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Antarctic sea ice trends at record highs. Fears for shrinking southern ocean, right?
JoNova ^ | September 19th, 2012 | Joanne

Posted on 09/28/2012 12:24:40 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

While stories of the Arctic record fall in sea-ice have been all over the news, all over the world, it’s almost as if the Southern Hemisphere didn’t exist. Right now, this week apparently, the sea ice is at or near record highs (bearing in mind that we’re still only talking 30 years of satellite records, but then, these are the same satellites lapping over the arctic, and if the records are longer there, I expect it’s only by an hour and a half).

h/t Steve Goddard who asks when the National Snow & Ice Data Centre ( NSIDC) will send out the press releases. They appear to be more concerned about the effects of the Antarctic “thinning” trend on penguins this week. Sunshine hours has graphed it in detail.

Cryosphere compares the relentless fall and rise of Antarctic ice here. Millions of square kilometers in staggering, dramatic melts every spring manage to return in staggering dramatic ice formations each and every year.

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Sept 2012

(Click to enlarge)

I expect that our non-hemispherist unbiased and diligent newspapers will be running with matching ones very soon. Based on news stories like this:

I can see ones like this:

Antarctic sea ice is yet another model failure…

I should add in seriousness, that The Hockey Schtick also discusses Turner et al 2012, which compares model predictions of Antarctic Sea Ice with observations and finds: “In contrast to the satellite data, which exhibits a slight increase in SIE (sea-ice-extent), the mean SIE of the models over 1979 – 2005 shows a decrease in each month, ” and also “The negative SIE trends in most of the model runs over 1979 – 2005 are a continuation of an earlier decline, suggesting that the processes responsible for the observed increase over the last 30 years are not being simulated correctly.

Do send those media links in as you find them! ;-)


John Turner, Tom Bracegirdle, Tony Phillips, Gareth J. Marshall, and J. Scott Hosking (2012) An Initial Assessment of Antarctic Sea Ice Extent in the CMIP5 Models Journal of Climate; e-View doi:

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 09/28/2012 12:24:46 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There have been a few articles as of late explaining that lower sea ice in the northern hemisphere coupled with excessive sea ice in the southern often presages extreme cold weather conditions across the planet.

I’m looking forward to hearing the enviro-whacko’s explanations on this.

2 posted on 09/28/2012 12:33:15 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There appears to be a bi-polar (no pun intended) relationship between Arctic and Antarctic sea ice. In 2007, when Arctic sea ice was at a previous record low, Antarctic sea ice was at a previous record high.

3 posted on 09/28/2012 12:42:40 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

I wonder if people know that as ice melts the volume of the container is less.

I always wondered why the maps that show global warming and ice caps melting loosing land mass.

4 posted on 09/28/2012 12:55:38 PM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

WHAT IF, there was too much ice in the arctic and the planet is relieving itself of some of it.. ?

There could also be way too many Polar Bears as well..
I have a hunch that the planet has “CYCLES”.. for ice, rain, wind, sea currents and sunshine.. even for nasty stuff in the atmosphere.. Like Volcano stuff.. and escaped natural gas(methane).. and carbon whatever..

And that what “MEN” do is like a PoPCorn FArt..
But thats just me.. (belch)...

5 posted on 09/28/2012 12:57:02 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The news reporting is such today that one must be an expert cynic.

If they just pushed a story on receding arctic ice, as proof of global warming, why was nothing said of antarctic ice? After all, if both were receding, they would have mentioned it. It must not be mentioned for a reason, and that reason would be that is disproves the reporters thesis.

This is how I read all news now, not for what is said, but for what isn't.

6 posted on 09/28/2012 1:47:22 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; landsbaum; Signalman; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Lancey Howard; ...
So only the northern hemisphere is warming?

This article has 245 comments at JoNova Website.

7 posted on 09/28/2012 1:58:27 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"So only the northern hemisphere is warming?"
But a few months ago we where reading reports that the Arctic Ocean was socked in by growing ice fields. We read about the Russian ship that was locked in and waiting for air rescue to deliver supplies if required.
8 posted on 09/28/2012 3:49:11 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: SampleMan
It must not be mentioned for a reason, and that reason would be that is disproves the reporters thesis.

Have you ever noticed that no ever talks about how for the last 25 years, China has been on a dam building binge? The volume of fresh water being held by these dams is more than the fresh water held by 3 of our Great Lakes...Huron, Erie and Ontario. If the Earth's atmosphere is only capable of recirculating a finite amount of precipitation, where did all this water come from? What's all this new water surface doing to the Earth's weather patterns? Do you really think climate change is due to carbon emissions?

9 posted on 09/28/2012 7:59:01 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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