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Is Cloward-Piven being successfully implemented?
Self | 10/1/2012 | Self

Posted on 10/01/2012 3:02:24 PM PDT by Signalman

My understanding of the Cloward-Piven strategy is that in order to get everyone a guaranteed income and "end poverty", you had to 'overload" the US public welfare system and get as many people as possible on welfare, government handouts and the like.

With record numbers of people in this country getting foodstamps, Section 8 housing, welfare, Social Security disability, free cellphones, etc. it seem that Obama has been successful in implementing Cloward-Piven (along with adding 6T dollars to the national debt and likely bankrupting the country).

No wonder Rush said he hopes Obama fails.


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1 posted on 10/01/2012 3:02:30 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

In a word...YES


2 posted on 10/01/2012 3:06:01 PM PDT by Breto (The Establishment party is killing our country)
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To: Breto

+1


3 posted on 10/01/2012 3:06:36 PM PDT by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Signalman

4 posted on 10/01/2012 3:06:56 PM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: Signalman

As regards entitlement programs, which no politician has yet dared touch, except to augment them with additional programs a la Medicare with Obamacare, there’s a good chance it’ll bankrupt us. It hasn’t been planned by piddling conspiracies, though. It is the consequence of the wrong side becoming the dominant mass ideology 80 or so years ago.


5 posted on 10/01/2012 3:09:10 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Signalman
Cloward -Piven on steroids. Cloward and Piven only envisioned overburdening the reviled establishment of the day, this new generation has managed to overburden everyone, including the next two generations yet unborn.
6 posted on 10/01/2012 3:09:56 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: Signalman

Yes. That has been the strategy all along.

Read all about it in Lost in Zombieland: The Rise of President Zero.


7 posted on 10/01/2012 3:11:44 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: Signalman
THIS JUST IN: Obama's winning campaign slogan:

"The world owes you a living...no matter how lazy, dumb, slovenly, drunk, drug-addicted...no matter how many convictions for distribution/possesion, armed robbery, domestic violence, rape/sexual assualts, murder and mayhem, no matter how many screwups, jobs lost, kids abandoned."

"The world owes you a living and Obama's gonna make sure US taxpayers pay for it."

““The modern bread line in America is over 48 million people long now, it’s called “Food Stamps”.


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8 posted on 10/01/2012 3:14:13 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: rdcbn
Right!

It is only part Cloward-Piven. The other part, the main part, is the Establishment of the World Caliphate.

9 posted on 10/01/2012 3:17:24 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Signalman

You forgot the end of “what is” Cloward/Piven. The goal.

The goal IS to “collapse the system”. They think (correctly) that hungry desperate people will take whatever system you give to them, provided you feed their families.

They want Socialism, this is the way to get it implemented, and after, can even say that it’s what the people wanted.

So yes, he is being successful, that fiscal cliff you keep hearing about signals the collapse of the system.


10 posted on 10/01/2012 3:25:24 PM PDT by FrogMom (Chicken Little is coming, and he's right!)
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To: Signalman

[ Is Cloward-Piven being successfully implemented? ]

NOT till the riots start.. and the flash mobs..


11 posted on 10/01/2012 3:26:52 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Signalman

Yes. You don’t need to look any further than the Obamaphone BS to see that iceberg poking up above the water.


12 posted on 10/01/2012 3:37:38 PM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Signalman
Cloward-Piven simply advocates overwhelming the system until it collapses.

Then you get to build a new system according to your personal desires.

Unless somebody kills you first.

(I'm looking at you, William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.)

13 posted on 10/01/2012 3:50:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Signalman
They certainly are trying to sign up as many people as they can for benefits -- to create dependent clients who they hope will support them at the polls.

It's the Chicago way.

If there's voter fraud, it may be because those dependent clients don't actually turn out to vote.

But "collapsing the system," "socialism," "the establishment of the World Caliphate"? That's people's imaginations running away with themselves.

Real chaos, real revolution, real socialism, like Russia 1917 or China 1949 isn't in the cards, let alone the establishment of Muslim rule.

14 posted on 10/01/2012 3:51:48 PM PDT by x
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To: Signalman

Of course it is.

You’ll also see a drive towards kicking conservatives or e4ven just “nonprogressives” out of work and keeping them there, which in some societies is tantamount to attempted murder.

The civil war is in full bloom already.


15 posted on 10/01/2012 4:13:48 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Look at Soros too. He isn’t a difficult target.


16 posted on 10/01/2012 4:15:54 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: hosepipe
>NOT till the riots start.. and the flash mobs..

Nov and Jan.

17 posted on 10/01/2012 4:16:15 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Hardraade

Thanks.


18 posted on 10/01/2012 4:32:01 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: Signalman

Yeppers.


19 posted on 10/01/2012 4:41:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: FrogMom; Signalman

Even worse, they don’t know WHAT kind of system they would put in its place. They say you can’t plan that until you utterly destroy what exists now. These are French Revolution types who would like to see a return to La Guillotine until sufficient numbers of antirevolutionary and counterrevolutionary, White Russians, if you will have been slaughtered. Liberte, Egalitie, and Fraternitie. . . or DEATH!


20 posted on 10/01/2012 4:48:56 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: FrogMom

The goal is indeed to collapse the system, to foment chaos and anarchy. In the leadership vacuum that then occurs, the segment of society that desperately seeks ORDER (not neccesarily under current LAW), then is quite willing to accept the substitute MARXIST totalitarianism. And of course removal of personal firearms. Martial law by extra legal police (extra Constitutional).


21 posted on 10/01/2012 5:09:55 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Hardraade; John S Mosby
'Spooky Dude' certainly has a vivid imagination -- or he has been helping to plan and finance our 'fundamental transformation' for some time now. Here is what he envisions, from "George Soros on the Coming Class War" (http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/01/22/george-soros-on-the-coming-u-s-class-war.html), January 23, 2012:

As anger rises, riots on the streets of American cities are inevitable. “Yes, yes, yes,” he [Soros] says, almost gleefully. The response to the unrest could be more damaging than the violence itself. “It will be an excuse for cracking down and using strong-arm tactics to maintain law and order, which, carried to an extreme, could bring about a repressive political system, a society where individual liberty is much more constrained, which would be a break with the tradition of the United States.”
22 posted on 10/02/2012 12:18:54 AM PDT by Hetuck
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To: Signalman

Btttflrbietb


23 posted on 04/07/2013 9:34:31 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: John S Mosby

Your comments also explains the “Arab Spring” - and now the leftwing al-queda terrorists are in control.


24 posted on 04/07/2013 9:37:11 AM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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