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Itís Beer Thirty FReepers! Time For The Homebrewing / Wine Making Thread #15 September 28, 2012
9-28-2012 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 09/28/2012 3:32:43 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good afternoon/evening FReepers. Yep, it is Beer Thirty Time Once Again!

Happiness is a bubbling airlock! And a Cold Brew

 

BEER


Good evening/afternoon brewers and winemakers. Last week I started a Hard Cider and I thought I would give y’all some details. I used three containers of 12 oz frozen concentrated Apple juice and spring water to make one gallon. Original Gravity (O.G.) was 1.060. I also made a yeast starter using some of the Apple juice and a couple tsps of sugar and Safale 05 yeast. I aerated the jug of apple juice and added a tsp of yeast nutrient. Pitched the yeast starter put an air lock on and about 3 hours later I had some slow bubbling action. Yeah! About five hours later it was a steady bubbling every second. So after a week there is a very, very slow bubbling airlock. I will wait one more week checking the gravity and then to rack to a secondary then bottle it after 2 weeks. Should I age it in the secondary longer or bottle age it? Whatcha y’all think?


TOPICS: Hobbies
KEYWORDS: beer; homebrewing; weekly; wine

1 posted on 09/28/2012 3:32:53 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: quantim; spinestein; 5Madman2; DTogo; Horatio Gates; Ribeye; decal; B Knotts; doodad; hemogoblin; ..

Ping to the FReeper homebrewing list.


2 posted on 09/28/2012 3:34:36 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
It's also the first weekend of Octoberfest!

Beer & Brats! (and maybe some Oxtail soup) :-)

3 posted on 09/28/2012 3:34:39 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

bottle age..... and don’t kill the yeast, will be bright and bubbly...!!!!


4 posted on 09/28/2012 3:40:14 PM PDT by DragonMarine (Capitalism works, but it has to be paid for. (From the halls of Montezuma...))
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To: South40

I assume they found enough bottles and kegs for the Octoberfest. A few weeks ago there was a thread about a shortage of both kegs and bottles to supply the O’fest with enough Beer!


5 posted on 09/28/2012 3:40:32 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

My brother has made beer before & it was pretty good ... don’t think I’m quite up to that, but I’m ready to try this!

http://www.backwoodsmanmag.com/images/Feature%20Article%20PDFs/marapr11_HardCider_2.pdf


6 posted on 09/28/2012 3:41:03 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: DragonMarine

might add just a touch more sugar if u want the carbonation


7 posted on 09/28/2012 3:41:39 PM PDT by DragonMarine (Capitalism works, but it has to be paid for. (From the halls of Montezuma...))
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To: DragonMarine

Do I bottle using a priming sugar like I do beer?


8 posted on 09/28/2012 3:41:57 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: MissMagnolia

Nice! Get brewing!


9 posted on 09/28/2012 3:46:20 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I forgot = I did add one full cup of sugar to the apple juice. The original gravity of the juice was at 1.042 and the sugar brought it up to 1.060


10 posted on 09/28/2012 3:49:13 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I just bottle mine when it gets down to 1.015. I don't clarify it like I do beer. It will clarify in the bottle well enough for me.

/johnny

11 posted on 09/28/2012 3:56:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Got the goods together to brew and keg a batch of Blond Ale. My oldest son is on his way home on leave from the Corp. I figure it’s time to get him on the road to the world of homebrew. I’ll hand him the “yard” of IPA when he hits the door.


12 posted on 09/28/2012 3:56:57 PM PDT by BigpapaBo (If it don't kill you it'll make you _________!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Howdy RD. How is Texas treating you? I have everything for home brewing, but have not done it in a few years. Started with the malt syrup and the inevitable boil overs when breaking the fermentables on the kitchen stove. Then I went to doing large batches at a time at a local brew store that had large vats and used hand ground malted barley. Used to do 15 or so cases at a time of large bottles. I should give wine a try.


13 posted on 09/28/2012 4:01:51 PM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zero. Someone else did that.)
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To: BigpapaBo

Ah yes! Beer for a thirsty Marine - nothing better! Give him my best wishes and thanks for his service!


14 posted on 09/28/2012 4:02:21 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: MtnClimber

Go for it! Mead is a very easy way to get started again no heat or boiling involved. Just some honey and yeast nutrient and some good wine or mead yeast and of course time!


15 posted on 09/28/2012 4:07:27 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
I hadn't heard about any bottle or keg shortages but I'll be there tonight, day one, just to be safe. :-)

http://www.germanclubsandiego.org/events/oktoberfest

16 posted on 09/28/2012 4:07:27 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good luck with the cider.

I want to do a cider but being a total newbie to brewing I’m starting with Ed Wort’s Apfelwine: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/man-i-love-apfelwein-14860/
Seems incredibly cheap, simple and near foolproof.
Started it this afternoon.


17 posted on 09/28/2012 4:12:52 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: MtnClimber

Texas is treating me well, enjoying it. But my gardening was limited to a raised bed this year and has not done well in the heat, I got a very late start. So beer brewing and mead and cider are filling the void for now. I still have a few jars of canned tomatoes left from last year that I have been using in recipes. But sadly no fresh maters from the garden for slicing and eating. Miss those fresh maters!


18 posted on 09/28/2012 4:17:20 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: mrsmith

Wow! Thanks for that link! Good luck with your first Cider!


19 posted on 09/28/2012 4:23:39 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: South40

Oh Yes! Let us know how the beer is and those bratwurst and ox-on-the-spit!


20 posted on 09/28/2012 4:42:58 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I am trying different tomato plans. I almost never have a long enough growing season to get tomatoes outside. I have 3 varieties and also jalapeno peppers that I started indoors in large containers, moved otside and are back inside due to frost at night. I have potatoes still to be dug up.

Reading up on wine making. Never tried that before.


21 posted on 09/28/2012 5:41:14 PM PDT by MtnClimber (I did not vote for Zero. Someone else did that.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Add me to the list please. Been here a long time and this is the first I’ve heard of this list.


22 posted on 09/28/2012 5:53:35 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: MtnClimber

My Cranberry Mead I started last November is almost ready for uncorking around Thanksgiving. I have been sampling it along the way during this year long process. Hate the waiting period involved. It is like a nice rosé wine and at 13% ABV is quite tasty. My wife, who does not drink, thinks it has promise because it smells and looks like a wine. Amazing what just honey and water and yeast can produce.


23 posted on 09/28/2012 6:03:41 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2937552/posts
earlier beer thread today...


24 posted on 09/28/2012 6:06:25 PM PDT by Rio (Tempis fugit.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Depends on ur final gravity and if u want a dry cider.

Champagne (or most wine for a sweeter end product) yeast is more alcohol tolerant so will eat more sugar and give fizz if u add b4 bottling. Check ur fermenting yeast capabilities before u decide on this option. Don’t use much since live active yeast = the runs. The cider will be very dry if you take this route. You may add (maltose) milk sugars which the yeast don’t eat for a sweeter finish.

Option 2) Do a still cider. Apple wine.

Option 3) http://www.kegoutlet.com/soda-or-beer-carbonator-for-soda-bottle.html

Many other options exist, but those are the 3 I have had great luck with.


25 posted on 09/28/2012 6:09:50 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’m cold crashing 20 gallons now and hope to transfer it tomorrow. The Ofest and the fresh hop ale. In between working on cars. This ought to be interesting.

Sadly, wifey is still wheelchair bound so we are using the oportunity to head up highway 50 to the apple orchards. I will be buying about 25 gallons of fresh pressed apple juice and will be making a boatload between Sunday night and Monday night. I can’t wait.

Good thing I have a lot of fermenters eh?

Cheers,

knewshound


26 posted on 09/28/2012 6:10:35 PM PDT by knews_hound (Reading without commenting since 2001.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

You have been added.


27 posted on 09/28/2012 6:14:02 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks....been out of brewing for a year or two, but need to get back into it. Hell I have a 15 gallon brew pot, a concrete deck and plenty of propane. ;-P I guess I am just being lazy.


28 posted on 09/28/2012 6:17:56 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: knews_hound

Wow I envy anyone who can get fresh pressed apple juice! 25 gallons Yipes!~ That’s a lot of work and a lot of yeasties. You have to be kegging it.


29 posted on 09/28/2012 7:18:27 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Funny you should mention the 25 gallons.

I have been makin hard code for years and its popularity has gone through the roof. I’m personally making 10 gallons for myself, all the rest are requests fro others. If I’m lucky, I will actually have some left over for the spring.

But I doubt it. Man is that some fine drinking brew.

I am indeed kegging and once carbed, I transfer to bottles for long term cold storage. I back sweeten with apple juice concentrate since it finishes sooooo dry.

Yeah, you have to refrigerate it but its worth every minute of effort.

Cheers,

knewshound


30 posted on 09/28/2012 7:37:35 PM PDT by knews_hound (Reading without commenting since 2001.)
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To: knews_hound

Mmmmmm Sounds good! Thanks for the good info on back sweeting and cold storage!


31 posted on 09/28/2012 8:38:06 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

A question for the malt mavens:

How practical would it be to use dry ice as a carbonation agent instead of priming sugar?


32 posted on 09/28/2012 8:57:54 PM PDT by decal (I'm not rude, I don't suffer fools is all.)
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To: decal

Seems like a very dicey way to carbonate a beer or a good way to make nuclear bottle bombs! It would be very hard to control the level of carbonation. When I worked off shore our groceries were delivered with dry ice to keep them cold. We would use the dry ice to make empty 2 quart plastic soda bottles into bombs. Add a little water to the bottle and drop in a couple of small chunks of dry ice cap tightly and throw them overboard into the water. KABOOM!


33 posted on 09/29/2012 6:13:12 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: mrsmith
I'm staste-testing a cider made froma variation of that recipe right now. Initially, I thought it was ruined since it smelled like a weak vinegar. After reading the threads, I decided to wait and let it settle a bit longer.
We'll see.
34 posted on 09/29/2012 2:47:13 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Sarajevo

“variation of that recipe “

I’d intended to do the ‘original recipe’ except to use ec1118 yeast but...
I hadn’t noticed ‘corn’ sugar in the recipe so I used cane, and I only had 3 gals of juice so I added a pint+ of applesause and some tap water to bring the total to 4 gal.
If this doesn’t work there’s still plenty of time before the holidays to do a batch right.

But it’s bubbling merrily away so may be it is truly a “foolproof” recipe LOL!


35 posted on 09/29/2012 6:02:44 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Woohoo! Last May I went to a craft beer expo and this won the poll and I finally found some! Very good and 8.5%! Can't get the cork back in so I guess I will have to finish the bottle.

Let the debates begin!


36 posted on 10/03/2012 4:21:34 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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To: Manic_Episode

Oh For sure a beer or a few will be needed tonight! Especially while watching the talking heads spin it after. But I hope Mitt knocks obambi outa da Park!


37 posted on 10/03/2012 4:53:46 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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