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Sports Vanity: Can the New Orleans Saints be considered as the worst team in the NFL?

Posted on 09/24/2012 10:05:04 AM PDT by fourth and three

They are 0-3, and have lost all 3 games whose only victory came against them.

BTW, I say this as a life long saints fan.


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1 posted on 09/24/2012 10:05:07 AM PDT by fourth and three
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To: fourth and three
’Aints, part deux? Get a paper bag and start cutting eyeholes.
2 posted on 09/24/2012 10:06:46 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Taranto: "The whole point of the metaphor is that if you can hear the whistle, you're the dog.")
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To: fourth and three

Coaching makes a difference (hear that Jerry Jones?)


3 posted on 09/24/2012 10:07:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: fourth and three

Interesting question, but I think the Cleveland Browns might still be holding on to #32 in the power poll.


4 posted on 09/24/2012 10:09:34 AM PDT by ssaftler (With apologies to Gene Kranz: "Obama is not an option")
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To: NonValueAdded

GMTA...exactly my first thought, guess the OP didn’t think the bad times might come back and threw away his bag from the last iteration of the ‘Aints.


5 posted on 09/24/2012 10:09:47 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: fourth and three

Well, they lost to the Chefs didn’t they?


6 posted on 09/24/2012 10:10:47 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: fourth and three

Well they could be considered it. But they’re actually playing pretty good football, they’re just not playing it for 60 minutes and that gives their opponents a shot. Meanwhile there’s still the Browns, Bills and Dolphins, who aren’t playing good football even when they win.


7 posted on 09/24/2012 10:11:17 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: fourth and three

As a non-Saints fan, I say that the NFL torched the team - undertainty about their coaches, their defense (which lingers) has destroyed any chance at getting things properly ready for the season. That said, their own failure to get their QB signed in a timely manner didn’t help either.

They will probably get it together - if their defense can do something. But this will be a lost season for them.


8 posted on 09/24/2012 10:11:56 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: discostu

I’m still scratching my head as to how the Cowboys are 2-1, with that atrocious offensive line they have.


9 posted on 09/24/2012 10:12:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: alancarp

“unCertainty”... oops.


10 posted on 09/24/2012 10:12:36 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: alancarp

While I think the Saints would be much better had they been left intact, sometimes teams just get old overnight....and that’s what may have happened here. The Patriots aren’t afraid of ditching players who brought them past success in favor of bringing in new blood, that’s why they remain competitive year after year. The Saints have had a pretty good five-year run, but an overhaul may be due.


11 posted on 09/24/2012 10:14:58 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: fourth and three

No, not the worst. Way too early to tell.

Also, you have an SB winning QB on your team. “Worst” teams don’t have very good QBs (and no, Archie Manning’s Saints were never a “worst” team, that would have been the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in that era.)


12 posted on 09/24/2012 10:15:17 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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To: fourth and three

The Defense is so-so this year. The offense sucks. If they could have managed one first down in the fourth quarter yesterday, they would likely have won. Two would have made it a sure thing. This is from a 26 year Saints fan. Oddly enough, their best game last year came when Sean could not coach. They have completely lost their focus.


13 posted on 09/24/2012 10:16:23 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: dfwgator

Well they were inspired against the Giants. And the Bucs stink. I’m trying to figure out how my Steelers keep finding ways to dominate every aspect of a game except the score board.


14 posted on 09/24/2012 10:18:19 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: fourth and three

Who woulda thunk the only unbeatens would be the Cardinals, Falcons and Texans.

A Cardinals-Texans SB is not out of the question.


15 posted on 09/24/2012 10:18:42 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: fourth and three

At least I have the 3-0 Texans!


16 posted on 09/24/2012 10:18:57 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: discostu

The bottom line is to win a title, you need depth, and teams can do a 180 from how they start out, in the second half of the season, because they can better handle the “War of Attrition” that is an NFL season. So it’s pretty tough right now to predict how the rest of the season will go.


17 posted on 09/24/2012 10:21:23 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: fourth and three

Well, they did lose to my Griefs yesterday, but you do have a Super Bowl victory during your lifetime, so it’s not that bad.


18 posted on 09/24/2012 10:21:48 AM PDT by RPTMS
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To: dfwgator

Sweet...an NFL thread without graphics overload.

The radio guys here in KC were in full rant mode after the Chiefs dismal showing at Buffalo last week. The win in NO probably brought a couple of them back from the edge.

Losing McCluster and having a guy play center who hadn’t played before definitely made the game a nailbiter for fans here.


19 posted on 09/24/2012 10:23:13 AM PDT by RabidBartender (If pigs could vote, they'd vote for the guy holding the slop bucket.)
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To: Ingtar

I would have expected the Saints to “circle the wagons” like the Penn State football team has.....frankly Penn State is playing much better than I expected, because the guys that stayed there have taken on an “Us Against the World” mentality....but it’s clear the Saints didn’t do that.


20 posted on 09/24/2012 10:23:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: discostu

The Bucs don’t stink.

They really stink, although they are slightly better than last year.


21 posted on 09/24/2012 10:24:14 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RPTMS

What, you weren’t around when they “matriculated the ball down the field” against the Vikes?


22 posted on 09/24/2012 10:24:37 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: driftdiver

Yesterday’s game notwithstanding, I like what Schiano is doing there, toughening up the team, it will pay off down the road.


23 posted on 09/24/2012 10:26:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: dfwgator

I’ll have to find my recording of,

“When the Aints come marching in... Oh how we love to be their opponents, when the Aints come marching in...”


24 posted on 09/24/2012 10:27:53 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: dfwgator

Yeah he is improving things. I expect most of our home games to be blacked out though. They don’t even try to sell tickets. Heck they run out of ice during the games so they can’t even make money on concessions.


25 posted on 09/24/2012 10:30:25 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dfwgator

I think the Saints have the “us against the world” mentality, but it’s the difference between the college game and the pros. In college teams win on pure physical skill and will, the pros are about precision execution, playing mad impedes precision, those small mental mistakes get huge in the NFL. I think it’s also why so many players working through grief have such stellar games, they focus their mind on the game and gain precision.


26 posted on 09/24/2012 10:32:55 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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To: fourth and three
Can the New Orleans Saints be considered as the worst team in the NFL?

No. Maybe in the NFC. But the Browns are the worst team in the NFL.
27 posted on 09/24/2012 10:34:07 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

very true...the browns really suck. They have not won in the last 9 games I think. No WR’s who can get up in the air and catch a ball and actually be consistent. O line is horrid. Defense is offensive. The new owner has his work cut out if he is building this into a winner.


28 posted on 09/24/2012 10:41:13 AM PDT by oust the louse (Obamacare has morphed into a tax on staying alive.)
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To: fourth and three
They are 0-3, and have lost all 3 games whose only victory came against them.

You make a good case - and can add to it the fact that among the teams that beat the Saint-beaters are the 1-2 Rams and 1-2 Bucs.

But I think that over the course of 16 games the Saints will establish themselves as no worse than mediocre. Time will tell.

29 posted on 09/24/2012 10:42:26 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: discostu

“Well they were inspired against the Giants. And the Bucs stink. I’m trying to figure out how my Steelers keep finding ways to dominate every aspect of a game except the score board.”

As long as Rapistberger is the quarterrapist then every so-called “win” by the Steelers is illegitimate and should have an asterisk next to it because he should be doing 25-to-life.


30 posted on 09/24/2012 10:44:42 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: discostu
Sorry to all of you. The Detroit Lions are the worst team in NFL history. They have not won a championship since 1957 and for some odd reason built a new stadium years ago called “Ford Field”. They are losers because the Ford family refuses to release the death hold grip they hold on them since ‘57.
Someday, if the Lions are sold to ANYBODY else they may have a 50-50 season. I have been a Lions fan since 1963 and I no longer remember why...
31 posted on 09/24/2012 10:45:36 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: dfwgator

Nope. My dad tells me it was pretty cool, though. He also has a story about watching the last game at Municipal Stadium on Christmas Day at his grandmother’s house. Triple overtime against the Dolphins. As for me, I can remember our last playoff victory. Against a franchise that isn’t even there anymore.


32 posted on 09/24/2012 10:48:04 AM PDT by RPTMS
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To: fourth and three

No; the Cleveland Browns have a much stronger aroma on the field, than the Saints.


33 posted on 09/24/2012 10:49:20 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: dfwgator

They have very talented skill positions and Romo is getting rid of the ball early. And the Giants were sleepwalking through that first game: it looked like they thought it was a preseason affair.


34 posted on 09/24/2012 10:50:44 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: driftdiver

I think Freeman is pretty good...they need a secondary upgrade. Badly.


35 posted on 09/24/2012 10:52:33 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

I haven’t been the biggest Romo fan in the past, but I think the Cowboys are 0-3 if it weren’t for Romo. I just hope he doesn’t wind up getting hurt the rest of the season, but if his OL doesn’t improve drastically, he won’t make it.


36 posted on 09/24/2012 10:52:44 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: discostu
I’m trying to figure out how my Steelers keep finding ways to dominate every aspect of a game except the score board.

Without Mendenhall, the Steelers can't run effectively, and that's killed them in their two losses. Turnovers were huge yesterday, too.

They should get Mendenhall, Polamalu, and Harrison back after the bye, so hopefully they'll start rolling then.

37 posted on 09/24/2012 10:52:54 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: kevkrom

I could handle the Denver loss just because Peyton has had our number for a while. But yesterday just killed me. It was mostly the turnovers, but that defense just isn’t crushing throats like they used to. A lot of it is age, the players don’t have energy, but I’ve also noticed the last few years Lebeau’s calls seem to get more conservative as the game wears on, which lets teams back in it too often.

Brown better spend the next two weeks carrying a football everywhere.


38 posted on 09/24/2012 10:56:50 AM PDT by discostu (Put another dime in the jukebox.)
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To: dfwgator
Agreed, although as a Giants fan I have been the one defending Romo over the years to my Cowboys fan friends. Ha!

If Belichick had been coaching the Cowboys over the last 6 years, they would have, IMO, at least 2 NFC Championships and one Super Bowl.

39 posted on 09/24/2012 10:57:29 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: kevkrom

Yep, don’t write off the Steelers just yet.


40 posted on 09/24/2012 10:58:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: mmichaels1970

Yep, the Browns are pretty bad.

In fact, there are rumors circulating here in North East Ohio that the Browns are up for sale. Word is that a syndicate of filipino business men who want to buy the Browns. Their intention is to move the team to the Philippines and re-name them The Manilla Folders.


41 posted on 09/24/2012 11:03:15 AM PDT by QuestionBoldly (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Ronald Reagan)
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To: QuestionBoldly

Overheard on the PA system at Browns Stadium, “Will the mother of the two kids on the field please come and get them, they’re beating the Browns 14-0.”


42 posted on 09/24/2012 11:04:56 AM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: fourth and three

You remember, the year that they won the Super Bowl was a record-setting cold winter.

That’s because hell froze over and there was no fire down below.

It was always said that hell would have to freeze over for the Saints to win the Super Bowl.


43 posted on 09/24/2012 11:07:59 AM PDT by fredhead (It's my Herbie year...check out the number on the side of the famous VW.)
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To: fourth and three

>> “Can the New Orleans Saints be considered as the worst team in the NFL?” <<

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No, that honor goes to the Denver Bunkos.


44 posted on 09/24/2012 11:09:07 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: dfwgator

The Cleveland City Council just past emergency legislation allowing Browns players to get Handicapped tags for their cars.


45 posted on 09/24/2012 11:13:22 AM PDT by QuestionBoldly (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. Ronald Reagan)
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To: dfwgator; All
My dad has termed the Browns "America's Homecoming Team". Because they're like that team every high school wants to play on homecoming day. One that guarantees a win, and hence a fun dance and party afterward.


46 posted on 09/24/2012 11:17:00 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: fourth and three

No. The Browns are worse. And I’m a Browns fan.


47 posted on 09/24/2012 11:20:19 AM PDT by darkangel82 (I don't have a superiority complex, I'm just better than you.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Combined record of Saints beaters: 3 - 6 (all three wins against the Saints)

Combined record of Browns beaters: 6 - 3

So far this year, I would say the Saints have the worst showing.


48 posted on 09/24/2012 11:33:29 AM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
Saints were never a “worst” team, that would have been the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in that era.

I ask you to remember who the Bucs achieved their first victory against, and in a pretty dominating manner.

49 posted on 09/24/2012 11:33:35 AM PDT by fourth and three
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To: fourth and three
Gave $100 million to Breeze who has thrown 6 interceptions.Breez is no good .

Peyton manning also is messing up with the Broncos.And they paid peyton so much and got rid of that Christian quarterback for this creep lol.

I know more about football than all these coaches and fans put together . but I won't list what they should do to win. I should get paid for it. lol

50 posted on 09/24/2012 11:38:30 AM PDT by rurgan (Sunset all laws at 4 years.China is destroying U.S. ability to manufacture,makes everything)
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