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Two diametrically opposed views of an introduction to opera
Washington Post ^ | 10/1/12 | Anne Midgette

Posted on 10/01/2012 1:19:06 PM PDT by Borges

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To: supremedoctrine
There is a great modern opera by Stewart Copeland, (yes, THAT one from The Police), Called "Holy Blood,Crescent Moon" about the First Crusade fighting the first Muslim jihadis. I was at the world premier in Cleveland in 1989, and it does have its truly frightening moments. I'll always remember the late heldentenor Gene Allen, who sang the lead Knight Templar in that marvelous ringing voice of his...


41 posted on 10/01/2012 9:11:13 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: SamAdams76

Actually, what really got me into it was the advice of one of my early piano teachers. he told me if I wanted to acquire a true legato tone and how to shape a phrase, don’t listen to other pianists. Go to the opera house and listen to the singers and pay attention to how they do it.


42 posted on 10/01/2012 9:17:11 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: TrueKnightGalahad
I love Wagner, but also get huge laughs from both Anna Russell AND one of the greatest of the Warner Brothers cartoons...."What's Opera, Doc?"



Its gotten to the point that every time I hear "The Ride" I think of Elmer Fudd as Siegfried singing "Kill the Wabbit! Kill the Wabbit"!
43 posted on 10/01/2012 9:37:25 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Borges

Not to mention the theme to “The Lone Ranger”.


44 posted on 10/01/2012 9:37:48 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Borges

Introductions: Mozart’s “Don Giovanni”, Bizet’s “Carmen” and Puccini’s “Tosca”.

The first two are a little long, but so sublime that it’s difficult not to be moved.


45 posted on 10/01/2012 10:06:27 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: sitetest
As a 40 + yr fan of Berlioz, I am well aware of the intensity which accompanies a variance in interpretation.
Thanks and G-d Bless.
46 posted on 10/01/2012 10:12:08 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: LaserJock

In the 80’s, I had a series subscription to the Ring series in San Francisco. It was a wondrous thing.


47 posted on 10/01/2012 10:15:20 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

LOL! An audiophile society buddy does the same thing, so now I bring my LP of Die Walküre to meetings, just to hear him sing “Kill the wabbit!” He’s commented that whatever familiarity he has with classical music and opera he learned by watching Saturday morning cartoons.


48 posted on 10/02/2012 12:08:09 AM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: TrueKnightGalahad

“The Rabbit of Seville” is the cream of the crop.


49 posted on 10/02/2012 12:20:12 AM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: oldsicilian
Anna Russell - The Ring of the Nibelung (An Analysis)

1 of 3 on YouTube. I have this on LP. It's wonderful!

50 posted on 10/02/2012 4:20:59 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: Borges

Maybe a little Gilbert and Sullivan to dip the toe? Accessible (english), technical, and amusing.

Might not be the best example of opera, maybe even closer to musical comedy.......

A little night music, the whole thing in either waltz (three beat measure) or a derivative (6 beats a measure)....


51 posted on 10/02/2012 6:46:04 AM PDT by petro45acp (The question isn't "are you better off?" it should be "is it really the government's job?")
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To: Emperor Palpatine

WOW, thanks for the intro. Windgassen and Del Monaco sound great, but not so much of Bjoerling. Prolly depends on the cut and the qualtiy of the mastering.


52 posted on 10/02/2012 7:13:36 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: SgtHooper

Bjoerling’s Act I “Recondite” from the “Tosca” he recorded with Milanov and Warren under Leinsdorff in the late 50’s is one of the most beautiful things you’ll ever hear. Especially the remastered CD of it.


53 posted on 10/02/2012 7:39:44 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: Borges

You can, but it’s counter to the image projected. Only experienced fans know it doesn’t have to be a “formal” evening out. Which is why it would be good to advertise some shows specifically as “casual”. Changing images is what advertising is for.


54 posted on 10/02/2012 8:42:39 AM PDT by discostu (Put another dime in the jukebox.)
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To: discostu

It’s mostly because of how it’s depicted in films and tv shows. Whenever you see a shot of the audience it’s like some alternate universe where everyone is a patrician in formal wear and the monocle has remained in style. If you look at actual audiences at the opera or symphony it’s mostly people who look and dress like students, school teachers and secretaries.


55 posted on 10/02/2012 8:55:20 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

“If you look at actual audiences at the opera or symphony it’s mostly people who look and dress like students, school teachers and secretaries.”

My experience too. Particularly the real Opera-Dawgs who go to the university productions to find out who is up and coming. These are the people who just can’t get enough of it.

A good starting opera wuld be Mozart’s Cosi Fan Tutte. The Marx brothers on steroids, it is hilarious. And if they offer a class on the opera before it begins, take them early and go it. The last presenter I saw was hilarious, had people falling out their seats.


56 posted on 10/02/2012 9:18:43 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Borges

Depends on the age dynamic. The older members of the audience still tend to suits. They probably still dress up to fly too.

Hey Cracked.com has an article today on one of our favorite on going arguments. You’ll probably disagree with everything they say, but they do say it funnier than I ever have.


57 posted on 10/02/2012 9:21:44 AM PDT by discostu (Put another dime in the jukebox.)
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To: discostu

Care to post a link, or at least the article’s title?


58 posted on 10/02/2012 10:58:03 AM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad
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To: TrueKnightGalahad

http://www.cracked.com/blog/4-ways-high-school-makes-you-hate-reading/

Warning, it’s cracked, there’s profanity and stuff. I’ve long held the opinion that the way we teach English in schools, especially high schools, focuses way too much on books 99% of high school kids will hate, which thus primarily teaches them to hate reading. I’m for teaching kids to like reading, even if that means throwing a lot of pop culture pap at them, and trust that if you win that battle eventually they’ll read the classics when they’re old enough to actually understand and enjoy them.


59 posted on 10/02/2012 11:02:54 AM PDT by discostu (Put another dime in the jukebox.)
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To: discostu

Thanks.


60 posted on 10/02/2012 11:53:07 AM PDT by TrueKnightGalahad
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