Posted on 09/25/2012 9:04:13 AM PDT by AAABEST
A 61-year-old man was shot to death by police while his wife was handcuffed in another room during a drug raid on the wrong house.
Police admitted their mistake, saying faulty information from a drug informant contributed to the death of John Adams Wednesday night. They intended to raid the home next door.
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The two officers, 25-year-old Kyle Shedran and 24-year-old Greg Day, were placed on administrative leave with pay.
We did the best surveillance we could do, and a mistake was made, Lebanon Police Chief Billy Weeks said. Its a very severe mistake, a costly mistake. It makes us look at our own policies and procedures to make sure this never occurs again. He said, however, the two policemen were not at fault.
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The killers get a paid vacation while the department and local government shrug. "Oops." Nobody is held accoutable, except of course the taxpayer if there's a settlement.
I'm wondering how many dead dogs and dead loved-ones it's going to take before we begin dealing with the problem.
The cops need to be charged, convicted, and sentenced to death.
This crap needs to stop.
I am not sure it is going to stop. It is a way to scare the populace. Leftist totalitiarians want a fearful populace.
The cops have long lost my benefit of a doubt.
I no longer feel sympathy when a cop is shot, because I’m waiting to hear the rest of the story.
And America can only blame itself for letting the “War on (Some) Drugs” get out of hand. End it.
With pay?
Some punishment for these two idiot donut-munchers.
This is why more and more people are starting to detest these morons known as cops.
No settlement can change the fact that a man is dead and a women is now a widow. Depressing story.
His heirs just won the lottery.
Me two.
Everyone in the ‘Burgh is still weepy over Larry, Curly, and Moe getting it in Stanton Heights two years ago.
I could care less about them. Good riddance. That’s three less idiots my taxes have to pay.
This took place in October of 2000. Not exactly “news”.
There actually was a case in Western Maryland in the late 70s where several cops were killed in a no-knock raid and that really did put a stop to the shit for a long time afterwards, but we need to end the war on drugs and we need to outlaw no-knock raids.
I’m sure they’re elated...
murder an innocent man... get a paid vacation, that will teach them!
*sigh*
***** “This is why more and more people are starting to detest these morons known as cops.” *****
We have our own little pet names for them around here
“Revenue Enhancement Agents” or “Roach Patrol” because after dark they pull over anybody for anything and go fishing for fines. Locals stay home while the tourists foot the bill.
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What is that called when proffessional negligence results in a homicide?
Manslaughter. If this was a typo or clerical error, a clerical person should be charged with manslaughter.
I doubt the police made too much of an effort to identify themselves. Probably two quick knocks and crash the door style of entry.
An innocent man lost his life because police “had the wrong house”.
And, what happens to the “drug informant”? Was he paid for this great tip? Is he still on the payroll? Will he be charged with anything?
Maybe it wasn’t a mistake.
I just glimpsed what’s wrong with this country by chance juxtposition. Having been away from the computer all morning, I refresh FR to see this story about a man murdered by the cops, while simultaneously listening to the opening minutes of Rush chortling like a pig about professional sports.
I saw that at the original ABC story which isn't dated and I can't find any other news showing when this happened. However the ABC account is showing up now in blogs and DU in addition to FR. Something doesn't seem right.
Just a bump in the road. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Government at all levels is dangerous and unaccountable...a deadly mix.
Thomas Jefferson wisely observed, “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
Is it? It showed up on my Facebook page, but now that you mention it, I can't find a date andywhere on the page.
My bad.
All because we don’t think people should be allowed to get high.
Now there is (another) dead man and destroyed family
and people are still getting high anyway.
If people were just allowed to get high them most of those who wanted to would just sit in their homes and get high and play video games and eat cheetos (like they do illegally today).
But instead we militarize our police forces keep insisting that forcing people not get high (which doesn’t work) is worth any cost.
A mistake? They KILL an innocent man, and call it a frickin’ MISTAKE???
Hmmmmm ???
How are the two officers not at fault?
They did it didn’t they? It was wrong wasn’t it?
2+2= Their fault.
Unfortunately it is the taxpayers who have to pay up and the people who did this will never have to... where is the incentive in that?
It’s getting harder and harder to tell the good guys from the bad.
Now seriously, their info came from a drug enforcer? Since I have expert knowledge of police procedures (Law & Order, NCIS & CSI) shouldn't they then have surveyed the home for obvious signs of drug dealing? I mean their CI says these guys are dealing drugs and on THAT basis and only that basis, they raided the wrong house and killed an innocent man.
He said, however, the two policemen were not at fault.
Well then, who the hell is at fault? Those two deserve at least manslaughter charges.
Police admitted their mistake, saying faulty information from a drug informant contributed to the death of John Adams Wednesday night. They intended to raid the home next door.
The whitewash has started, what does anyone want to bet that when the investigation is over (investigated by the police, how convenient) they will say procedure was followed, it was an accident and no one is at fault?
I know what is at fault:
1) Their procedures.
2) Gestapo like policemen.
3) Whoever was running this CI. And, what did the CI get in return, reduced sentence, money, civic duty award?
4) Did they bother to look at the correct house and see if they are indeed dealing drugs?
Back in my day, we all knew the Sheriffs around, they knew us and we got along. They'd see us drinking beer behind the pizza place and not say anything (we were 16, 17, 18 or so). They would occasionally say, is there anything there that shouldn't be in that car? Never any problems, except for the CHP officer.
He got all of us (we deserved it) Like an idiot I wasn't paying attention and made a turn and grabbed three gears and didn't see his enormous CHP car. He did laugh though, he thought it was impressive that I could grab three gears. He did give me the minimum charge which was speeding.
” a mistake was made”
No, SOMEONE made the mistake, it didn’t just happen.
That someone needs to be prosecuted for the death of this man.
The Kathryn Johnston shooting from a few years ago is something to pass along to people who have no idea how corrupt a group of officers can be.
Unfortunately this, and all of Zer0's "bumps in the road", have a headstone at one end.
I had the fat a$$ on too.
He was so upset about football, I expected him to start oinking.
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BS....
double-BS....
triple-BS....
The police agency with controlling jurisdiction-- and its sworn officers are the ones serving the warrant, knocking down the door, holding the gun... and sadly... pulling the trigger.
They have a DUTY to verify their information BEFORE they swear to a judge to obtain a warrant.....
...and they have a DUTY protect the rights off the innocent during any encounter/contact...
(even if they find the guilty b*st*rd)
--BUT-- ESPECIALLY during erroneous accusation/raid/arrest events....
If we ended the War on Some Drugs the price of such drugs would be close to the price of hay; about $5 per bail. This would create the opportunity for drug users to eliminate themselves from the gene pool. I don't see the problem with this.
a fearful populace tends to be a well armed and dangerous populace if pushed - think about it
There needs to be one huge case, giving a huge payment for restitution, then these clowns will find a way to do it right. I am a big fan of tort reform, but there are times when these cases do it right by forcing organizations to make sure they know what they are doing, who they are supposed to be arresting, etc. Don’t they even ask questions when they go into the wrong residence? Is it me, or are we all seeing this happen more and more often? This is scary. It could happen to anyone, anywhere. I’ve seen some cases where the cops were exonerated, but what happens to the family who were wronged? This is so wrong.
a fearful populace tends to be a well armed and dangerous populace if pushed - think about it
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Not if attacked one by one.
We did the best surveillance we could do, and a mistake was made, Lebanon Police Chief Billy Weeks said
Oh, good grief.
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This took place in October of 2000. Not exactly “news”. |
Doesn't matter. Whatever it takes to get the liberals here at FR all fired up and agitated about all cops are JBT's and the need to surrender in the WOD
This trash is run up the flag pole every so often by the “I hate cops” group. You’ll probably get burned now...just watch. 5,4,3,2...
With a name like John Adams , maybe he was shot for being a suspected Tea Party terrorist.
and again, as always, taxpayers get to pay.
Dont blame it all on lefties. There are plenty of those totalitarians on drug threads right on this website.
Why are people blaming the two officers?
They had a warrant with this address on it (the warrant was wrong, but that isn’t their fault, or at least nothing in the story says they were involved with the warrant).
They knocked on the door. The people inside said they heard the knocking, but didn’t listen. The police say they identified themselves and broke in the door. The woman doesn’t say they didn’t.
When they came in, the man shot at them with a shotgun. They returned fire. The woman doesn’t dispute this.
So I don’t see, a priori, why we would blame the two officer, or call them names.
I don’t expect police to go in guns blazing. But I don’t expect police to stand there when they are being shot at.
No dog?
Do those officers have that kind of cash? Oh you mean those taxpayers should pay up? Boy that'll learn'em alright, making others pay for your mistakes/crimes.
I know. It should be sawn off. Standards are falling
This is murder. And burglary, kidnapping, and assault.
This is a story that gets referenced a lot in the "police shootings" blogs, and I guess someone found it and reposted it, and with no date, it can confuse people.
The Attorney General of Tennessee at the time was Tommy Thompson, I assume no relation to the Tommy Thompson running for Senate in Wisconsin. The shooting had a racial component because the victim was black. Maybe the lefties are stupid enough to think they can smear Tommy Thompson as a racist, not realizing it's a 12-year-old story and it's a different Tommy Thompson.
I can't explain why the freeper would post this.
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