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Off-Color Remark Lands Ice Cream Maker In Hot Water [Was Asked If Ice Cream Gelatin Contains Pork?]
NBCNews ^ | September 30, 2012 | Ben Popken

Posted on 09/30/2012 11:43:58 AM PDT by Steelfish

Off-Color Remark Lands Ice Cream Maker In Hot Water By Ben Popken

The CEO of a 100-year old Montana ice cream maker has offered to resign after he made what was perceived to be a racist remark on the company's Facebook wall.

The brouhaha began when a self-identified Muslim customer asked on the Facebook page if the Wilcoxson Ice Cream contained pork in the gelatin used to make it.

“We don't deliver outside of Montana, certainly not Pakistan,” CEO Matt Shaeffer wrote back.

The customer replied that the comment was “rude” for assuming he lived in Pakistan. Underneath the customer's name on Facebook it says that he lives in Sheridan, Wyo., an area to which the wholesale ice cream maker does deliver.

Shaeffer told NBC News he is sorry for what happened. “It was never intended to offend,” he said.

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To: Steelfish

It doesn’t take much to offend the followers of Mohammad. I’ve really had enough of their whining. It’s getting old.


41 posted on 09/30/2012 12:57:15 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Steelfish

You think the guy was rude buy your ice cream elsewhere.
Otherwise STFU and grow some skin..


42 posted on 09/30/2012 12:57:57 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: Steelfish
This story is from NBC. Everything about it should be regarded in the context of disinformation coming from an enemy of the people.

Pat Caddell slams the media: They have become an “enemy of the people” (video 26:00)

43 posted on 09/30/2012 12:58:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Steelfish

>> The customer replied that the comment was rude for assuming he lived in Pakistan.

So who’s the “racist”?

ESAD, all you wannabe arbiters of speech.


44 posted on 09/30/2012 1:03:48 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: Steelfish

Guy can’t take a joke and the Media sees this as a national news event?

Get over yourselves guys.


45 posted on 09/30/2012 1:05:41 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Steelfish
How alien cultures are changing the US! The effects of unlimited immigration Muslim and non-Muslin that clash with the cultures of western civilization that even a century-old ice cream maker must now toe the culturally sensitive PC line.

I grew up in an Orthodox Jewish home in the 1950s & 60s. My mother was constantly calling companies to find out if their products contained pork or other nonkosher ingredients. Is Judaism an "alien culture" that clashes with "western civilization"?

46 posted on 09/30/2012 1:26:45 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

LOL, drama queen much?

Try to stay on topic and lay off the victim stuff.


47 posted on 09/30/2012 1:33:59 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Steelfish
Stick with the Hog-in-Dazs. You can't go wrong.
48 posted on 09/30/2012 1:34:10 PM PDT by BufordP (Chuck Norris doesn't check under the bed anymore. He wears Clint Eastwood pajamas.)
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To: Steelfish

When did Islam become a race?


49 posted on 09/30/2012 1:39:03 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: ansel12

I think you missed the point that the question essentially asked whether the product is kosher.


50 posted on 09/30/2012 1:43:45 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Steelfish

Now this story has got me seriously wondering how ice cream with bacon would taste. Good, I think! :)


51 posted on 09/30/2012 1:52:18 PM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor has no pedigree.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Yes, but New Jersey made up for that by opening Custer stands all over the place.


52 posted on 09/30/2012 1:57:16 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: 1rudeboy; Lurking Libertarian

Post 47 was to a whiny drama queen, playing at being a victim.

The executive’s flippant remark was to a guy that he thought was posting from Pakistan, about his ice cream that never leaves Montana.

Your remark that the man from Pakistan was asking if it is “Kosher’ is probably a bigger, more deliberate insult to someone that we are guessing is Muslim, my guess is that he was asking if it was acceptable by rules of the Quran, if it is Halal.


53 posted on 09/30/2012 2:05:56 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I don’t think muslims should be treated with the same respect as your dear Jewish mother.


54 posted on 09/30/2012 2:07:13 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Sherman Logan

Nope but Jewish law does not bar the consumption of gelatin even from pig.


55 posted on 09/30/2012 2:24:20 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey Low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: gundog
Bacon ice cream. The time is now.

I agree.
56 posted on 09/30/2012 2:24:42 PM PDT by jy8z (From the next to last exit before the end of the internet.)
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To: muir_redwoods

I was going to mention that.

This is from ehow—”Kosher practice, however, allows the consumption of gelatin from any source, including pig bones, whereas in halal cooking, gelatin derived from swine is not a permissible ingredient.”

This is from Mile Chai—”Gelatin; A controversial topic is the status of gelatin. This substance comes from the processed bones of animals. If the source of gelatin is a kosher animal that was properly slaughtered according to Jewish law, then such gelatin is considered kosher by all Jews. All other gelatin is usually considered treif (non-kosher). However, a number of prominent rabbinic authorities have noted that gelatin undergoes such extensive processing and chemical changes that it no longer has the status of meat, and as such may be considered pareve and kosher. Most Conservative Jews, and a significant minority of Israeli Orthodox Jews, accept that all gelatin is kosher.”


57 posted on 09/30/2012 2:27:23 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: muir_redwoods

For the kosher consumer, gelatin must indeed be kosher.

As in all questions of kosher, there are different standards applied by different authorities, and one should consult one’s usual authority if a question arises.

http://www.oukosher.org/index.php/common/article/the_fascinating_story_of_kosher_gelatin_or_how_a_product_from_beef_can_be_u/

...The question is: Can gelatin from non-kosher sources be permitted? Although cows that were not ritually slaughtered, and, of course, pigs, are certainly not kosher, some rabbis were lenient in allowing products that had very small amounts of gelatin added. This is because they felt that the gelatin extraction process caused the skins and bones to be sufficiently denatured, to the point that they are no longer considered food.

This is not the mainstream position. It has been rejected by every major kosher certifying agency. Indeed, equipment that processed gelatin products might need kosherization, depending on the nature of the contact between the equipment and the product...


58 posted on 09/30/2012 2:37:42 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: muawiyah
One of the worst misuses of the word is if you disagree with Obama's policies, or if you are a conservative and you don't agree with his liberal philosophy, you are a 'racist'.

I have very educated siblings who think that way. I'm embarrassed to say I am related to them.

59 posted on 09/30/2012 2:41:40 PM PDT by South40 ("Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance." - Barack Hussein Obama - Cairo, Egypt, June 4, 2009.)
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To: muir_redwoods

Or the Pelosi response, “You have to buy it to find out what’s in it.”


60 posted on 09/30/2012 2:51:41 PM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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