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Vanity - The Traditional Asian Community in the 2012 election

Posted on 09/29/2012 10:06:40 AM PDT by Perdogg

I apologize for the vanity, I have not seen anything reported so far about Non-islamic Asian community in the 2012 election. I have seen no metrics regarding these groups.

I live in NoVa and I have noticed in the past 4 years that there has been an influx of the traditional Asians into the area, Particularly, Koreans. I actually saw a young Asian woman with an R2 sticker on her car.

These are small business types. I work with 3 Asians, one of Japanese heritage, two east Indianans; 67% of them are Romney leans. I know that a Korean franchiser owns the Chick-fil-as in the Chantilly/Herndon area.

Does any one have any feel for this group and how they may vote?


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1 posted on 09/29/2012 10:06:45 AM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Perdogg

The polling suggests we hold a lead with non-black minorities. Amazing when you consider the Latinos. I had suspected it was the Asians propping our numbers up. All of them outside the Chicoms and the Norks are reasonably sane when it comes to the economy. They also value hard work.


2 posted on 09/29/2012 10:11:18 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Perdogg

People who work hard, pay their taxes, and wanting to be left alone by the government tend NOT to vote for dims


3 posted on 09/29/2012 10:19:07 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Perdogg
Some recent citizens go with the prevailing trends. They come from countries with one party systems and don't have much experience with two party politics.

I know the perils of generalization and don't want to take this too far, but South Asians in my area who were registered Republican in the Bush years registered Democrat after Obama was elected.

For Asians who were born here, I'd say they aren't that different from their neighbors, other things being equal, bearing in mind, though, that probably more of them live in Democrat-dominated states than Republican ones.

4 posted on 09/29/2012 10:21:14 AM PDT by x
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To: Viennacon
All of them outside the Chicoms and the Norks are reasonably sane when it comes to the economy.

Actually, I think most of the Chicoms would be all-in for capitalism as well.

5 posted on 09/29/2012 10:26:13 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

True, after all, most of them are trying to get away from communism. They didn’t count on Obama


6 posted on 09/29/2012 10:32:08 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Viennacon
True, after all, most of them are trying to get away from communism. They didn’t count on Obama

I'm not just talking about over here. I'm talking about over there, too. They don't do political freedom at all nor do they do authentic religious freedom, but there is plenty of way for an enterprising businessman to make a lot of money there. Yes, there are some government-owned industries there, but a huge amount of the industry is privately owned, especially around Beijing and Shanghai. The collectivism of Mao is long gone...at least in most places that I've heard of.

7 posted on 09/29/2012 10:55:22 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Perdogg

I know how the Korean-American in MY house will be voting, and it isn’t for 0.


8 posted on 09/29/2012 10:55:31 AM PDT by kimchi lover ("I can see November from Wisconsin")
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To: Perdogg

Excerpt:

Asian-American voters a force in November election

Asian-American voters could have more clout this election.

Jerry Large
Seattle Times staff columnist
The Seattle Times
Wednesday, September 26, 2012

A new survey suggests Asian Americans could play a more important role in this fall’s presidential election.

Asian Americans have been a factor in Washington state for some time now, but the country as a whole is just now feeling the surge in numbers created by decades of high immigration.

In 1965 Asian Americans were less than 1 percent of the national population. That year, racially discriminatory immigration laws were changed.

By 2011 Asian Americans reached 5.8 percent of the U.S. population and the numbers continue to grow rapidly.

The infusion of new people has contributed to the country in business, education, culture and now it’s poised to have a political impact.

The 2012 National Asian-American Survey finds that the majority of Asian Americans who are likely to vote in November favor Barack Obama, but about 32 percent of those potential voters were still undecided after the party conventions, and they could affect the outcome in some contested states.

Excerpt. Read the rest here:

http://seattletimes.com/html/jerrylarge/2019270993_jdl27.html


9 posted on 09/29/2012 11:13:43 AM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

Funny how we actually need a new, fresh set of immigrants to help bring this country back. Those scum that have grown up here seem to not know what this country is all about and used to be.


10 posted on 09/29/2012 11:55:06 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Perdogg

A Vietnamese immigrant in NOVA told me a few years ago that her community had traditionally supported the GOP until Jim Webb ran for the Senate in 2006. Then at that point, they went for Webb in a big way, since his wife no. 2 is Vietnamese.

But now the extremely quirky Webb has let down his supporters by refusing to seek re-election. So my guess is that the Viets in NOVA will trend back toward the GOP in 2012.

On the other hand, since George “Macacca” Allen is now on the ballot for the GOP, maybe the Indian immigrants in NOVA will vote “straight ticket” for the Dhimmis — unless Obama’s pro-Muslim sentiments are just too much for the Hindus to stomach.

Anyway, if somebody out there has good evidence on point, please let us know!


11 posted on 09/29/2012 12:24:06 PM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: SgtHooper

> Funny how we actually need a new, fresh set of immigrants to help bring this country back....

If Muslims aren’t included among them, yes.


12 posted on 09/29/2012 12:27:58 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: SgtHooper; Jyotishi

It is just the opposite, immigration is destroying us.

The Americans from the original stock, are still voting conservative, like they always have.


13 posted on 09/29/2012 1:11:04 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12; SgtHooper

> It is just the opposite, immigration is destroying us.

Starting with the first immigration from Europe?


14 posted on 09/29/2012 1:23:53 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

Are you 12 years old? Geez.


15 posted on 09/29/2012 1:30:51 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

> Are you 12 years old? Geez.

Now, that would be different than it was when I was a teen! No paper and pencil, all electronics, etc. So where do you draw the line in context of the comment that was posted? In other words, with which wave of immigrants did the fall begin?


16 posted on 09/29/2012 1:42:06 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

Why don’t we just stay with my post “” immigration is destroying us””

Immigration is destroying us, and that was the intent of the left when they passed the 1965 Immigration Act.

Without immigration the left would be dead in the water.

“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy.

Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s.

In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960.

In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin.

After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.”

Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”


17 posted on 09/29/2012 1:49:54 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Perdogg
Asians tend to lean Democrat because they believe (wrongly) that Democrats are "good on immigration" and more likely to let their relatives move here if they want to. Little do they know, the last thing Democrats want is to encourage socially conservative, highly educated Asians who might someday vote Republican to move into the US. Asians are mad about Hispanic illegal immigration and urban black crime (both of which have a disproportionate impact on Asian small businesses), but they can't seem to understand that the Democrat policies are the primary enablers of the bad behavior of both groups.

Plus, Asians often seem to buy into the Hollywood/MSM characterization of Flyover Country. I knew several in the Bay Area who - though they were not anti-white in any way - were certain that if they drove beyond the urban parts of the San Francisco Bay Area that they were likely be beaten up or killed by white redneck farmers who hate Asians. These intelligent people could not be convinced otherwise. Democrat propaganda has done its job well

18 posted on 09/29/2012 2:01:39 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: ansel12

Okay, you want to limit the discussion to current immigration. The US benefits from immigration immensely. In my opinion we have to make policies and enforce them with that in mind — with minimum adverse side effect. This would mean encouraging highly educated and/or skilled people to come and work here. It would also mean banning immigration from places where anti-US sentiment usually runs high, and from countries with unfair trade practices. This list can be long.


19 posted on 09/29/2012 2:11:52 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi

The left, and the anti-American forces benefit greatly from immigration, the democrat party would never win an election without immigration.

The United States doesn’t need to keep importing people, we need to stop importing the world’s populations, and rebuild our own culture, and nation, immigration should consist of some tiny number needed for administration and talent importation that benefits us, it should not be decided by immigrants as they import their extended families.

I would like to see immigration go back to something more like it was before the left recreated it in the wild 60s.


20 posted on 09/29/2012 2:25:08 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

I think that we have reached the point of no return as far as taking the culture/immigration policies back some decades is concerned. A few things can be reversed, certainly, but the salad bowl — not a melting pot — of multiculturalism is here to stay.


21 posted on 09/29/2012 2:36:14 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: Jyotishi; SgtHooper

By importing so many millions of foreign voters, they now block the native vote, and are destined to overtake it entirely.

That was what that remark about the original Americans voting like they always have, meant.

The WASP vote is still conservative, in fact the Protestant vote has only gone democrat 3 times, in 1932, 1936, and 1964, that is why they had to be replaced.


22 posted on 09/29/2012 3:18:20 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

With this post, it has forced me to think more seriously about this. The quality of blacks coming from Africa far exceeds the existing bunch we have in this country, due to their traumatic experiences and hopes. It is clear to them what is right and wrong. And this applies for the most part to others, although the reasons for the mass “immigration” of hispanics is still suspect with the payoffs. But I believe the Asians and Europeans have good grounding as well. I do not have numbers for which party they vote, and I tend to think they lean right, but I cannot agree with your blanket statement that immigration as a whole is bad. But it needs to be policed and watched closely.


23 posted on 09/29/2012 5:14:14 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

The republicans got 35% of the Asian vote.

31% of the Hispanic vote.

5% of the black vote.

55% of the white vote.

65% of the white Protestant vote.

The last time the democrats won the white vote was in 1964, immigration will be erasing the GOP opposition shortly.

It is what took over California and turned it forever blue. Californians didn’t start voting differently, they were replaced by imported, democrat voters.


24 posted on 09/29/2012 5:55:29 PM PDT by ansel12
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