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Hollywood police searching for robber shoot, kill dog
Local 10 ^ | September 26, 2012 | Roger Lohse

Posted on 09/30/2012 1:51:30 PM PDT by Altariel

HOLLYWOOD, Fla. -

A Hollywood police officer shot and killed a pit bull in a resident's back yard while searching for a man who had committed a strong armed robbery.

It happened just before noon Wednesday in the 2300 block of Wiley Street. The 4-year-old male pit bull, named Pup-pup, was shot in the back yard of a home that he was trained to protect.

"I just heard gunshots as I was walking back to the house," said dog owner Antonio Williamson. Quick Clicks

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It happened just after Williamson came outside to ask why so many police officers were parked in front of his house. They were looking for a man who had punched another guy in the face and stole his bike in front of a convenience store on Pembroke Road and 22nd Avenue. A witness followed the suspect to the area on Wiley Street and called 911.

"The police suspected the robber may have gone into the back yard so they entered through a side gate.

"When they got to the back yard, they were confronted by a pit bull," said Hollywood Police Sgt. Lester Cochenour.

The dog was shot multiple times and died in the back yard. Williamson was angry that officers didn't knock first. He said Pup-pup was a humble dog and was great with kids, but was also trained to protect to his property.

"There have been a lot of break ins around here, in this area for the last year and a half or so, and I have my dog out here just for that purpose," Williamson told Local 10's Roger Lohse.

Lohse reported that there are no signs on the side of Williamson's house indicating that a dog was in the backyard. Under the law, police are allowed to enter private property if they are pursuing or searching for a felony suspect.

But none of that makes either side feel any better about how this confrontation ended.

"It is an unfortunate circumstance that the dog and the police met. It was not the initial call but the officer had to shoot the dog to protect himself," said Sgt. Cochenour.

"Well, you know, they apologized about it but naturally the dog was protecting its area," Williamson told Lohse.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: dog; donutwatch; florida; hollywood; police

1 posted on 09/30/2012 1:51:39 PM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

Did they use hollow point?


2 posted on 09/30/2012 1:56:09 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer. FREEDOM OR FREE STUFF- YOU GET ONE CHOICE, CHOOSE WISELY)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
Did they use hollow point?

Those are reserved for Socialist Insecurity officers.

3 posted on 09/30/2012 1:57:55 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: Altariel

The police can wander into anyone’s backyard and just do as much searching as they like. No paperwork required. They just go where they want to go. Anyone (or anything) which starts to complain about it is apt to get a bullet between the eyes.

Have a nice day.


4 posted on 09/30/2012 1:59:20 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Yay, police state.


5 posted on 09/30/2012 2:01:04 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Altariel

Glad to see the comments are squarely opposed to the actions of the officer.


6 posted on 09/30/2012 2:09:00 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Altariel
When they got to the back yard, they were confronted by a pit bull,

How exactly do you confront someone when you're on your own property?
7 posted on 09/30/2012 2:10:34 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Altariel

We know that cops poke around, but I don’t remember them being so military style back in the 50s and 60s, and leaving so much collateral damage that needs to be buried.

Casually killing pets that you run into while poking around and looking, is pushing the envelope.


8 posted on 09/30/2012 2:11:13 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: andyk

You can’t.

Moreover, look at the grammar of the sentence. It’s written in a passive voice; it appears like the sentence has an object, but it really doesn’t.

A sentence written in active voice would read “The police confronted a pit bull in the back yard.”


9 posted on 09/30/2012 2:15:02 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel
"The police suspected the robber may have gone into the back yard so they entered through a side gate.

****************

If the police do not have an "clearly articulated" basis for their reasonable suspicion about the suspect being in the back yard... a "hunch" doesn't count.

They have no rights to enter the premises...
....much less destroy anyone's property.

Get a lawyer... make a demand.

It's NOT a police state...dang it...

Until we "train" them to play by the rules by obtaining seriously painful and expensive punitive judgments..

They will press the limits every time....

And try to get away with marginally unlawful behavior patterns via verbal/psych intimidation...
...and doublespeak ex post facto** explanations.

** (Latin for B.S.)

10 posted on 09/30/2012 2:20:27 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Altariel
"Under the law, police are allowed to enter private property if they are pursuing or searching for a felony suspect."

Under the law are they allowed to kill anything that stands in there way?I kinda f'en doubt it. This crap is out of control and usually just like the screwed up show cops,the innocent dont have the $$ means to get legal counsel to sue the crap out of the municipalities.

11 posted on 09/30/2012 2:25:09 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Altariel

At first when I saw the headline I felt awful. Then I read that it was a pit bull and no longer cared.


12 posted on 09/30/2012 2:27:01 PM PDT by Woodsman27
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To: Woodsman27

Your ignorance is showing.
All Bull Dogs are not trained killers but they sure are protective


13 posted on 09/30/2012 2:30:29 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Woodsman27
If it had been a border collie, the police would have shot it.

When they come for you, there will be no one left to speak...

14 posted on 09/30/2012 2:33:23 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Altariel
Under the law, police are allowed to enter private property if they are pursuing or searching for a felony suspect.

So, once there, in your yard, they are exempt from what happens to them or from whatever they happen to do? Even break a law that they are supposed to uphold just like everyone else is?

Whatever the intent, the law appears to be in violation of one's private property rights.

One's right to the quiet, lawful enjoyment of one's property trumps the right of another citizen, in uniform or not, to break those rights by coming onto one's property in the first place otherwise it looks like illegal search.

It doesn't matter whether or not they're there to uphold some other law that may or may not have been broken.

And it most certainly doesn't then exempt them from any other crime they commit against the owner and their property while there illegally or legally.

The law is supposed to apply to everyone equally.

If you can't go and do the same thing to the person who did those same things to you and not go to jail or get paid leave, whatever their punishment, then there is a problem.

15 posted on 09/30/2012 2:33:52 PM PDT by GBA (The line is drawn, two choices left: We must pull back from the line or be forced to cross it.)
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To: ansel12
This kind of Sheriff of Nottingham Imperial Guard behavior is standard procedure, now. I'm all for it.

Each time these stupid, 'roided, skin-head bloused booted wanna-be thugs pulls some stunt like this, they add to the people who will point out where to plant the IED 'cause they want to find out what it will do to a Crown Vic.

These mental defectives are too dim to realize that they are the Line, that must be bulldozed, between the Commiecrats and the civilians they disparage. They make noises about being 'conservative," but are the visible, daily rapers of the Constitution they were sworn to protect and defend.

It will bring no pleasure to see them dangling in front of the county court house, but killing and pillaging under cover of "law" will bring Retribution...

16 posted on 09/30/2012 2:39:44 PM PDT by jonascord (Democrats are the people on the Lefsst Sidek of the Bell Curve.)
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To: Woodsman27

Just like all pea shooters are AK-47s, all dogs are now Pit Bulls.


17 posted on 09/30/2012 3:02:30 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GBA; Altariel

” the law appears to be in violation of one’s private property rights.”

“Private property rights” are a bigger myth than unicorns.

“The law is supposed to apply to everyone equally.”

Enjoy your government sanctioned illusions.

:-|


18 posted on 09/30/2012 3:30:38 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Paladin2; Eaker; kanawa; wardaddy

Find the "Pit Bull"

If it bit a child: it’s a pitbull.

If it was off-leash and attacked your on-leash dog at the dog park, it’s a pitbull.

If you couldn’t make it let go of what it had latched onto, it’s a pitbull.

If you were scared for your life because it was barking, it’s a pitbull.

If it had eyes that turned red before it attacked, oh that’s definitely a pitbull.

If it jumped up on you and wasn’t in control by its owners, it’s a pitbull.

If it attacked your utility man, it’s a pitbull.

If it was being provoked by a bunch of teenaged louts and bit one of them, it’s now a blooded pitbull that’s beyond redemption and must be destroyed immediately.

If it alerted you to the fact that your house was on fire, it’s a golden retriever.

If it chased away the man who tried to snatch your bag, it’s a golden retriever.

If it jumped into a river to rescue a drowning child, it’s a golden retriever.

If it was being provoked by a bunch of teenaged louts and bit one of them, it was obviously just distressed and who’d blame it for responding in that fashion, and there should be an entire internet campaign to excuse its behaviour and fight for rehabilitation instead of euthanasia – oh and by the way it’s a golden retriever.

19 posted on 09/30/2012 3:40:05 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Salamander

Excellent!!! Would love to have this to post elsewhere.


20 posted on 09/30/2012 3:43:35 PM PDT by MarMema (eh.)
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To: jonascord

“It will bring no pleasure to see them dangling in front of the county court house, but killing and pillaging under cover of “law” will bring Retribution”

Their unions protect them from such personal responsibility.

*Everything* can eventually be “justified”.

They recently gunned down an 83 year old grandma.

It was justified because the officers [whom she called after a burglary] swear she was about to cap them.

Seriously.


21 posted on 09/30/2012 3:44:58 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: MarMema

Check your inbox


22 posted on 09/30/2012 3:45:50 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: andyk

PPL need to hang a sign on their dog that says, “Show me your warrant!”


23 posted on 09/30/2012 3:54:01 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Altariel

I wonder how long before some homeowner shoots a cop accidently after hearing a gun shot in the backyard.


24 posted on 09/30/2012 3:55:42 PM PDT by meatloaf (Support Senate S 1863 & House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: Salamander
I remember when those weren't illusions and have lived in a place and a time where the government was still of and for us, not separate and against.

I believe that's what elections are about, mostly non-violent fights so that those things are reality, not illusion.

And, as this story shows, that still mostly non-violent fight is now on everyday, not just on election day.

If liberty doesn't win every time, human nature dictates that sooner or later, things most certainly will become violent. We barely know what we each are capable of...let's not find out.

25 posted on 09/30/2012 3:57:09 PM PDT by GBA (The line is drawn, two choices left: We must pull back from the line or be forced to cross it.)
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To: GBA
So did I but I stopped believing long ago.

It was a new day yesterday but it's an old day, now. [J. Tull]

This is the New Normal...and we don't get to "elect" 99% of cops.

26 posted on 09/30/2012 4:07:16 PM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Altariel

There is a facebook page called “Family Pets Shot By Law Enforcement”. Awareness Day was 9-22-12

These constant killings are pretty sad. Something is really wrong here.


27 posted on 09/30/2012 4:25:40 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: Altariel

Seems like the defaut thing for them to do these days.
Like it’s written in the bathroom stall:

“Here I sit, broken hearted.
Came to sh*t, but only.... Shot your dog to death.”

I THINK that’s how it goes


28 posted on 09/30/2012 4:36:52 PM PDT by JoshuaLawrenceChamberlain
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To: DefeatCorruption

I can’t find it on Facebook. Could you post the link, please? :)


29 posted on 09/30/2012 5:14:39 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: JoshuaLawrenceChamberlain
and then he killed the dog :04 sec
30 posted on 09/30/2012 5:28:25 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Indeed. The police have already shot at least one border collie:

http://reason.com/blog/2012/05/30/cop-shoots-border-collie-mix-he-mistook

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2888903/posts


31 posted on 09/30/2012 6:02:23 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Politicalmom

“Dogs shot by police facebook page”...it will get you there.
There are several links. Good luck. Very depressing-it has to make you wonder what’s going on. It isn’t good whatever it is.


32 posted on 09/30/2012 6:15:22 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: DefeatCorruption

Thank!!


33 posted on 09/30/2012 7:16:29 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Salamander

That’s on my homepage here. Wonder who copied from me. Find the pit bull has been on my homepage since 2005.


34 posted on 09/30/2012 7:37:27 PM PDT by just deserts
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To: Altariel

Since when have we allowed the JBTs to just enter property?

Its a travesty!

I don’t care if they’re chasing Bonnie & Clyde!

I hope this guy sues for gazillions.


35 posted on 09/30/2012 8:00:01 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Altariel

Why in hell would police think a robber would try to hide with a pitbull in someone’s backyard?

It is rapidly making me feel the police are the enemy.


36 posted on 09/30/2012 10:17:05 PM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Salamander

37 posted on 10/01/2012 12:15:48 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

38 posted on 10/01/2012 1:01:35 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Altariel

This is why the US government can’t be trusted with the death penalty. With so many crooked cops running around, who is willing to bet on a life on the fact that the cops got it right?


39 posted on 10/01/2012 1:03:23 AM PDT by turn_to
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To: just deserts

Beats me.

I’ve seen it posted a dozen times at least, here.

Did you create it?


40 posted on 10/01/2012 2:28:59 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Altariel
Imminent threat of impending attack:


41 posted on 10/01/2012 2:34:31 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Bon mots

I’m stealing that.

;]


42 posted on 10/01/2012 2:35:31 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: DefeatCorruption; Altariel

http://doghatersunite.com/

[the site is run by a “cat person”]

Makes me think of somebody here.


43 posted on 10/01/2012 2:39:48 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Altariel

44 posted on 10/01/2012 2:45:32 AM PDT by Salamander (Can't sleep, the clowns will eat me)
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To: Salamander

Bookmarked. Love the story about the lady whose condo housed a couple of pits; along with multiple cans of mace and several tasers...ROTFLMAO!


45 posted on 10/01/2012 3:08:15 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Bon mots

I’d LOVE to see that sign turn up for sale at Cafe Press or some such...well done.


46 posted on 10/01/2012 3:13:28 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: turn_to

Unfortunately, lives are already being lost. Go to the article about the 83 year old lady who the police murdered.

Disturbingly, many of the comments support her murderers.

The death penalty is already being meted out.


47 posted on 10/01/2012 5:59:00 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander

Pit Border Collies.

They can’t be trusted.

;)


48 posted on 10/01/2012 6:30:07 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander
This is the New Normal...and we don't get to "elect" 99% of cops.

Perhaps, but it's good to keep "what once was and could be again" as a worthy goal and work to make it true again.

Fact is, no generation in America has fully realized the ideals so eloquently stated in our founding documents.

Let that generation be ours!

It's the least we can do for inflicting obama upon the world...though, personally? I believe we were set up with the whole obama thing. But, we still have to fix it.

49 posted on 10/01/2012 9:52:26 AM PDT by GBA (The line is drawn, two choices left: We must pull back from the line or be forced to cross it.)
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