Alternatives to a Bugout Location – What You Should Consider

SHTF Plan ^ | 9/24/12 | Holly Deyo

[Kartographer]

Every person will face an ugly new reality when life as we know it vanishes. It’s coming. Soon. It might be a slow crawl decline or a rapid descent into nightmarish conditions. Various scenarios now flit threateningly across the horizon. If we’re brave enough to peer into the abyss, we can see some of these events bordering on fruition. Most are unnerving; some will be paralyzing. Regardless of the fright factor, we must examine individually how to handle these looming crises. When they strike, people without a plan in place, will die.

So what’s lurking about?

[Kartographer]

'Bama' Loss the up coming election.

'Bama' wins the up coming election.

[Kartographer]

Preppers’ PING!!

For your consideration, discussion and critique.

[Noumenon]

Either way, war is coming.

[papertyger]

Do we really need input from the Art Bell wing of the prepper community?

[Kartographer]

I don’t know, did you want to give some input?

[Indy Pendance]

We’re rural. I’m prepping tomatoes right now. All we need is some more basics, that’s going to happen. We’re ready for the zombies.

[cripplecreek]

I don’t know about war but there will definitely tough times with massive unrest in the cities.

[Sirius Lee]

I’m not bugging out. I’m standing my ground and killing zombies.

[Indy Pendance]

War is coming. We’re heading for WWIII. Us against the mussies.

[cripplecreek]

I’m listening to the last of the lids to pop. 65 quarts this time. I was at it all weekend.

[outofsalt]

“No matter where you go, there you are.”
I live near water. I have some stores and defenses. If I did not have these I would be looking to move already.
Worst case... sail south till the butter gets soft then flip a coin, left or right?

[Indy Pendance]

I’m going to a pick your own place tomorrow. My last cans of tomatoes are ‘beeping’ at me. Tomorrow, I’ll get my last 30 quarts of tomatoes. Life is good.

[cripplecreek]

I’ve got a lot of dry beans with more drying on the vines now. I’m thinking about canning a couple dozen cans of bean soup.

[Dutchboy88]

Seems that Paul simply dealt with the circumstances in which he found himself. Not the same as being stupid, or falling on the sword, but more like keeping this in perspective...the billion year perspective.

[papertyger]

No, I got as far as the solar flares and gave up.

[Indy Pendance]

We’re all doing our part. Good for you. We’re ready for any situation.

[grumpygresh]

Any thoughts on leaving the US in the event of an 0bama win with eventual economic and civil strife?
The article did mention renting an apartment. Perhaps offshore is best.

[cripplecreek]

I do a lot of trading with neighbors. I got the tomatoes by trading some of last year’s dry beans to a farmer who didn’t want the hassle of growing them. I have pickles coming from a neighbor I started plants for in the spring.

[Indy Pendance]

I’m not leaving. We have to fight right here. This is MY country. There’s no place else on earth that I’ll live.

[Noumenon]

The battle lines, if we can call them that, will be everywhere. Right through some peoples’ living rooms. Pretty much like personal accounts of the times leading up to the first American Civil War.

[DYngbld]

I'm with you. The safest place for us is at home. I can defend it, it has water, I don't need power, and I have stores and ammo on hand.

We can withstand most scenarios for thirty days. After that, who knows.

[Shady]

You are correct. Appeasement has created the climate for Jihad and it will happen, the Russians and the whole oppressed world wants it...Millions will die.

[cripplecreek]

Any thoughts on leaving the US in the event of an 0bama win with eventual economic and civil strife?

The coming collapse will be global and I personally think the last thing I would want to be is a foreigner in a strange land. Canada might be OK.

[Indy Pendance]

I’ve divided my oregano 3-4 times, that plant is wild. I dehydrate a ton of herbs. I haven’t had any ‘sharing’ yet, but when neighbors figure out what they have, I’m sure that will happen. I’ll welcome it with open arms.

[Shady]

Amen. We got your back.

[Indy Pendance]

Likewise, we got yours. Those that are prepared seek out like minded folks. We won’t let the zombies control.

[Kartographer]

It surprised me that you even bothered clicked on at all.

[ladyjane]

65 quarts of...?

[papertyger]

It surprised me you would post something from Holly Deyo...

[Kartographer]

This is my home and the home of my fathers. Many in my family have died to give me this home.

"In my bag there’s a bible to show me the way, Through my twelfth year on earth and to Heaven some day. I will shoulder my musket and brandish my sword, In defence of this land and the word of the Lord." From the Song: Bright Sunny South

Choose this day how you will serve; Will you serve unwillingly and at the bidding of others wearing the yoke of socialism or will you hold true to the course of our forefathers’ standing tall and serving freely? As for me I choose to SERVE THE REPUBLIC!

[publius911]

I don’t know, did you want to give some input?

There are predators.
And there are prey.

Never expect input from prey. They are too busy with reality shows, puerile 'comedy' shows, the new series of pervert dramas and the latest iPod discussions.

[cripplecreek]

Tomatoes.

[Travis McGee]

An alternative bugout location.

[cld51860]

“I’m not leaving. We have to fight right here. This is MY country. There’s no place else on earth that I’ll live.”

You got that right.

[papertyger]

I would relish your attempt to take a bite.

Try doing a little research on Holly Deyo and get back to me on your classification strategy.

[Kartographer]

Mack: Shame what this town's come to.
Charley Waite: You could do something about it.
Mack: What? We're freighters. Ralph here's a shopkeeper.
Charley Waite: You're men, ain't you?
Mack: I didn't raise my boys just to see 'em killed.
Charley Waite: Well you may not know this, but there's things that gnaw at a man worse than dying.

I don't seek death, but my children are grown even some of my grandchildren are. Why would I leave them less than what was left to me. Why would I expect to enjoy that which others sacrificed for and yet not be will to pay my own due to protected it even to the last full measure?

[meatloaf]

That’s my plan. It’s going to be AMF and away.

[Kartographer]

There are also the dumb animals that get caught in the stampede and become carrion for the scavengers.

[driftdiver]

I live on the coast and there are dozens of those within 10 miles or so. I figure if worst comes I can always go find one of those. There’ll be plenty of bad guys on the water as well though.

[driftdiver]

IMO the subject is very important even if the author didn’t handle it as well as we wish. Most of us can’t afford the ultimate bug out. It pays to think through the options.

[cripplecreek]

I just think that staying in your individual comfort zone is advantageous off the bat. You don’t have the psychology of being in an unfamiliar place with unfamiliar faces around.

I know a lot of people think about heading south from northern states but the cold has plenty of advantages too. Number 1 is the fact that the urban rats will be the primary group heading south.

[driftdiver]

IMHO it depends on what happens. A complete collapse will mean very few people are moving. Once the highways are blocked in Florida people won’t be moving far or fast through Florida, too much swamp.

[Tuanedge]

Mine is more bachelor apartment. Picked it up cheap last election.

It’s been a cheap place to live through the economic crisis, and it’ll be an escape shuttle if It has to be.

[MrKatykelly]

Am I the only one around here that cans meat ?

[MrKatykelly]

Am I the only one around here that cans meat ?

[MrKatykelly]

Am I the only one around here that cans meat ?

[LurkingSince'98]

That looks great Travis right out of Castigo Bay

Regards
Lurking’

[LurkingSince'98]

That looks great Travis right out of Castigo Bay

Regards
Lurking’

[Ellendra]

I do. Not so much lately because I have a suspicion my canner’s pressure guage is off, but I’ve canned lots of meats in the past.

[SgtHooper]

Bingo. Cannot defend a boat very well.