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Intel CEO thinks Windows 8 isn't ready, insider claims
The Register ^ | 25th September 2012 22:55 GMT | Neil McAllister in San Francisco

Posted on 09/26/2012 7:19:39 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

To hear Microsoft tell it, work on Windows 8 wrapped in August and the final version of the new OS is already shipping to PC makers. But according to a source close to Intel, Redmond's closest hardware partner thinks the current Windows 8 code is still only half-baked.

At a recent company meeting in Taipei, Taiwan, Intel CEO Paul Otellini told staffers that Windows 8 is being released before it's fully ready, Bloomberg reports, citing an unnamed source who attended the event.

But although Otellini thinks the Windows 8 code needs improvement, the source claims, he still believes that releasing it before the 2012 holiday season is the right move and that any needed fixes can be made post-launch.

Microsoft has said Windows 8 will hit retail stores on October 26, the same day that it plans to release its Surface tablets running Windows RT, the ARM-based version of the OS. Neither announcement has been met with particular enthusiasm by analysts and industry bigwigs, however, several of whom have voiced doubts similar to Otellini's.

In July, Gartner research director Gunnar Berger said that the Windows 8 user experience on PCs without touchscreens was "bad," and that when the analyst firm asked its clients whether they were evaluating the new OS, "most laughed."

That same month, gaming mogul Gabe Newell told conference attendees in Seattle that he expected Windows 8 to be "a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space," and that top-tier PC makers would be forced to exit the market when consumers stopped buying their goods.

While Newell's view may be a bit extreme, Otellini's remarks will surely stoke the fires of those critics who are already comparing Windows 8 to the much-maligned (and commercially disastrous) Windows Vista.

For its part, Microsoft denied that there's anything wrong with Windows 8. "With over 16 million active preview participants, Windows 8 is the most tested, reviewed and ready operating system in Microsoft’s history," the company said in a statement.

But although "active preview participants" has a nice ring to it, we here at El Reg's West Coast aerie might suggest another term, based on Otellini's reported comments: how does "guinea pigs" sound? ®


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: windows8

1 posted on 09/26/2012 7:19:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Having used Win8 Preview for the past couple of weeks, I think that Paul Ortinelli is understating the case, in a very, very big way. I doubt that MSFT’s Ballmer could buy a clue.

It’s like MSFT is bound and determined to commit suicide in a very public method. To say that Win8 isn’t ready for release is like saying my 2 yr old grandson is a classical Shakespearian Actor ready for his broadway performance.

It’s horrible ... it’s beyond horrible. Forget everything you’ve learned since Windows 3.1, WinME, Win2K, WinXP, Vista or Win7 - as it’s all pretty much useless now. Re-train your IT department and everyone in your company. Even turning the stupid PC off is now more convoluted than you would believe.

Apple couldn’t possibly buy an advertizing campaign as successful as Win8. Win8 is MSFT’s own worst enemy.


2 posted on 09/26/2012 7:24:51 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ...

3 posted on 09/26/2012 7:26:44 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

> ... Windows 8 to the much-maligned (and commercially disastrous) Windows Vista.

I must admit I hated Vista and went to Windows 7, but my machines now all run with Vista. Windows 7 is fine for the Starbucks crowd, but Vista grows on you after a while and is really good at handling very large files and multiple virtual machines.


4 posted on 09/26/2012 7:29:39 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama loved the poor so much, he created millions more.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I am waiting for the redneck version. Photobucket
5 posted on 09/26/2012 7:32:42 AM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: Hodar

Too bad apple is not enterprise ready, but I’ve seen lots of small organizations in the planning stages to jump to apple. I’ve not dug into windows8/server 2012 very deep yet, but so far, once you get past the gui, the underlying stuff appears to work about the same to me, but I admit I’ve barely scratched the surface.


6 posted on 09/26/2012 7:33:07 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Hodar

I’ve played with it and do not like it. I’ll stick with Win 7 and Mac’s.


7 posted on 09/26/2012 7:35:32 AM PDT by tje
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Microsoft is trying to push two stupid ideas: putting a touch-tablet interface on a desktop screen and funneling users into a walled-garden software market.

Windows 8 is going to be a fiasco that will make Vista look like the greatest marketing triumph since the Model T.

8 posted on 09/26/2012 7:38:19 AM PDT by stable
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To: Hodar

I thought you could turn off that hideous Metro interface and go back to a normal Windows screen?


9 posted on 09/26/2012 7:39:23 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

Not exactly from what I can see. You can sorta jump back and forth but I think there is stuff on the metro you can’t get to on the windows screen.


10 posted on 09/26/2012 7:41:15 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DonaldC

Well, that kills it for me.

I’ll eventually have to evaluate it when the ‘brains’ in IT upper management want us to upgrade our desktop O/S for no reason.

I love Windows 7.


11 posted on 09/26/2012 7:44:16 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Hodar
To say that Win8 isn’t ready for release is like saying my 2 yr old grandson is a classical Shakespearian Actor ready for his broadway performance.

Do you want to reword that?
12 posted on 09/26/2012 7:44:16 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I have a new zest for life!"--Calvin from Las Vegas)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"he still believes that releasing it before the 2012 holiday season is the right move and that any needed fixes can be made post-launch."

Yeah.. that sounds like Microsoft

13 posted on 09/26/2012 7:49:39 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The only thing the World would hate more than the USA in charge is the USA NOT in charge")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Is intel still upset that it is not written exclusivly optimized for intel? Is intel upset that new chip architetures will work with win8 and will mean more competition for intel?


14 posted on 09/26/2012 7:50:53 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Brother. The usual cabal, spouting the usual.

There are 2 things you can count on with media reporting:

Republicans always lose.

Microsoft is terrible.

That is until the GOP wins and MS sells a ton of OSs.


15 posted on 09/26/2012 7:58:12 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Lx
I thought you could turn off that hideous Metro interface and go back to a normal Windows screen?

Nope, explictly forbidden by MSFT. It's Metro .. .get used to it, or go somewhere else.

Personally, I'm dropping $519 for a refurb Mac-Mini and going to try that. On the plus side, I can load Bootcamp or Parallels and run BOTH WinXP and OSX at the same time.

16 posted on 09/26/2012 8:10:48 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
But although Otellini thinks the Windows 8 code needs improvement, the source claims, he still believes that releasing it before the 2012 holiday season is the right move and that any needed fixes can be made post-launch.

Nice to know some things never change.

17 posted on 09/26/2012 8:16:44 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Lx
I thought you could turn off that hideous Metro interface and go back to a normal Windows screen?

I believe you had the ability to do that in the older RC versions (Release Candidate) but I think MS did away with the option.
18 posted on 09/26/2012 8:17:50 AM PDT by Mr Fuji
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To: BuffaloJack
I must admit I hated Vista and went to Windows 7, but my machines now all run with Vista. Windows 7 is fine for the Starbucks crowd, but Vista grows on you after a while and is really good at handling very large files and multiple virtual machines.

ORLY? I believe you are the first person I've ever known to like Vista more than Win 7.

I love Win 7, and don't plan on changing for a very long time.

Win 8 = Windows me Tablet Edition?

19 posted on 09/26/2012 8:19:08 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: TChris

Been using Win 8 in various forms - developer’s release, consumer preview and now the RTM (release to market) code. My laptop has a touchscreen and I love the OS. Tablet(iPad) like is you want but full featured widowns if youneed it. Best of both worlds.


20 posted on 09/26/2012 8:41:37 AM PDT by PaForBush
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To: Lx
I’ll eventually have to evaluate it when the ‘brains’ in IT upper management want us to upgrade our desktop O/S for no reason.

There's a reason...job security and the need to be perceived as needed.

21 posted on 09/26/2012 8:44:44 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: DouglasKC

Sad, but true.

They don’t even try to hide it anymore. I have to fight management’s incompetence and IT staff who want the latest hardware or toys.


22 posted on 09/26/2012 8:52:33 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I guess we’ll see. I’m a big believer that for all OS’es there’s how something looks when you play with it out of the box for a few minutes (can you say Linux LiveCD’s here) versus how something works when used all day every day.

I kinda doubt that Otellini has done the latter - I highly suspect that he’s either done the former or has had his underlings report back to them their experiences.

Either way the proof of the pudding will be in the true eating of it.

I tend to think that we’re looking at the next Windows ME but like I said, we’ll have to see when it actually ships and when real people actually try to use it to do real tasks.


23 posted on 09/26/2012 9:00:33 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Hodar

The even numbered OSes by Micro-squash are bad but the odd ones usually turn out pretty decent and I don’t know why.


24 posted on 09/26/2012 9:11:22 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: stable

Windows 8 is going to be a fiasco that will make Vista look like the greatest marketing triumph since the Model T. . .
_________________________________________________________

I don’t know what everybody is talking about. 8 works just like 7 if you want it to with extra features. The tablet style is only if you want your desktop to be exactly like your tablet. I think it’s great!


25 posted on 09/26/2012 9:22:00 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Hodar
On the plus side, I can load Bootcamp or Parallels and run BOTH WinXP and OSX at the same time.

That's what I did about three years ago. It took me about six months to phase out of using Windows, now I can't imagine going back. The only Windows product I really miss is Microsoft Access.

26 posted on 09/26/2012 9:27:18 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Hodar
On the plus side, I can load Bootcamp or Parallels and run BOTH WinXP and OSX at the same time.

That's what I did about three years ago. It took me about six months to phase out of using Windows, now I can't imagine going back. The only Windows product I really miss is Microsoft Access.

27 posted on 09/26/2012 9:27:28 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Hodar
On the plus side, I can load Bootcamp or Parallels and run BOTH WinXP and OSX at the same time.

That's what I did about three years ago. It took me about six months to phase out of using Windows, now I can't imagine going back. The only Windows product I really miss is Microsoft Access.

28 posted on 09/26/2012 9:27:29 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: PaForBush
Been using Win 8 in various forms - developer’s release, consumer preview and now the RTM (release to market) code. My laptop has a touchscreen and I love the OS. Tablet(iPad) like is you want but full featured widowns if you need it. Best of both worlds.

So the desktop and non-touch-screen laptop users of the world can just bite it, apparently. Thanks, M$.

What a way to run a railroad!
-Bugs Bunny

29 posted on 09/26/2012 9:28:25 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Windows 8 is the most tested, reviewed “

Yep, that’s true, and millions of serious users and reviewers said this thing is a piece of shite, myself included. W8 will make Vista look like a stroke of genius. There’s simply no way in hell that business, government, and power users can work productively with no Start Menu and a primary interface designed exclusively to work with credit-card sized touch screens.

Personally, I’ll be shorting MS stock come October 26, probably via some LEAP Puts.


30 posted on 09/26/2012 11:46:55 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Lx

“I thought you could turn off that hideous Metro interface and go back to a normal Windows screen?”

So far, I’m not sure anyone has figured out a reliable way to do that. I worked for weeks with Consumer Preview to find a registry hack that kinda, sorta bypassed Metro UI most of the time. And even when that DOES work, you still have to install a third party program like “Classic Shell” to get back a Start Menu. Plus there’s a few other reg hacks needed to take some of the nastiness out of Metro UI, like the stupid curtain.


31 posted on 09/26/2012 11:51:20 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Lx

“I thought you could turn off that hideous Metro interface and go back to a normal Windows screen?”

Actually, it looks like the latest version of “Classic Shell” bypasses Metro UI AND adds back the Start Menu. This is a great product (it’s free) that I’ve used for years, including slightly older versions on W8 Consumer Preview.


32 posted on 09/26/2012 12:27:07 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
The only Windows product I really miss is Microsoft Access.

Microsoft Abcess? (shudders)

Cheers!

33 posted on 09/26/2012 8:59:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: VanDeKoik
> Brother. The usual cabal, spouting the usual. There are 2 things you can count on with media reporting: Republicans always lose. Microsoft is terrible. That is until the GOP wins and MS sells a ton of OSs.

Well, to be fair, you provide much the same nay-saying service on the Apple threads... :)

Windows 8 should do well on handhelds. An awful lot of people like the big solid-color tiles better than little detailed icons. As my eyes get older and tireder, I tend to agree.

A few days ago I recommended that a family member not get an iPad or Android tablet now, but rather wait until Surface comes out next month, and evaluate it then.

I really think Win8 will do well on handhelds.

Of course it will be forced onto a lot of new desktops and laptops by the vendor contracts. There will be pushback.

I expect Win8 to lay on the doorstep of the business community like a big ol' turd in a brown paper bag. And those new desktops and laptops will soon sprout a "downgrade" option, like the one from Vista to XP a few years back.

Metro will fail in the non-touch world like nothing we've ever seen. People will stick with Win7 for another 4 years, minimum. It's a terrific OS.

I expect the handhelds will make Win8 a success. But not a universal one. Microsoft will still have two OSes to contend with.

34 posted on 09/26/2012 10:25:01 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: grey_whiskers

Mostly because there isn’t an OS/X equivalent that I like. :)


35 posted on 09/27/2012 7:44:25 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

If you want an easy-to-use, workgroup-level relational database, try Filemaker Pro.


36 posted on 09/27/2012 3:12:27 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m on my last two computers running Microsoft.

Seriously, how many new OS can they keep coming out with every two years or so?

Every change requires having to relearn where settings are, etc. I’m tired of it.


37 posted on 09/27/2012 3:17:13 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: stable

When my last machine crashed I couldn’t get one with XP and it came with Vista.

It sucks. But I’m not too savvy so I even had ME for a while.

This is why I haven’t bought 7...and now they are talking 8? I’m done with MSFT.


38 posted on 09/27/2012 3:19:56 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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