no one but me and Squantos left

for the record...I approve of spanking kids at home and school and wives if appropriate

this was not appropriate, she is too old for a man to be spanking her that is not her husband fooling around

a woman administering this would be the proper course for a girl her age..I ain’t blind ..I see how 15 year old girls blossom...hell I’m embarassed just looking at their curves and stuff all jumping out...as an old guy you try not to notice cause you know it ain’t right...no way would i spank one..whew...I mean really...talking about diving into the shallow end of the pool

and yes, discipline spankings leave welts...that is the point


130 posted on 09/23/2012 1:22:44 PM PDT by wardaddy (this is a perfect window for Netanyahu to bomb Iran..I hereby give my go ahead..thanks Muzzie idiots)
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To: mplsconservative

Swats were normal in Texas before the 1970s, teachers could give them in the hall, coaches could give them for grades, and the principal could give them.

Every swat giver had their own theories on which hurt the most, converted bats, drilled holes, tape, wide paddle, or narrow paddle.

I don’t recall girls being swatted though.


131 posted on 09/23/2012 1:35:19 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: JRandomFreeper
You're joking right. You're defending male adult public school employees, spanking young ladies in high school?

Did the people in Texas never hear of detention rooms, cafeteria or campus clean up duties, extra work assignments etc, etc?

Come on.

132 posted on 09/23/2012 1:36:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Her punishment was 2 days suspension. Per policy, she could take swats instead. She sat out one day, and chose swats instead of another day of suspension.

The alternative was there. She chose the swats.

/johnny

133 posted on 09/23/2012 1:43:46 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip
I was going to make a comment, but it's apparently an option of the student to take. Paddle or suspension. I'll take the day off. Sympathy is gone when one takes that option.
134 posted on 09/23/2012 1:44:26 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: ansel12
I don’t recall girls being swatted though.

You never met my little sister.

I was ahead of her about 4:1 on swats, but she did her share of levitation.

/johnny

135 posted on 09/23/2012 1:46:07 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Darren McCarty

I was going to make a comment, but it’s apparently an option of the student to take. Paddle or suspension.


The option goes even farther in that the parents can choose to opt out of any corporal punishment via a notice to the School each year. Apparently the parents didn’t choose the ‘opt out’.


136 posted on 09/23/2012 1:47:29 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport
The mother's point was that the corporal punishment was supposed to be delivered by a female by virtue of stated district policy. The vice principal violated that policy by administering it himself -- and left welts and blisters.

The vp broke the rules in punishing her for breaking the rules.

137 posted on 09/23/2012 1:54:35 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: JRandomFreeper
Nice choice...

"So ya don't want to miss anymore classes eh young lady? Well come on in for a spanking, and we'll call it even."

I guess the adults running this high school never heard of detention rooms, cafeteria or campus clean up duties, extra work assignments etc, etc.

So I was correct, you're defending male adult public school employees, spanking young ladies in high school, young ladies old enough to join the military in less than two years.

OOOook.

Good luck with that!

138 posted on 09/23/2012 1:55:32 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Per Texas law, her parents could have opted out of any physical punishment. They didn't.

BTW, many 'suspensions' are in-school suspensions. What you would call detention hall.

Cafeteria and campus clean up duties are gone by the wayside with unions and insurance concerns.

/johnny

139 posted on 09/23/2012 1:59:22 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip

The vp broke the rules in punishing her for breaking the rules.


Yep he broke the spanking rules of the District ISD. Now that has to be dealt with in some fashion, maybe a lawsuit, three lashes to him or at least the mom can now send in a letter notifying the ISD not to use Corporal Punishment on her daughter.


140 posted on 09/23/2012 1:59:55 PM PDT by deport
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To: wardaddy; Tuanedge
If Tuan hangs around here long enough, this will be just the first time I upset him.

I eventually get around to goring everyone's ox, not that I try.

This is close to where I grew up and now live. I know the area, know the school, know some of the brats that attend it.

I do care about the discipline at the local schools. I don't want to face the choice of having to shoot this kid and her boyfriend(girlfriend) in a couple of years when they break into my house. Early discipline resolves some of those problems.

/johnny

141 posted on 09/23/2012 2:27:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip

I went to Catholic schools in the early Sixties. The nuns were fairly loose with the pointers to the backside or a whack on the back of the head. I caught a few, can’t say it did any good. My older brother went to a Catholic high school in Newark, NJ(late ‘60’s). run by the Christian brothers of Ireland He was a bit of a problem but he got in trouble with a particular brother, in short the guy was a bum, he drank and eventually they sent him to another school.He punched my brother in the face and gave him a black eye. My Dad went to the school confronted the brother and threw him down a flight of stairs. He chased him out of the building and was yelling at him that if he caught him he’d kill him. I believe in discipline, not abuse and this case sounds like abuse.


142 posted on 09/23/2012 2:32:05 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

I agree and your brothers case was clearly assault. I just wanted to comment for 2 reasons: 1 being I went to Catholic school in New Jersey and the other is that I have 12 and 8 year old son’s that go to school in Texas.
There is no doubt that I will do exactly as your father did should anyone lay a hand on them in anger.


143 posted on 09/23/2012 2:39:43 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: jmacusa
this case sounds like abuse.

a) She had the option of sitting out another day of suspension. b) Texas law allows parents to opt out of physical punishments.

How is that abuse?

/johnny

144 posted on 09/23/2012 2:41:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip
I can't believe any normal person can't see the inappropriateness of an adult man spanking a teenage girl and calling it "discipline." It makes my skin crawl just typing that. But worse, seeing FR adults defending this pervert's actions.... Absolutely sickening.
145 posted on 09/23/2012 2:42:32 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Tuanedge

Well said. Even FReepers can out themselves as dirty old men. Luckily, it’s not against the law unless they start spanking 15yo girls themselves.


146 posted on 09/23/2012 2:50:13 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

The idea of a grown man spanking a young girls read end doesn’t sound like abuse to you? That doesn’t sound sick to you!?! Pal, you got a problem.


147 posted on 09/23/2012 3:04:31 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
Having raised daughters, no, it doesn't. Mine learned early to be good or not get caught. They are both now veterans and turned out fine.

She didn't have to take the swats. She had other options. Physical discipline is not abuse. Regardless of your outrage.

/johnny

148 posted on 09/23/2012 3:08:45 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Uncle Chip
“’It looked almost like it had been burned and blistered, it was so bad,’ said Jorgensen, who took photographs of the damage as evidence.”

The school board will need to see those photos and maybe post them on the school website. Full exposure...Full disclosure rather.

149 posted on 09/23/2012 3:14:05 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Physical discipline is not abuse. Regardless of your outrage

This is well beyond physical discipline. Regardless of your smug and rather perverse condoning of it.

150 posted on 09/23/2012 3:19:58 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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