George Zimmerman judge schedules hearing on Trayvon's school records

The Orlando Sentinel ^ | September 25, 2012 | Rene Stutzman

[Uncle Chip]

A Sanford judge has set an Oct. 19 hearing so that George Zimmerman's lawyer and prosecutors can argue over what to do about Trayvon Martin's school records.

Trayvon is the unarmed black 17-year-old whom Zimmerman fatally shot Feb. 26 in Sanford.

Earlier this month defense attorney Mark O'Mara issued subpoenas for the school records, making clear that he wants to look at Trayvon's disciplinary records, attendance, test scores and other information.

Assistant State Attorney Bernie de la Rionda accused O'Mara of trying to start a media feeding frenzy – he used the phrase "chum the waters" – with that request.

Trayvon's school records have become a contentious issue because police reported that he was in Sanford the night he was shot – and not in high school in Miami-Dade – because he'd been suspended for 10 days after officials found him with an empty marijuana baggie.

Prosecutors have charged Zimmerman with second-degree murder. He says he acted in self-defense after Trayvon attacked him.

De la Rionda does not oppose the subpoena for Trayvon's school records, he wrote in court paperwork filed, but he doesn't want the information made public.

He asked Circuit Judge Debra S. Nelson to seal whatever they reveal.

De la Rionda also asked the judge to make O'Mara file all future subpoenas under seal, to review each one in secret and decide whether it should be issued and then to evaluate in secret the information it produces and decide whether that information should be kept from the public.

[Uncle Chip]

Oh come on. You are seriously parsing for effect. Unarmed is a perfectly useful word that means not carrying a weapon.

The OS has more evidence that he was the "assailant" that night than they do that he was "unarmed". He may have used the can of juice or cell phone as weapons -- if so, was he really "unarmed" then???

However if the OS is going to say that he was "unarmed", then include the fact that he was also the "assailant" -- the "unarmed assailant".

Is there something wrong with that??? Ohh yeh -- it doesn't fit the biased narrative.

[Uncle Chip]

And there is this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2934768/posts?page=1

http://www.change.org/petitions/houston-police-department-and-the-texas-state-attorney-s-office-immediately-arrest-crystal-scott-with-murder-in-the-death-of-jonathan-ables

[the_devils_advocate_666]

Even quadriplegics can potentially bite.

"Oh, oh, I see, running away then. You yellow bastards! Come back here and take what's coming to you. I'll bite your legs off!"

[Beach_Babe]

Hopefully, the court will also address the release of Geroge’s medical records. I believe the State is looking for results of tests performed on George (X-ray, CT scan, MRI, etc.) as well as notes and/or photos. I think they're also looking for any medical records for treatment prior to the shooting.

The State requested the medical records in August but the defense has refused to release them. What are they hiding?

In an interview with Serino Zimmerman stated that he had been diagnosed with PTSD. Usually with PTSD, symptoms have to persist and be unresponsive to treatment for at least three months. Was Zimmerman talking about a prior diagnosis?

Zimmerman had only been taking Adderall for a few weeks. It was a replacement for another physcotropic that was causing him to have mood swings. Adderall has some nasty side effects. Was he having any problems with his new medication?

Osterman has stated that Zimmerman suffered a concussion. Is there any documentation to verify that claim?

Just this week Robert Zimmerman Jr. said that George's ears were bleeding for a day after the alleged attack. Isn't it strange that he ignored this PA's advise to consult with an ENT?

I look forward to medical professionals taking the stand and explaining how injuries from having his head bashed repeatedly on the sidewalk appeared on the parietal portion but not on the occipital area of Zimmerman's skull.

[Uncle Chip]

<>The State requested the medical records in August but the defense has refused to release them.<>

Isn’t that funny because the State wasn’t interested in the medical records of his injury back in April. And now they are so interested since all of the evidence has turned against them.

Is an assault victim with PTSD and/or on Adderal not permitted to defend his life when a thug is sitting on top of him banging his head into the sidewalk???

The State’s request is just another of their rabbit trails to distract people from this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2936473/posts?page=9#9

The State should not be requesting more stuff but should be releasing that exculpatory evidence in its possession — like the cell phone ping logs for Trayvon’s and DeeDee’s cell phones which should prove definitively that DeeDee and Trayvon actually were talking. Those should have been made public by now. What’s the matter???? And where’s that tox report???

BTW would you like to sign a petition:

http://www.change.org/petitions/houston-police-department-and-the-texas-state-attorney-s-office-immediately-arrest-crystal-scott-with-murder-in-the-death-of-jonathan-ables

Can we expect marches in Houston soon and your same diligence on behalf this shooting victim???

[Beach_Babe]

Sorry, I don't do online petitions . . . but here's one for you since you seem to be into that type of thing.

Do you think Zimmerman will testify?

[Uncle Chip]

Do you think Zimmerman will testify?

Why should he??? The forensic evidence speaks for him.

To wit, the following facts are derived using only the State’s discovery evidence, including police reports, eye-witness statements, and “ear” witness statements:

FACT: Zimmerman had a legal right to be inside and outside his vehicle, at all times on the night in question

FACT: Zimmerman attempting to follow Martin is likewise not inherently illegal. (Further, doing so does not legally constitute “stalking”, under any circumstance)

FACT: Martin attempted to elude Zimmerman before Zimmerman ever got out of his vehicle

FACT: Martin successfully eluded Zimmerman

FACT: After successfully eluding Zimmerman, Martin reached the vicinity of Brandi Green’s home

FACT: Martin refused to continue running, and refused to go inside Brandi Green’s home. (These facts clearly imply a lack of fear on Martin’s part.)

FACT: Martin verbally accosted Zimmerman, not the other way around

FACT: Martin broke Zimmerman’s nose

FACT: Martin was on top of Zimmerman, beating Zimmerman

FACT: Zimmerman made attempts to escape, but was prevented from doing so by Martin

FACT: Zimmerman’s head/face was 45% covered in his own blood

FACT: Zimmerman had lacerations on the back of his head

FACT: Zimmerman had swelling of the head, bruising, and black eyes

FACT: No witness ever saw Zimmerman on top of Martin during the physical altercation

FACT: Martin’s only injuries were to his knuckles, and the gunshot wound to his chest

FACT: Absent contradictory evidence, the above facts clearly exonerate Zimmerman. He has an open-and-shut claim of justified use of lethal force in self-defense, both to end the commission of a felony aggravated battery, and due to reasonable fear of imminent risk to life or bodily injury.

Side Note #1: None of the above facts rely on Zimmerman’s testimony

Side Note #2: The self-defense claim supported by these facts does not rely on the Stand-Your-Ground statute

Now, my question:

What evidence does the State have, that would refute any of the above facts, or that would otherwise sway the preponderance of evidence away from Zimmerman’s self-defense claim, and toward the State’s allegation of second-degree murder?

[Thanks to Chip Bennett of the Conservative Treehouse September 26, 2012 at 10:29 am]

[tomkat]

De la Rionda also asked the judge to make O'Mara file all future subpoenas under seal, to review each one in secret ..

Star Chamber much, ya fascist puke ? !

Folks, nothing about this just.us system is your friend .. it only wants feeding, and it only wants white meat, and you are just a snack.

If you can't get a good lawyer, get a good head start . . .

[Uncle Chip]

If that’s your style, this one is better:

http://www.change.org/petitions/change-org-stop-eric-jordan-garrett

[Beach_Babe]

Sorry, but the treehouse "facts" are mere speculation and/or wishful thinking.

BTW, why do they have a picture of Geroge's nephew on their site?

What evidence does the State have . . .

A picture is worth a thousand words: click here

[Uncle Chip]

What evidence does the State have . . .

nothing

A picture is worth a thousand words: click here

still waiting for that picture ...

[JoeProBono]

Me too

[Uncle Chip]

Me too

That's a first for you.

[JoeProBono]

[Uncle Chip]

Now that’s a picture worth a thousand words.

[Uncle Chip]

De la Rionda also asked the judge to make O'Mara file all future subpoenas under seal, to review each one in secret and decide whether it should be issued and then to evaluate in secret the information it produces and decide whether that information should be kept from the public.

You're right. This is what's at stake in today's hearing.

It is an outrageous motion by the State designed to circumvent Florida Law, and keep the public in the dark. It wants to conduct its kangaroo prosecution in secret -- except when it wants to accidentally release information it has on purpose.

Just what secrets does the prosecution not want the public to know that it already knows or that is about to come out???

[Beach_Babe]

The next hearing is October 19th, not today. Try to keep up.

As I said before, I hope they'll address of Zimmerman's medical records which the defense doesn't want released.

No one is interested in Zimmerman's tonsil stones, his bad breath, his heartburn, his acid reflux or his irritable bowels. But it's now being claimed that:

• Zimmerman had a concussion

• Zimmerman bled from both of his ears for an entire day

• Zimmerman was immediately diagnosed with PTSD (a medical miracle!)

Are these claims true or are they more lies?

[Uncle Chip]

None of those are relevant to the issue at hand. They would all be the result of the assault of Zimmerman by Martin that has been documented by all the other evidence none of which can be contravened.

[Beach_Babe]

All of those are very relevant.

They might have wrestled around a bit but I don’t think Trayvon punched or in any other way ‘assaulted’ Zimmerman.

I believe that clumsy, uncoordinated Zimmerman tripped and caused his own injuries in his rush to detain the ‘suspect’.

Trayvon only injury (besides the fatal gunshot wound) was a scrape to the knuckle of his left ring finger. He had none of Zimmerman’s saliva, DNA, or blood on him . . . expect for a spot or two of Zimmerman’s DNA on his undershirt. Zimmerman probably transferred that when he was attempting to frisk Trayvon.

[Uncle Chip]

They might have wrestled around a bit but I don’t think Trayvon punched or in any other way ‘assaulted’ Zimmerman.

So then sitting on him to keep him from getting up while holding your hand over his mouth to keep him from calling out for help is what??? some new kind of wrestling hold??? or attempted rape???

I believe that clumsy, uncoordinated Zimmerman tripped and caused his own injuries in his rush to detain the ‘suspect’.

Explain how in the first place the "clumsy, uncoordinated Zimmerman" could catch up to the younger leaner swifter stronger teenager who had already fled the scene -- much less try to detain him.

Trayvon only injury (besides the fatal gunshot wound) was a scrape to the knuckle of his left ring finger.

from the sidewalk as he was banging Zimmerman's head on it.

He had none of Zimmerman’s saliva, DNA, or blood on him.

Martin was on top of him and it was raining. All blood and saliva would drain downward to the wet ground not upward to the raining sky.

..expect for a spot or two of Zimmerman’s DNA on his undershirt. Zimmerman probably transferred that when he was attempting to frisk Trayvon.

after he shot him and just as the police were arriving on the scene as he said in his deposition and the police said in their reports.

As you can see the State has no case and should be investigating the Trayvon Trashcan Tour for fraud and the Crumpmeister and company for obstruction of justice and subourning perjury.