Skip to comments.What Are the Real Refs and the NFL Actually Fighting About? Here’s What You Need to Know
Posted on 09/26/2012 5:31:52 AM PDT by mazda77
[snip]Simply put, most of this dispute comes down to the NFLRA opposing the NFLs attempts to make refs contribute to their own pensions.[snip]
[snip]Of course, there are other, less contentious issues being negotiated: the NFLRA wants the NLF to increase the $18.6 million it currently splits among its 121 referees. The NFL will only go as high as $19 million. Also, the NFL wants to hire more refs and make the ones they have full-time employees.
Wait, wait, wait! Professional NFL refs are part-time employees?
Yup. In fact, a lot of them work other jobs in the offseason. This means that along with the $150,000 they make annually for officiating games, most NFL refs also have a second source of income. And thats not all: NFL officials work an average 20-25 hours week (not including travel).
However, its important to note that NFL refs are paid by the game.
If an official misses a few games because of a few bad calls, that can cut into compensation. And the NFLRA, like the Chicago Teachers Union, doesnt want its members compensation subject to performance reviews, Bloomberg Businessweek weeks notes.[snip]
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WTF? They average $153,719 annually for a part-time seasonal job.
Who do they think they are? Members of congress?
Any chance that these temp refs are intentionally blowing key calls? That they’re in cahoots and on the take with the regulars in order to push a settlement.
It is more likely some of them are in cahoots with someone in Las Vegas.
Another gift horse in the mouth moment. Ungreatful pigs, those refs can stay out. Football is better when they are not throwing games to the big boys. These refs today are there cause they want to be not because its a job.
I think there should be no players union either. There should be more of your not performing you are released. I would love tickets to be priced based on the historical performance of the team. The players should get paid per catch tackle or blocked pass.
Merit pay all the way around.
The nooze reported that 300 MILLION dollars changed hands as a result of the Monday night call.
Actually no, that bit is not entirely accurate. Some if not all NFL refs actually work their other job during off days DURING THE SEASON, not just in the off season. Some are high school principles, insurance salesmen and jobs like that. Or at least this was true in the very recent past.
Bad plan. That would make the team get progressively worse because the economics would not allow hiring better players. So essentially, only one team would be left. Some sport that is. Let the ticket prices be exactly what the market will support to fill up a stadium and that would get rid of the blackout rule.
If they can't make it with simple market economics, then get on the Baltimore Colts bus and look for a new town. And for God's sakes, keep the taxpayer out of incentives and payoffs and new fancy stadiums.
I was just showing what the story noted. Yesterday I mentioned from my recollection, that some are engineers and other professional trades and operating their own consulting businesses essentially allowing them to make their own schedule.
I know from experience. I have my own engineering consulting firm and I also operate as a data acquisition analyst for professional racing teams. I could not do the data stuff if I were working for someone else, but since I create my own schedule including weekends and nights, it allows me the fun job of being intimately involved in the racing. Both of which derive revenue.
There used to be vicious complaints about calls the spoiled rotten entitled 121 “regulars” made too. These people deserve to be permanently fired. Everybody in this stinking economy needs to know they can be replaced.
I don't know about the refs but it looks like the owners are prepared to ride this season out as is.
BTW, I did do the data stuff while working for someone else. I had worked at that place long enough to receive 4 weeks of vacation per year. I took all of my vacation days one or two at a time to do the racing stuff and hone my skills enough on both ends to go on my own.
On Fox & Friends this morning, it was stated that they wanted to keep their pension plan, and not change to a 401K plan....if that is true....
In all honesty- I don’t blame them....I would have more faith in my future retirement checks coming from the NFL instead of depending on those checks depending upon the future of our stock market.....
I fear our 401K will be devastated by the way the FED and our gov’t are handling the dollar.......
these refs are NOT gov’t employees....they are not paid with money forcefully taken from my paycheck or at a register when I make a purchase......
As I understand it, they didn't go on strike, they were locked out.
I have no problem with the league firing the whole bunch but I didn't realize until this article how low they had gone to get replacements.
I dont have a problem with the “bad call” from that game
When thjey hit the ground both players had their hands on the ball- a SIMULTANEOUS CATCH
In a simultaneous catch it goes to the offense
Yes, this was right on the edge of being a simultaneous catch-but the defense did not clearly have sole possesion
So, it was a correct call
The defense should be more away and have batted it out of bounds
As for missing the pass interferance on the same play - in a “Hail Mary” pass there is a LOT going on, that just happens
Hey, this season buying your team colors will be a snap! Just order black and white! Nobody else is playing any reindeer games!
All fans of real football should just start buying and wearing black and white!!!!!
Entitlement is entitlement, whether it is by way of government or by the free market. I am entitled to nothing from anybody and it is high time that people begin to realize that in their own regard. I say fire them and let the replacements hone their skills to a new level while accepting whatever it is the NFL feels it is in their resources to offer.
With that said, the NFL also has to play under as do the networks and down to the advertisers considering the same free market rules. Sure the NFL thinks it has a monopoly on professional football but they can screw the pooch just as anyone and soon be playing second fiddle to the SEC if they disregard the end game, the customer.