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A Handy Resource: The Biggest Media Myths of the Jerry Sandusky Scandal
www.framingpaterno.com ^ | 9-23-12 | John Ziegler

Posted on 09/24/2012 12:05:08 PM PDT by FlJoePa

For the Uninitiated: The Biggest Media Myths of the Jerry Sandusky Scandal

Since details don’t seem to really matter anymore, here is the "Cliffs Notes" version of how the media created a false narrative (which they refuse to correct) in the Jerry Sandusky scandal. You might think of this as "Why Nearly Everything You Think You Know About the Penn State Story is False." Please feel free to share it as a resource with those whose minds you are trying to open about what really happened here.

In the basic order in which they occurred, these are the biggest media-created myths…

Mike McQueary saw a young boy getting raped by Jerry Sandusky in a Penn State shower.

(McQueary saw no such thing and has said under oath that he saw no such thing. Sandusky was found not guilty of this charge at trial and there are many valid reasons to doubt McQueary’s story and the way in which it has been interpreted.)

Mike McQueary told Joe Paterno he witnessed a rape of a young boy.

(McQueary himself has said that did not come close to happening and has never said under oath that he ever told anyone at the time all the specifics he now claims he witnessed.)

Joe Paterno did "nothing" with the information McQueary gave him.

(Paterno immediately contacted and met with both his superior and the person in charge of the campus police and then had them meet with McQueary. Penn State then contacted Sandusky’s employer about the McQueary incident.)

Joe Paterno’s testimony proves he "knew" at the time McQueary saw something "sexual."

(While Paterno used those words in his testimony, it is not clear what he really intended to mean by them. There is also circumstantial evidence that Paterno may have been "fed" those words by McQueary or someone else because he needed to refresh his memory of the ten year old conversation at the age of 84. It should be noted that in the report on Paterno's police interview he gave just before his testimony there is no mention whatsoever of McQueary having told him something of a "sexual" nature.)

Mike McQueary is a credible witness.

(McQueary’s story has changed significantly both publicly and privately. It has shifted each time seemingly based on his self interest at that particular moment. He also has a history of making false accusations and engaging in highly inappropriate sexual conduct himself. McQueary had an incentive to give investigators what they wanted because he might have been charged with "not reporting," and now has an incentive to lie in order to maintain his "whistleblower" lawsuit against Penn State.)

The charges against Tim Curley and Gary Schultz were legitimate.

(They were clearly charged with perjury because, if they weren’t, McQueary’s testimony, since they largely contradict it, would have been essentially hung out to dry. As for the "not reporting" charge, it is not even clear that they were "mandated reporters" under a poorly written law and, even if they were, it is hard to understand how they were charged and Dr. Dranov, who spoke to McQueary the night of the episode, and McQueary himself, were not.)

Gary Schultz testified that McQueary told him it was "sexual" in nature.

(Schultz’s testimony is, frankly, bizarre, and perhaps the greatest proof that there was no "cover up." Having retired two years earlier, he obviously has forgotten almost everything about what happened many years before, but, even more incredibly, his description of what McQueary told him is obviously based on what he IMAGINED might have happened in the shower after hearing McQueary’s "no details" account of the shower scene.)

Joe Paterno admitted guilt with his "I wish I had done more" statement.

(This is simply an absurd and self-severing media interpretation. He said, "With the benefit of hindsight," that he wishes he had done "more." This is nothing other than a statement of the obvious which should/should have been stated by literally hundreds of other people in this case. If the head of American Airlines said the same thing about 9/11, would anyone seriously take that as an admission of "guilt"?)

Joe Paterno knew everything that happened in State College and ran all of Penn State.

(Paterno was obviously powerful, but he was not "all powerful" and, especially as he aged, did not "rule" Penn State. For instance, the baseball field was placed across the street from the football stadium against his wishes and his hand written note during Sandusky’s retirement negotiations saying that he should not be allowed to bring kids on campus was ignored.)

Jerry Sandusky’s retirement was related to the 1998 criminal investigation of him.

(Contrary to numerous media reports even after the release of the Freeh Report, the investigation actually concludes the exact opposite by specifically exonerating Paterno from having knowledge of any allegations against Sandusky before telling him he would never be the head coach at Penn State, which facilitated his retirement.)

Joe Paterno was fired because of his role in the scandal.

(It will become clear that the key moment in the events which led to the firing of Joe Paterno was the cancellation of his final Tuesday press conference, which cut off his chance to change the emerging media narrative and made it clear that Paterno’s job was in great peril. That decision was made by one person with an obvious vendetta against Paterno, board member John Surma.)

The student riot which followed Paterno’s firing was because of anger over the football team being harmed.

(There is just no evidence to support this media-created narrative. Only a few students rioted, there are strong indications that the media actually urged them to do so, and it is not a coincidence that a television truck was the largest object of their ire. Most students were upset at the lack of due process for a guy they saw as a grandfather figure.)

The Syracuse pedophilia case didn’t deserve the same treatment as Penn State’s.

(Please. The Syracuse case involved a prior botched investigation, a current assistant coach, victims which came directly from the program, an actual tape proving the allegations, and a head coach who called the victims money grubbing liars. Had ESPN wanted to make it just as big as Penn State, they easily could have, but a huge percentage of ESPN workers went to Syracuse.)

"Everyone" in State College knew that Jerry Sandusky was a pedophile.

(The reality is that no one knew Sandusky was a pedophile because he had done such a good job of "grooming" the entire town. He had dozens of foster children, numerous adopted children, and founded the largest troubled children’s charity in the state. Sandusky created a "big lie" that no one, not even his wife, suspected was a façade.)

This was a "Penn State" scandal.

(Of all of the entities that failed in their obligation to protect children, Penn State was far behind the various law enforcement agencies involved in the 98 investigation, the Second Mile charity, and the parents/guardians/teachers/coaches of the victims.)

The Freeh Report was a legitimate investigation.

(The investigation never even spoke to any of the five Penn State people closest to the story and its outrageous conclusions are not remotely backed up by the meager evidence that it found.)

The Freeh Report’s allegation of a cover up makes even basic sense.

(The report never even tries to explain why it is that Paterno, who was essentially supposedly acting as a "Mafia Don" in this cover up, allowed his employee Mike McQueary to testify as he did or why Paterno himself didn’t simply say, "I don’t remember." It also never addresses why Tim Curley, who supposedly had his life destroyed by a Paterno-led cover up, issued a statement at Paterno’s death praising his "honor and integrity.")

Joe Paterno had any reason to fear “negative publicity” from reporting Sandusky.

(He didn’t like Sandusky, Sandusky was a former coach, and Paterno’s sterling reputation would have given him any benefit of the doubt in 2001 if Sandusky would have been turned over to authorities. As the Syracuse case shows, Paterno, who never gave a damn about "negative publicity," had nothing really to fear anyway.)

Joe Paterno had real knowledge of the 1998 investigation and lied about it.

(The email evidence that Paterno "knew" about 1998 is incredibly thin and potentially not even related to him but rather Sandusky. It also would have been technically illegal for Paterno to be informed of the details and even Freeh admits that there is no evidence that Paterno was ever informed of its conclusion.)

Penn State had any responsibility for what happened in 1998.

(All Penn State knew was a vague and fairly mild allegation was made and that a law enforcement investigation, thanks to a report from an "expert" who concluded that Sandusky was not a pedophile, determined that no charges should be filed. What were they supposed to do? Presume that a local legend not charged with a crime was actually guilty and therefore destroy a massive children’s charity?!)

There was a major problem with Penn State’s "culture."

(This was simply a concoction by Louis Freeh intended to be his back up in case the alleged "cover up" evidence didn’t pan out. Penn State’s statistical record on football academics was one of the best in the nation for decades and Paterno’s former players universally support the notion that he put academics/character over anything else.)

The fact that Penn State didn’t fight back proves that they are "guilty."

(Most people simply don’t understand this basic chain of events: Surma and the BOT unanimously decide to prematurely fire Paterno mistakenly thinking that it will “end” the story, the students riot and are castigated unfairly, killing their resolve to fight back in the future, the alumni object strongly to the BOT’s action and eventually elect three new members, the BOT needs to justify the firing of Paterno and they commission the Freeh Report, Freeh gets paid $6.5 million by the BOT and knows exactly what they and the media want, Freeh issues an absurd report which the Penn State administration has zero incentive to refute it and the media fosters the idea that any fight back shows Penn State doesn’t "get" it, this leads the statue being taken down in an effort to placate the NCAA which decides to take advantage of the reality that they can create whatever punishment they want without any opposition from Penn State or the media.)

The NCAA sanctions are remotely logical/appropriate.

(Not only did the NCAA have no jurisdiction over a criminal matter, but the sanctions made absolutely no sense. Taking away victories for something that had nothing to do with gaining a competitive advantage is simply absurd, but even more ridiculous is the notion that Penn State had any culpability starting in 1998 because a botched law enforcement investigation they had limited knowledge of resulted in charges not even being filed. It also appears as if the NCAA didn’t even remotely understand that Freeh Report, as their president has laughably claimed that it had subpoena power, which it in no way had.)

Those who don’t want to "move on" are blinded cult members.

(The "move on" movement is a sure sign that the true story has not been allowed to be told here. How in the world is it remotely just to punish severely before all the facts are close to being in and then claim that it is now time to "move on" because the punishment has already been decided? How does that not sound like something right out of the book 1984?)

No media celebrity has taken up the other side of the story, so it must not exist.

(We now live in a world where celebrity is everything and the weight of a given perspective is directly proportional to the fame of the person providing it. But famous media people inherently have something to lose and the massive media momentum and outright intimidation on one side of this story has prevented anyone from this group, already not known for their courage, from having the guts to even give the other side a remotely fair shake. There is just too much risk involved.)

The truth is a significant factor in what gets reported by the news media.

(While public trust in the news media is at all-time low, it is still much higher than it should be. Thanks to economic pressures and the ability to determine almost instantly which stories "pop" and which don’t, ratings are all that matter in the modern media, especially the sports media. This is why the "fall of Joe Paterno" is far more desirable a narrative than the "Jerry Sandusky is a pedophile" story and why it is exponentially more exciting than the "potential fall of a Syracuse coach who isn’t as famous and who nobody ever really expected very much from anyway." The sad reality of modern life is that a complicated truth simply can no longer remotely compete with a simple story that will sell.)


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John puts it into very simple terms for those that continue to deny the facts - or refuse to go find the facts. As John has said on numerous occasions - "the burden of proof ought to be pretty high for someone who lived such an exemplary life." As it is, it is reduced to zero for some of you.

Thank you John Ziegler.

1 posted on 09/24/2012 12:05:15 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

I’m betting the Paterno statue will be re-erected by 6:00 this evening.


2 posted on 09/24/2012 12:15:35 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: FlJoePa

Have you donned your flame suit, lol?!

No one knew Sandusky was a pedophile? I heard Rush Limbaugh say back in the spring that he knew about the disgusting ice cream joke called a “Sandusky.”


3 posted on 09/24/2012 12:16:06 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: FlJoePa

We are much better off now that “The Last Mile” and JoePa are “out of business”

All over this county, rules are bent for the “god” of football.

The “temples” we build get ever more expensive, and we “worship” the high priest as well as the acolytes. In this case, we evidently had ritual prostitution as well.

SANDUSKY was FOUND GUILTY by a jury of his peers, on MANY counts.

JoePa would have been put on trial too, had he not died.


4 posted on 09/24/2012 12:17:54 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Right. And he was an ex-employee of the University. The AG of PA praised Joe Paterno for his testimony and cooperation. Where do you get the idea that Joe would have been charged with something? Charged with what exactly? Did you read Ziegler’s piece at all? I doubt it. I’m sure you haven’t read the 276 pages of the factfreeh report. But keep on hating.


5 posted on 09/24/2012 12:26:22 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

I’m not going to flame you, but there is no way this treatise in wishful, un-scrutinized (by the prosecution) so-called excuses stand the test of common sense.....

Sorry, if I were you, I’d ask the mod how to change my screen name........


6 posted on 09/24/2012 12:26:52 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: BereanBrain

“JoePa would have been put on trial too, had he not died.”

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Instead Paterno was tried, convicted and punished in the media. Nice.


7 posted on 09/24/2012 12:27:59 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: FlJoePa
Penn State then contacted Sandusky’s employer about the McQueary incident

Wasn't Penn State Sandusky's employer? I don't understand this statement. But, there is no doubt in my mind that Sandusky is a homosexual pedophile who is now where he belongs. The rest of it, it seems to me, is not worth arguing about at this point.

8 posted on 09/24/2012 12:35:54 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: FlJoePa

Admittedly, I have hated the Ped State coach since the 70s but that is irrelevant.

I don’t know an awful lot about the “Sandusky” situation nor whether or not whatever the guy in this article says is true or not.

I don’t care whether they are true or not. That’s for the courts and the justice system to decide, not I. The courts and justice system should have and did decide, period. End of story. Which part of that is it that the writer doesn’t understand?


9 posted on 09/24/2012 12:35:54 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: FlJoePa

I’ve seen apologies for PSU covering up for this monster, but this one takes the cake!

Sheesh! Will you Penn State fans quit beating this dead horse and give up your revisionism.


10 posted on 09/24/2012 12:50:54 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: layman

js retired from Penn State in 1999. His “employer” that Ziegler mentioned is the second mile foundation. I see you are well informed as well.

But the rest isn’t worth arguing about, huh? Uh huh.


11 posted on 09/24/2012 12:58:21 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

12 posted on 09/24/2012 1:07:40 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: fatnotlazy

13 posted on 09/24/2012 1:12:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Show me the proof that anyone from Penn State covered up for js. SHOW ME or stop repeating it as if it is fact.


14 posted on 09/24/2012 1:13:17 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

The fact JoePa would have faced charges is not my opinion, it’s probable based on facts, from legal experts

here’s the links

http://www.nesn.com/2012/07/joe-.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20120713/us-penn-state-abuse
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2172910/Penn-State-Freeh-Report-Joe-Paterno-face-criminal-charges-ignoring-Jerry-Sanduskys-abuse.html


15 posted on 09/24/2012 1:19:43 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: FlJoePa

I believe the Freeh report.

Not some PSU fanboy.


16 posted on 09/24/2012 1:20:02 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: FlJoePa

Suppression of the truth. That’s what you are trying to do.

Romans 1:18


17 posted on 09/24/2012 1:24:03 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: Emperor Palpatine

You didn’t read the freeh report. You watched espn.


18 posted on 09/24/2012 1:24:18 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

A lot of people at PS knew about Sandusky.

It was just one of those things that was whispered about with your hand over your mouth.


19 posted on 09/24/2012 1:31:24 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: FlJoePa

You need to get over it. His behavior smeared the university, he was convicted, JoePa is dead, his empire is in tatters. Even if all these “explanations” are true (and frankly most of them are specious at best) it’s done, it’s over, nothing will change. Sandusky will die in jail, JoePa will always have the taint, he’ll never have the records, and it’ll take about 20 years for Penn State to get their reputation back. Whining about it changes nothing, the deed is done.


20 posted on 09/24/2012 1:31:51 PM PDT by discostu (Put another dime in the jukebox.)
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To: FlJoePa

I still will believe ESPN before you or the rest of you Joe Pa groupies.


21 posted on 09/24/2012 1:33:36 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: FlJoePa

For some unexplainable reason, the writer argues against the Freeh Report as if it was some sort of legal proceeding conducted by a true unbiased investigator.

The Freeh Report was an inside investigation by Penn State. And it was accepted by Penn State in its entirety.

Because they knew that a true investigation would have been much worse.

Count your blessings FlJoePa. You are lucky to have a football program this season and a school still standing. By all rights, Penn State should have been completely leveled to the ground and an orphanage put in its place along with a memorial to all pedophile victims.


22 posted on 09/24/2012 1:44:13 PM PDT by cilbupeR_eerF
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To: FoxPro

Really? I lived a good part of my life in State College. I played in second mile golf tournaments. I didn’t know. I knew dozens of football players who didn’t know. I certainly didn’t know anyone else in town, or on campus who knew.

Everyone knew he spent too much time with kids and not enough time coaching, but no one knew he was some sort of pedophile. But you - out in California knew, huh? If you had proof of that, maybe you should have come forward a year or so ago.

See, you don’t have any proof of that at all. It’s just something you heard somewhere - AFTER the fact, and assumed it to be true. Go ahead - you can admit it.

Posters like you and the rest of the haters are as lazy as the media. You all ought to be ashamed.


23 posted on 09/24/2012 1:44:54 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

24 posted on 09/24/2012 1:59:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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Spend some time reading the actual report Joe...instead of searching around for funny pictures. Does that picture imply that I'm a pedophile enabler?

Listen to what happened to Christine Brennan when she called Joe Paterno that:

Scroll down to the 3rd audio piece

Actually, you seem like you should listen to ALL of Kevin's greatest hits. See, Kevin has no ties to Penn State. Just as John Ziegler has no ties to Penn State. They both just don't like what they've witnessed.

25 posted on 09/24/2012 2:28:29 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa
No...it is YOU who should be ashamed. I mean REALLY ashamed. This monster (Sandusky) repeatedly molested--and in some cases raped--young boys who trusted him. And another monster did nothing, knowing full-well that all was not right with the former defensive end. From the NY Times:

A new, pivotal finding of the investigation overseen by Louis J. Freeh, the former federal judge and director of the F.B.I., was that Mr. Paterno knew as early as 1998 that there were concerns about Mr. Sandusky’s inappropriate behavior with children. It spawned an internal review, which Mr. Freeh said Mr. Paterno followed closely. It was an investigation that Mr. Paterno, through his family after Mr. Sandusky’s arrest, previously maintained he knew nothing about.

I also remember an interview with a hairdresser in State College who said that Sandusky's proclivities were well known in town.

Really...just go away...you are not helping Penn State, JoePa or anyone else with this crapola. You sound like the quibblers back in the '90s excusing Clinton.

26 posted on 09/24/2012 2:44:29 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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27 posted on 09/24/2012 2:45:43 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: FlJoePa
Berkey Creamery, the ice cream store located on the Penn State campus, had a phallic looking ice cream called “Sandusky Blitz.” described on their web site as “banana flavored ice cream with chocolate covered peanuts and caramel swirl". It is no longer on their menu as of the story breaking.
28 posted on 09/24/2012 2:47:31 PM PDT by FoxPro
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So you’re quoting the NYTimes? A first on this forum.

You’re quoting freeh’s “summary”, which is (by his admission) based on “reasonable conclusions”.

The facts are that the “summary” is in no way backed up by the evidence in the report. This is really undeniable, once you read the actual report.

You believe the NYTimes and louis freeh all you want. They both are proven liars. Joe Paterno is not.


29 posted on 09/24/2012 3:10:18 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FoxPro

So everyone at the Creamery was in on this as well, huh? Boy...they sure know how to keep a secret all these years.

Come to think of it, Ben and Jerry got their start with a correspondence course from the PSU Creamery. Maybe they’re in on it as well.


30 posted on 09/24/2012 3:15:07 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

>> they sure know how to keep a secret all these years.

No, that is the point. This wasn’t a secret. They had this different looking ice cream offering named after Sandusky, as it was well known that he was a weirdo. More like an inside joke. Otherwise the ice cream place wouldn’t of had this on their menu.


31 posted on 09/24/2012 3:50:57 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: FoxPro

WTF are you talking about?

From Pennlive.com:

“The Penn State Creamery has removed the “Sandusky Blitz” ice cream flavor, named after former PSU assistant coach Jerry Sandusky, from its shelves and online menu, the Daily Collegian first reported yesterday.

Prior to the flavor’s removal from the creamery website, The Big Lead got a screen grab of the ingredients. Sandusky Blitz was described as a “banana-flavored ice cream with chocolate-covered peanuts and caramel swirl.”

Because they had a flavor of ice cream named after an ex-assistant coach, they’re all just winking and nodding about pedophila?

Are you people for real? Think about what you’re implying here. Seriously. For God’s Sake!


32 posted on 09/24/2012 4:09:41 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

How’s that flame suit fitting??!!!


33 posted on 09/24/2012 4:12:45 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: FlJoePa
I'm feelin’ a little sorry for you. It's not that they purposely put up a perverted joke on the menu. It's that people in the area (why do I think a lot of witty gay guys??) reinterpreted the ice cream to joke about Sandusky’s activity?

You are probably a really nice person but soooooooooooo incredibly naive.

34 posted on 09/24/2012 4:16:50 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

They’re out to get us, even with ice cream.


35 posted on 09/24/2012 4:19:44 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: miss marmelstein

If you think I’m naive, then you’re an idiot. Sorry. And I DON’T feel sorry for you.

Anyone that believes what you just posted is dumber than a bag of hammers.


36 posted on 09/24/2012 4:22:00 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Two scoops (looking like a buttocks) with a cone pressed into it.

I don’t think for a second that the ice cream store thought this was an inside joke. But you can be damned sure that customers saw it.


37 posted on 09/24/2012 4:25:48 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

You’re falling for a joke. Flavors at the Creamery are just that - flavors. In fact, the only person ever to get the opportunity to get two different flavors on one cone is our disgraced ex-president clinton. THIS, I was not happy about. That’s how strict they are about they serve their ice cream.

You are reacting to a picture. The Creamery doesn’t serve ice cream any way but in a bowl or on a cone.

In other words, you are what I said. Why do you people believe everything you read when it comes to Penn State and Joe Paterno?

On another forum, it would make perfect sense. On this one, it makes no sense.


38 posted on 09/24/2012 4:32:12 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Just so I’m clear. That picture has absolutely NOTHING to do with Penn State or the Berkey Creamery.

They serve ice cream in styrofoam bowls and on cones. Period.

THAT picture was a scam that was sent around last winter and passed off as fact.


39 posted on 09/24/2012 4:39:07 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

You are Hopeless. True believers are like that, though. I’m sure you’ll tell Jerry when you visit him in prison that he was railroaded.


40 posted on 09/24/2012 4:50:37 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: Pharmboy

You’re lazy


41 posted on 09/24/2012 4:53:41 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

HAHA...are there any child rapists you support, or is Sandusky and his enablers the only ones?


42 posted on 09/24/2012 4:57:16 PM PDT by Pharmboy (Democrats lie because they must.)
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To: FlJoePa

This ice-cream thing is so funny because everybody is making their own assumptions on how this whole thing transpired.

Was the ice-cream parlor selling a menu item that was called Sandusky that looked like “private parts” before the scandal broke? Then everybody knew.

Did the icecream parlor sell a menu item that did NOT look like private parts, named Sandusky, but was made to look provocative after it was purchased, but before it was consumed. Then that is quite a different story.

At this point, I cant help it. I am off to Baskin Robbins!


43 posted on 09/24/2012 5:16:52 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: FoxPro; All

You think it’s funny. I think it’s sad. This entire scandal has been like a big game of media “telephone”, where stuff just gets repeated as facts until even intelligent people are gobbling it up.

I will say this. There are numerous law suits in the works, and if/when that report (factfreeh) lands in ANY court, it will be torn to pieces like no document you’ve ever seen.

I would assume the first time the document will see court will be if someone can get the ncaa on sanctions/win vacation. Just my opinion

I also believe strongly that ALL charges against Curley and Schultz will be dismissed...but, not until PSU settles with mcqueary, where there will no doubt be a strict confidentiality agreement.

That University is on fire right now between alumni and the b.o.t. and president (who was the one that actually signed off on sandusky’s emeritus status). Football games are a distraction at this point.

Peetz (BNY Mellon), Surma (US Steel) and the corrupt governor Corbett are running this University, and alums are not happy with the way they have handled things. Their own connections to the second mile are what is being covered up here. Not some out of control Football Program.


44 posted on 09/24/2012 5:42:32 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: fatima; xsmommy; Nowhere Man; South Hawthorne; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; ...

PA Ping!

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45 posted on 09/24/2012 5:50:38 PM PDT by randita
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To: randita

I should also add Kenneth Frazier (Merck), another “move along” b.o.t. member to the mix. He had more ties to the second mile than Joe Paterno could have in a hundred lifetimes, but that doesn’t fit the media narrative. The truth will come out.


46 posted on 09/24/2012 6:12:43 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: randita

Thanks for the ping.


47 posted on 09/24/2012 6:22:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (You only establish a feel for the line by having crossed it. - - Freeper One Name)
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To: FlJoePa

Interesting article. It’s s shame that people cannot see the reason through their emotions. It just bugs me that people are out to tar and feather Penn State at the very least. Sandusky had his day in court and the jury has spoken, that is good enough for me.


48 posted on 09/24/2012 10:14:08 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (June 28th, 2012, the Day America Jumped The Shark.)
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To: Pharmboy; FlJoePa

<>This monster (Sandusky) repeatedly molested—and in some cases raped—young boys who trusted him. And another monster did nothing, knowing full-well that all was not right with the former defensive end.<>

Are you referring to Louis Freeh???

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2928292/posts

“A copy of a document sent to me by a source and dated February 28,2000 ( a link is provided at the bottom) and further corroborated by other documentation has revealed that MBNA bank beginning in 2000 and throughout the entire tenure of Louis Freeh as the bank’s vice chairman and general counsel, was a major corporate sponsor of Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile and continued to be throughout Freeh’s tenure at the bank from 2001 to 2006 when MBNA bank was bought by Bank of America for $35 billion. Freeh at the time cashed in $20 million in stock options.”

No wonder Louis Freeh’s hatchetjob led everyone away from the Second Mile and its activity during this time. It would have pointed to him and the man who hired him to do the hatchetjob.


49 posted on 09/25/2012 4:30:44 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: FoxPro
No, that is the point. This wasn’t a secret. They had this different looking ice cream offering named after Sandusky, as it was well known that he was a weirdo. More like an inside joke. Otherwise the ice cream place wouldn’t of had this on their menu.

I always wondered about that. How did the owner know about Sandusky's proclivities???

Was it just rumor or more than that??? If it was more than that, then why didn't the owner of the ice cream parlor go to the police???

Why wasn't he atleast interviewed by Louis Freeh???

50 posted on 09/25/2012 4:37:05 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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