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Vanity (hey, it's not a blog!) | 9/29/2012 | Outofsalt

Posted on 09/29/2012 5:08:42 PM PDT by outofsalt

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To: outofsalt
just picked up one of these with sheath at Wally's for $27.95... it's heavy duty titanium coated stainless steel for digging, chopping and cutting

Camillus 18" Titanium Bonded Carnivore Machete:


51 posted on 09/29/2012 7:22:03 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: outofsalt

First aid and health?


52 posted on 09/29/2012 7:38:41 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: outofsalt

Toilet paper and pint bottles of booze. The more the better, as they can be used for barter.

I keep reading that ammunition is the best item for bartering, but you must have the right caliber. TP is one size fits all!


53 posted on 09/29/2012 7:55:31 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: cherry

I’ve been looking for wax paper and havent seen it in a while. Where do you get it?


54 posted on 09/29/2012 8:00:37 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: bgill

“I read today that crab grass seeds can be harvested and used as flour.”
Can they be fermented?


55 posted on 09/29/2012 8:00:47 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: SatinDoll

“Toilet paper and pint bottles of booze.”
I can see bartering toilet paper....


56 posted on 09/29/2012 8:05:05 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

Rolls of duct tape and hefty garbage bags. Great for toting, storing, and sealing off windows and doors.

Lived thru the Mount Saint Helen’s ash fall out......


57 posted on 09/29/2012 8:05:42 PM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: outofsalt; bgill

“I read today that crab grass seeds can be harvested and used as flour.”
Can they be fermented?

Yes.

http://www.eattheweeds.com/crabgrass-digitaria-sanguinalis-2/


58 posted on 09/29/2012 8:10:00 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: TEXOKIE

“Crabgrass seed can be used as a flour, couscous or as a grain, such as in porridge or fermented for use in beer making.”
Our Lord is Good!


59 posted on 09/29/2012 8:14:14 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: Keith Brown

Yep, Duct tape and plastic sheeting works for water gathering in boats aand for sanitation needs as well.
Good stuff to have!


60 posted on 09/29/2012 8:18:16 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

toilet paper, pepper spray, dry dog food & dog biskits, dry cat food


61 posted on 09/29/2012 8:21:11 PM PDT by Twinkie (IT'S THE OBAMA ECONOMY, ZIPPY!!)
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To: Twinkie; Keith Brown; TEXOKIE; SatinDoll; Marcella; Any Fate But Submission; PA Engineer; ...

Thanks for your input on my tools thread. I’ve always wanted to go to Switzerland and see just what their army does with those wee tiny little red knives!


62 posted on 09/29/2012 8:53:02 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

Manual can opener.


63 posted on 09/29/2012 9:19:06 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: outofsalt

Plastic sheeting also good for lining the bed of your truck (rain water)IF the sheeting is big enough and bathtub for water retention.


64 posted on 09/29/2012 9:37:28 PM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: outofsalt
Everybody has good advice on how to get along without electrical stuff. But aside from carrying an ammo can full of batteries (which would weigh as much as a can of ammo), how do will you know how good they'll be when it comes time to use them?

That's why I have a couple of ZTS computerized battery testers, both in my bailout bag, and just to have around the house, because they take the guesswork and frustration out of so many battery-related problems.

The smaller ones (about $40) test many types of electronic, rechargeable, and plain ol' consumer batteries, plus lots of oddball ones. The bigger testers test more types, but run up to about $150. The biggest ones also have NSN numbers, which means they are listed in the government's online parts catalog, but you may not have enough "pull" to get one, especially in a war zone.

The alkaline batteries in my cordless mouse stop working when the battery charge drops to only 80%. But those same 80% batteries will run a LED flashlight for quite a while, so all is not lost.

In a barter situation, you might like to swap for batteries, but how do you know they'll work for a while, or are they on death's doorstep, regardless of the "good until" date?

With a tester, you'll have a much better idea of battery health, whether for your own peace of mind, or in a trade.

People have already mentioned booze, ammo, TP, tobacco, etc. as being a form of currency. Most of the other items can be checked visually, or with a quick demo, to give an idea of how useful they will be. Batteries, as desirable as they may be, are a bit trickier without one of these.

And consider having a couple of these testers as spare barter goods. If someone "found" a truckload of batteries, what better way to clinch the sale than testing something at random one one of these?

Batteries will be "luxury goods", but people will be more willing to do business if they know they're getting good merchandise. How much enjoyment can you get from your MP3 player if you know the batteries are good for several weeks?

The smallest model is about $40 list, but I'm sure a bit of online shopping can do better. Just remember that the testers use AA batteries themselves, and make sure you have known fresh ones available. For something about the size of a cell phone, here's an item I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere, but it won't weigh down your wallet or your pack, and might just make you the smartest and coolest kid on the block.

65 posted on 09/29/2012 10:59:38 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: 300winmag

Good idea! I get batteries from work as they replace them in the equipment. Lots of charges left in those puppies. I charge them on my trickle charger but I really don’t have a good sense for just how capable they are. I would use them with an inverter to run strings of LED christmas lights. A couple of the Icicle strings put out a lot of light! I need to figure out how to deep cycle them once or twice a year in some controlled manner. This should help a lot.


66 posted on 09/30/2012 5:59:55 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: TEXOKIE

That is odd....I see wax paper at my local chain grocery and Wal-Mart...right next to the plastic wraps and butcher paper.


67 posted on 09/30/2012 7:06:22 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: outofsalt

I was thinking about that yesterday while mowing my yard. However, I wonder of the need for doing that. I guess it depends on the seriousness of the overall picture. If it is the really bad times, no mowing at all as it is a red tag to come and get me, but if not so bad times, perhaps a good idea to have one.


68 posted on 09/30/2012 8:49:19 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: outofsalt
Pick up a few old style beer can openers (aka Church Key) at yard sales.
Put one in your tool box, bail-out-bag, kitchen box, etc.


69 posted on 09/30/2012 9:27:51 AM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Iron Munro; outofsalt

GI can openers from Amazon:

G.I. Type P-51 Can Opener - 10 Pack $4.82
Sold by Survivalist USA
Condition: new

I keep one in my purse. I have opened two cans with one and opening two cans will have you opening cans easily with these little openers. Our military has been using them for eons.


70 posted on 09/30/2012 2:47:53 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Marcella
GI can openers from Amazon:
G.I. Type P-51 Can Opener - 10 Pack $4.82
Our military has been using them for eons.

Been there and done that for real.

Get a P-38 (smaller than the P-51) and carry it on a dog tag chain around your neck.
Always there for emergencies. 43 Uses For A P-38


71 posted on 09/30/2012 3:28:04 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: outofsalt

Might want to consider a still. Liquor could be used as barter.


72 posted on 09/30/2012 3:35:10 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: Any Fate But Submission

YOur plan sounds nice but out of my reach. I am more concerned with the heat, and other detecting eyes of the feds. You cannot hide from them


73 posted on 09/30/2012 3:35:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: eartick

Actually the government DOES have xray vision and drives down streets in cities in truck using it.


74 posted on 09/30/2012 3:36:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: outofsalt

Bolt Cutters. You never know when a lock keeps you from your goal.


75 posted on 09/30/2012 3:36:16 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Iron Munro
p-38 bump!


76 posted on 09/30/2012 3:38:40 PM PDT by WVKayaker (I'm more than happy to be Obama's "enemy of the week" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Chickensoup

Come on...ur sheeting me, right. Well, I live off the hiway about a mile but I guess I better not throw those lead underwear away, just yet.


77 posted on 09/30/2012 4:33:43 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Iron Munro

The P51 is a little larger and easier to use but also has the hole for a neck chain.

The man who designed these was a genius. Since I got 10, I’m giving them as part of Christmas gifts to family.


78 posted on 09/30/2012 4:51:56 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: CodeToad

Good addition. I’m headed to Lowes in the morning.


79 posted on 09/30/2012 5:33:22 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: 4everontheRight

THanks. maybe I just need to look harder!


80 posted on 09/30/2012 6:26:17 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: outofsalt

LOL!


81 posted on 09/30/2012 6:27:42 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: Chickensoup

>>How will any shelter not be discoverable. There are drones and eyes in the skies. There is no place to hide.<<

Learn the art of disinformation. Keep them scratching their heads!


82 posted on 09/30/2012 7:58:18 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: Marcella
I’m giving them as part of Christmas gifts to family.

Marcella,

That is a great idea!


83 posted on 09/30/2012 10:31:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Iron Munro; Marcella
sportsmansguide.com

WX2-126119 - 100 - Pk. Mil - style P - 38 Can Openers
Buyer's Club - $17.99
Non-Member - $19.99

WX2-126121 - 100 - Pk. Mil - style P - 51 Can Openers
Buyer's Club - $26.99
Non-Member - $29.99


84 posted on 09/30/2012 10:47:21 PM PDT by WVKayaker (I'm more than happy to be Obama's "enemy of the week" - Sarah Palin)
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To: Iron Munro

“I’m giving them as part of Christmas gifts to family.
Marcella, That is a great idea!”

Be ready to tell the people you give them to, what it is and how to use it. You could include a can of something, show them how it goes on the can (the notch must be on the can), and let them practice with that can.


85 posted on 10/01/2012 7:03:11 AM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: TEXOKIE

Sams Club has it and probably the best price, if not a member then most restaurant supply stores also carry it in bulk


86 posted on 10/01/2012 10:35:15 AM PDT by Docbarleypop
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To: outofsalt
A pair of 10" curve jawed vice-grips (with the wire cutter).

A pair of those will get you past a wide variety of mechanical fasteners, and chain link fence.

Also handy for cooking and rigging.

IMHO

87 posted on 10/01/2012 10:44:46 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: B4Ranch

Learn the art of disinformation. Keep them scratching their heads!

_____________________

That does not stop you from being seen.


88 posted on 10/01/2012 11:36:29 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: eartick

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-mq-c4-drones-capabilities-from-a-northrop-grumman-presentation-2012-6?op=1

drone capacities


89 posted on 10/01/2012 11:38:12 AM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: outofsalt

In the cutting tools-saw category, I need to add a one man and a two-man cross-cut saw, and a couple more bow saws with spare blades. Chainsaws won’t be of much use in a long extended downtime without gas/oil and lubricants.


90 posted on 10/01/2012 12:19:45 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (November 6th is the tipping point for freedom in America.)
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To: Chickensoup

Reseach your questions. If illegals are smart enough to figure a way around FLIR you should be too.

CBP uses quite a few jack up thermal devices, but the illegals have learned to circumvent these with the plastic sheeting you can buy at Home depot. They just walk underneath it. Breaks up the heat signature from not only the heat signature from the jack ups but also from FLIR on the helos overhead.


91 posted on 10/01/2012 1:14:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: Chickensoup

Reseach your questions. If illegals are smart enough to figure a way around FLIR you should be too.

CBP uses quite a few jack up thermal devices, but the illegals have learned to circumvent these with the plastic sheeting you can buy at Home depot. They just walk underneath it. Breaks up the heat signature from not only the heat signature from the jack ups but also from FLIR on the helos overhead.


92 posted on 10/01/2012 1:15:50 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: Docbarleypop; 4everontheRight

Thanks so very much, FRiends!

Wouldnt you know it... just today Darlin and I went to our local ACE Hardware and they had it! I got a couple of rolls! Darlin was asking why I wanted so much of it. Here’s just a starter:

http://voices.yahoo.com/10-uses-wax-paper-605958.html?cat=6

http://www.rd.com/home/kitchen-and-home-uses-for-wax-paper/


93 posted on 10/01/2012 4:45:05 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. EdmondBurke)
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To: Chickensoup

Wow, big brother has the future pegged for us doesn’t he? Not all of this available today, but tomorrow looks very gloomy for Joe Citizen if he wants to wiz off of his back porch.....


94 posted on 10/01/2012 6:07:04 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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