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To: fabian

Fabian, if you were operating in the power of the Holy Spirit, your arguments wouldn’t sound like the ramblings of a habitual “spice” smoker.

Fabian, if you were operating in the power of the Holy Spirit, you would know that what I just said is not bashing you... I actually know people who are habitual spice smokers who cannot string two coherent sentences together to express a logical thought; if you were operating in the power of the Holy Spirit, you would know that I’m speaking with the spirit of truth, not just using words to win an argument.

Fabian, if you were operating in the power of the Holy Spirit, you would discern that the euphoric feeling of being an eclectic member of a chosen few in possession of a secret knowledge is insulating you from the realities of your spiritual struggle and the day to day life going on around you, and that this has affectively neutered you from being a positive influence to anyone in this world. You have become like a panhandler in the street trying to sell a book on his secrets to financial success.

Fabian, if you were operating in the power of the Holy Spirit, you would awaken to the fact that whenever you discuss in your disconnected, short circuited aimless rants the tenets of your spiritual practices, you may be operating under the illusion that you are a prophet on the mountain speaking to the unbelievers, but in reality, you are advertising a reality show, about a man who’s hooked on a spiritual hallucinogen and the intervention that people at FR are holding in his behalf.

Fabian, if you were operating in the power of the Holy Spirit, your wisdom would be apparent in the first paragraph, like the taste of a savory dish that makes people want more... instead of throwing them snowshovel fulls of rancid, maggot-ridden meat and looking like a madman when you tell them that this is the true food. The poison you eat which has put you in a stupor on the side of the road of life, you’re now encouraging on others whose spiritual walk is passing you by. You want them to eat corruption when they have wholesome food of their own, food which is brought life to people and brought them out of the land of death, which is not only given them life, but life beyond life. You want people to give up that life, to not trust what they smell, or what they see, or what they hear in your corrupted offerings, they should just eat, and experience the same spiritual euphoria and release from life’s problems that you experience. Fabian, if you were operating the power of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit would be telling you that people see in you, and in your conversations, and in the workings of your mind, the results of the path you have taken, and they are repelled by it. You are a weak man who, dreaming of divinity, lay down like a dying dog on his own dunghill, rather than standing up on your own two legs and becoming strong.

Fabian, if you were truly operating in the Holy Spirit, you would have the gift of discerning of spirits, and see that the majority of people here are not coming to you in anger or blind opposition, but in pity and concern. You remind me of a talk show on anorexics, where 70 pound girls try to convince people how healthy they are and how they are eating buckets of good food... but every reasonable eye in the audience can see they are dying.

Fabian, there is nothing wrong with meditation, I myself practice Zen meditation, I’ve been to the Shasta Abbey, I also practice chakra meditation and find it helpful with dealing with many of the distractions and obstacles of the world and of the flesh...but these practices do not lead one to a relationship with God, and worshiping such practices and tools as a source of the divine, can cause such practice to backfire, and lead to madness.

Meditation’s purpose is to empty yourself of foolishness and illusion, not as a path to divinity. In fact, in Zen monasteries, if a monk tells the Zen master, “while meditating I saw a vision of the Buddha!” the reply always is, “well, keep meditating until he goes away.” Meditation’s purpose is to empty oneself of illusion and to confront the reality of existence... that all that is impermanent is untruth or illusion, that only truth is permanent, and that truth cannot be perceived by mortal means. That is why perceiving the truth of God only comes about by super normal, supernatural means, by the love of a supernatural God who sacrificed Himself to Himself to create a doorway between our life and his, a door no man could open except the Son of Man who was the Son of God. If you were at all acquainted with the Holy Spirit fabian, you would realize the power of that statement supersedes the power of your self induced, self worshipping spiritual euphoria.

Consider the words of the Buddha on his deathbed, when finally confronted by the face of his Maker: “All that I have done, all that I have taught, all that I have discovered, is nothing.” Siddhartha was called the “Buddha”, the “Enlightened One”, because he selflessly dedicated his life to finding a practice in a lifestyle that would take people past the world’s transitory illusions of desire, pain and fleshly existence... And he called this state nirvana...but the state of nirvana, by his own words, was as nothing when confronted by the Holy Spirit and power of his God. Buddha, finally confronted by the truth of God, was not arrogant, was not all knowing, he was submissive, he was as a child that knows that he knows nothing. Or, as a Zen master would say, no cup is filled that does not first become empty.

A cup must be come empty before it can be filled, but beware that with which you fill it. Fabian, you are not filled with the Holy Spirit.

Matthew 12

31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. 33 “Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. 35 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” 38 Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from you.” 39 He answered, “A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now something greater than Jonah is here. 42 The Queen of the South will rise at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for she came from the ends of the earth to listen to Solomon’s wisdom, and now something greater than Solomon is here. 43 “When an impure spirit comes out of a person, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. 44 Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order. 45 Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first. That is how it will be with this wicked generation.”


34 posted on 09/29/2012 6:57:31 AM PDT by Tuanedge (The Buffalo hates the Tiger, but the Tiger loves the Buffalo.)
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To: Tuanedge

Wow..talk about rantings on and on. Btw, this is the simple and wonderful awakeness exercise in a shortened version taught by Roy that all of these so called chritians have judged as eastern meditation. Nothing of the sort.
People can see for themselves.http://youtu.be/oJrtH4Uy5R4


36 posted on 09/29/2012 8:25:53 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: Tuanedge

This is what helps people get on the road to salvation big time and what those people vilified as eastern meditation....nothing of the sort and shame on them. People can decide for themselves.
http://youtu.be/oJrtH4Uy5R4


39 posted on 09/29/2012 8:47:49 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter"you min)
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To: Tuanedge

Powerful words! Thank you for them.


41 posted on 09/29/2012 11:30:42 AM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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