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'Britishisms' Creeping into American English
LiveScience ^ | September 26, 2012 | Natalie Wolchover

Posted on 09/28/2012 9:03:01 AM PDT by C19fan

British people have long bemoaned the gradual encroachment of Americanisms into everyday speech, via Hollywood films and sitcoms. Now, "Britishisms" are crossing the pond the other way, thanks to the growing online popularity of British media such as Harry Potter, Downton Abbey and The Daily Mail. For example, BBC News reports that "ginger" as a descriptor of a red-haired, freckly person has shot up in usage in the United States since 1998. That's the year the first Harry Potter book, with its Weasley family of gingers, hit store shelves. The trend shows up in Google ngram searches, which track the frequency of words and phrases appearing in print.

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WAGs (wives and girlfriends of athletes) is now big in the US.
1 posted on 09/28/2012 9:03:08 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

Ugh. Sorry, but the English language has been brutalized... by the English themselves. I also never got why redheads are called “gingers”. Has anyone in the UK ever actually seen ginger? It’s a creamy brown color.


2 posted on 09/28/2012 9:07:34 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: C19fan

BBC News reports that “ginger” as a descriptor of a red-haired, freckly person

-— South Park

WAG? Never heard of it


3 posted on 09/28/2012 9:12:10 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: C19fan

Jolly good show, old man!


4 posted on 09/28/2012 9:13:36 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to make Obama a minor footnote in the pages of history)
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To: C19fan

I use the derogatory chav to describe “White wannabe rapper type” and scallie to describe “White drug-taking thug”

Those British words rock.


5 posted on 09/28/2012 9:14:57 AM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: C19fan

GINGERS!

I have to red headed kids and they are now known as “Gingy” and “The Ginga Ninja!” by their friends.


6 posted on 09/28/2012 9:15:15 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: C19fan

One that irritates me is when an American TV announcer of a soccer game calls a 1-0 score “one-nil”. There’s nothing backward about using the American “one-to-nothing” when speaking to an American audience.


7 posted on 09/28/2012 9:16:06 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: C19fan

It seems like I hear a lot more Posh British accents on Big Media lately. Just my impression backed up by nothing.


8 posted on 09/28/2012 9:16:12 AM PDT by DManA
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To: C19fan

Lingusts are predicting that the future of English is going to be determined in India, due to the sheer number of speakers.

So someday we will all be doing the needful.


9 posted on 09/28/2012 9:17:36 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
So someday we will all be doing the needful.

I hate that term.

10 posted on 09/28/2012 9:26:47 AM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: Viennacon

Ginger on Gilligan’s Island was a red head.


11 posted on 09/28/2012 9:31:48 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: GeronL

So-called “gingers” (red-headed people) are mocked and bullied in England. I don’t know why. That’s why I’m dead set against this “ginger” thing slipping into American English.


12 posted on 09/28/2012 9:33:54 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Hello, my name is Kevin. How may I helping you?


13 posted on 09/28/2012 9:34:14 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to make Obama a minor footnote in the pages of history)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I suppose it will be alright as long as our heads don’t have to wobble as we speak and warehouses don’t suddenly become go downs. Compared with some of the slang in Australia Indian English is not that bad.


14 posted on 09/28/2012 9:34:36 AM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: miss marmelstein
Good reason, this is the only Ginger we need...


15 posted on 09/28/2012 9:37:30 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: C19fan

Those terrorized by so-called spelling and grammar Nazis are among the enablers who are helping to compromise correct English usage and, thereby, American culture. There used to be standards of things that constituted American culture, and one of them was good English usage. Now, acceptable American cultural standards depend on the correct spelling of “doh” and “ni-i-ce.”


16 posted on 09/28/2012 9:39:21 AM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: GeronL

For a very short while, she lived in my mid-town NYC area. I would see her buying cosmetics in my local Love drugstore!


17 posted on 09/28/2012 9:41:38 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: C19fan

I’ve been using Brit idioms since the days of Monty Python!

“NO POOFTERS!”


18 posted on 09/28/2012 9:42:01 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: C19fan

Too many of us watching BBC America. The programming is so much better than the domestic networks.


19 posted on 09/28/2012 9:44:30 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: C19fan

Standing “online” is one . I guess with smartphones you can go online while standing inline.


20 posted on 09/28/2012 9:46:56 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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To: reg45

Have you seen the UK version of “Law & Order?”..sometimes I wish they had subtitles..


21 posted on 09/28/2012 9:47:10 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: miss marmelstein
Guys will enjoy telling their dates that they'll."...come round and knock you up in the morning.."
22 posted on 09/28/2012 9:48:48 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050

And don’t tell an English hairdresser that you’d like your “bangs” trimmed. I learned that one the hard way.


23 posted on 09/28/2012 9:51:10 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: DManA
It seems like I hear a lot more Posh British accents on Big Media lately

You may be right. A large population of insecure Americans automatically think someone with a British accent is speaking with authority or superior wit. I can only speculate why this should be, but I've seen it, and so too the media moguls must know all about it.

24 posted on 09/28/2012 9:51:51 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: C19fan

So this is why Hannity has recently started to adopt a pseudo-British accent at times.


25 posted on 09/28/2012 9:57:39 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

One of the oddest Britishisms I’ve heard is “moggie”, which means cat.


26 posted on 09/28/2012 9:59:24 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: C19fan

My nephew is a “ginger” stationed in Afghanistan. His buddies are now calling him Prince Harry. LOL. Oh, and my fave Englishism is “wanker!”


27 posted on 09/28/2012 10:17:43 AM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
The last few years, more newscasters seem to use "went missing" instead of "is missing".

Of course, being a grammar nazi, I'm old enough to remember when it was good enough to say that something would affect you, not IMPACT you
28 posted on 09/28/2012 10:24:51 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Old Sarge

“Poofter” is as ‘stralian as lamb chops on the barbie and a cold tin straight from the esky.


29 posted on 09/28/2012 10:27:56 AM PDT by hawkboy
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To: ken5050

No! But I try to watch every episode of “Top Gear”.


30 posted on 09/28/2012 10:35:46 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: ken5050

No! But I try to watch every episode of “Top Gear”.


31 posted on 09/28/2012 10:35:46 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class!)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I was raised pretty much by my Scottish granny, now I am a terrible speller, eg. is it grey or gray. ive also used colloquilisms such as “no worries” and “grab a pint” before they were cool. It does worry my mates when i am a bit in the cups, when I say something like “och, Ah dinnae ken!”


32 posted on 09/28/2012 10:35:51 AM PDT by Docbarleypop
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To: C19fan

Ah the age old question.....Ginger or Maryann........


33 posted on 09/28/2012 10:36:54 AM PDT by onona (This space for rent....cheep)
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To: C19fan

At the end of the day.... it’s all English


34 posted on 09/28/2012 10:41:20 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

I didn’t know they stood online. I thought they stood in queues.


35 posted on 09/28/2012 11:08:13 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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Of course, being a grammar nazi, I'm old enough to remember when it was good enough to say that something would affect you, not IMPACT you

A classic example of verbing a noun.

36 posted on 09/28/2012 11:10:18 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: C19fan

You don’t have to tell me about Britishisms. I married a woman who grew up in England. Silverware is cutlery, milk containers are jugs, objects are “thingies”, tomatoes are pronounced with the short a, and a number more I’ve grown used to unconsciously.


37 posted on 09/28/2012 11:14:12 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: C19fan

“She fell pregnant”


38 posted on 09/28/2012 11:14:16 AM PDT by procrustes (You make Free Republic look bad!)
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To: miss marmelstein
So-called “gingers” (red-headed people) are mocked and bullied in England. I don’t know why.

Probably because they're presumed to be Irish. That hate-hate relationship goes back 800 years.


39 posted on 09/28/2012 11:15:29 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Docbarleypop

My Scottish colleague told me of an episode of an afternoon ladies’ variety show he saw on the Beeb.

Now, to understand this gaffe, you have to know that a certain Britishism means something slightly geographically different than the American equivalent.

Anyway, Nigel and Fanny were the hosts of the show. For their last segment, a doughnut chef came on and showed them how to make doughnuts in the deep fryer. Fanny had the knack of making them perfect; Nigel, not so much.

Nigel had the honors of closing the show when time was up, so he did so thus:

“Well folks, that’s all the time we have for today. Here’s wishing you a happy tomorrow....and may all your doughnuts come out looking like Fannie’s.”


40 posted on 09/28/2012 11:16:05 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: C19fan

Many of our American university students are now generally lacking in good English skills and have developed superficial and childish perceptions of class (as in status and style).


41 posted on 09/28/2012 11:17:06 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Lingusts are predicting that the future of English is going to be determined in India, due to the sheer number of speakers.

Oh my, this gives me cent-per-cent loose motion.

42 posted on 09/28/2012 11:18:33 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The American news media, the 'Pravda Press', is fully Soviet-ized.)
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To: ken5050
Have you seen the UK version of “Law & Order?”

It's just like Law & Order here, with the doink-doink sound and the shaky cameras. Until they get to the courtroom. Then it's all powdered wigs and "Yes, M'Lord, No, M'Lord".


43 posted on 09/28/2012 11:20:52 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: C19fan

Discussion springing from false nationalism can also be fun, BTW. How about that English in the lost identity land of Canada? ;-) And “Who killed Canadian History?” (J. L. Granatstein).


44 posted on 09/28/2012 11:31:11 AM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Oh aye, ginger was a ginger indeed, and a proper gorgeous ginger as well. Wor lass is ginger, I love gingers me ;)


45 posted on 09/28/2012 11:32:16 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: Docbarleypop

LOL


46 posted on 09/28/2012 11:33:54 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: struggle

“I use the derogatory chav to describe “White wannabe rapper type” “

A chav is a white English thug. they aren’t so much wannabe rapper types, they are Council Housed And Violent. They are unique, and not much different then “rednecks” in their mentality and behaviour, the only difference is that they wear track suits, and listen to clubland music.
Oh aye, they are some proper horrible bastards, I hope the Chav movement never makes it stateside


47 posted on 09/28/2012 11:40:24 AM PDT by yank in the UK ( A liberal mocking Christianity. I asked "why don't you mock Islam?" he replied "Muslims are violent)
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To: DManA
They're just trying to separate themselves from the riff raff. From my experience only a small number of people in England speak what we would recognize as English, Toffs and Poofs as it was explained to me.
48 posted on 09/28/2012 11:58:47 AM PDT by Little Bill
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To: yank in the UK

I want a sovereign ring.


49 posted on 09/28/2012 12:34:18 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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I’m surprised no one has mentioned ‘en suite’ - the bathroom attached to a master bedroom.

All the Americans on house hunter type shows on HGTV used to talk about wanting a ‘master bath,’ now they all want an ‘en suite.’

And what’s so British about ‘booking’ a flight or hotel? I’ve always used the term and people have always known what I meant. And I heard ‘chat up’ as early as the 60s movies, though you don’t hear it too much in regular speech.

Little by little, the fall of the republic... : )


50 posted on 09/28/2012 1:04:17 PM PDT by radiohead (Buy ammo, store food, pray for the Republic.)
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