Skip to comments.Speaking as a concern troll, Can I be zotted?
Posted on 10/01/2012 11:20:15 PM PDT by mhorseman
Hey FReeper's. I HATE to admit it,but I am TRULY becoming concerned about the election. I hate to sound negative, and I TRULY don't listen to the polls (with the exception of Rasmussen),but I am starting to get the sinking feeling, that we are SUNK, and that Obama is going to get re-elected, no matter HOW WELL, Mitt does on Wednesday night!
I TRULY think that there are more people, that are idiots and Kool Aid drinkers, then there are informed,rational, intelligent people (like those found here at FR), in our GREAT COUNTRY.
Am I off base here, or am I just starting to cave from being bombarded by all sides with Poll info,political commentators, and such?
Is there anyone else, that is starting to feel the same way as me?
Reagan was losing according to the MSM up to the last day before the election.
NO...NO....NO AND HELL NO.
I have FAITH and pray, therefore I do not doubt, it would only confuse GOD as to what I want.
Wow! You win the title for using the word TRULY in caps THREE TIMES.
Personally, it’s bad for my health to worry, so I try to “don’t worry, be happy.”
if people take notice of what an empty suit Obama is and how it is negatively impacting them, they will do what is in their self interest.
Obama so far has convinced his base and others that the gravy train can continue indefinitely.
Everyone is enjoying this delusion.
Have you volunteered to work phone banks for Romney?
I think all we need to know is that credible pollsters are telling confirming that the race is essentially neck in neck...50/50. Mitt has a golden opportunity at the debates. The more pessimistic side of me thinks that if America wants and elects Obama...then it deserves its fate. Contrary to what the idiots on the left think, it is not alarmist to say that if Obama wins the country could be permanently done for. GO MITT!
Turn your concern into positive action...rule it before it rules you.
Romney will win in Landslide. Think of all the young first time voters who got out and voted for Obama. They are now looking at the worst job market recent grads have ever seen. They will not vote for him this time around.
Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don’t get it, don’t spread it!
No, all will be well. It won’t quite be a repeat of 1972 but the silent majority will once again be heard.
Drink a cup of tea, go to bed, and tomorrow start to work for the R/R campaign and you’ll feel much better.
If our fellow citizens would re-elect Obama based on his record and the results - we deserve what we get and our Republic is no more.
The country is only as good as the people - not the President. We have become a nation full of people view view government as a caretaker instead of a necessary evil that should be restrained by every generation. We have become a country full of idiots that view elections like an episode of American Idol or a reality television show completely ignorant of the consequences of policy.
That is my .02.
Too many bad white folks....union and younger numbnuts
Minorities....lost cause....and we let them in so they could eat us
You need to do more than get to the polls. You have to get five people to the polls with you. You are as many votes as people you can get to the polls. Have a neighbor that needs a ride?
You sure don’t post very often.
This is only your second post ever?
I’ve been taking wagers that the Black Messiah was going to win re-election since last year. The Big Money wants him in office—he’ll do anything they say, including handing them TRILLIONS of OUR dollars to play with while maintaining their phony wars and destruction of our republic.
Fourteen Freepers are included in the above wagering—they’ll be handing an average of fifty bucks apiece to their local SPCA’s, if they keep their honor. Silly things think RMoney is a real candidate. Ha.
If the Black Messiah loses, I don’t see it as a win for anyone since it makes NO DIFFERENCE who is president. The Big Money runs things, on all governmental levels. Sports on television has as much meaning as the elections to our real lives—none, in other words.
This isn’t meant as a cry of despair. It’s just reality.
I’m a pessimist, so I believe Obama will win the election with fraud on a level never before seen in the history of governments of the world, and nobody will say a damn thing about it, ever.
LITANY AGAINST FEAR
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
You should be afraid, if you have placed your trust in man.
God is the Rock, and beside him there is no savior. Put your trust in God.
President Ronald Reagan and Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.
Modern era conservative heroes. We'll not soon see their like again.
Romney definitely needs to get his messages out there much more than is happening now. And there are only a few weeks left to do it. I can’t figure out why he hasn’t been doing this (like he did when he was running against Gingrich and Santorum). I sure do hope he, or his advisors, are not throwing the election away like many of us believed happened 4 years ago ...
your concern, your point is very well taken.
now, how do we get the message to Mr. Romney? How he could possibly lose this election.. what with the economy on the skids so badly and our foreign and defense policies screwed up so royally...... it would seem impossible for anyone to lose in Gov. Romney’s shoes.... ??
I swore to wait until November 7th to criticize Romney’s campaign or say anything negative about him.
When I have doubts, I donate a few bucks to him.
Suggest you take the same approach.
You aren’t going to respond to anyone, are you.
I posted this in an earlier thread. My mom is 79. She has NEVER voted in ANY election. She registered and will vote this November for the first time ever because she knows this country is lost permanently if Obama and his legion stay in power. She has seen the light. I hope there are many out there like her. I think there are.
If I were to believe all the baloney that the MSM is putting out, I might very well feel the same way you do. I don’t. I know I’m not the only one who has opted out of participating in unofficial polls. That said, why aren’t the poll reports excluding the percentage of people who just hang up on them? Get my drift?
I wonder from where that myth came. Even in the msm polls, Carter led Reagan only in the early part of 1980.
Darlin’, we will triumph as long as voter fraud prevention is in place!
Last election there were many people frustrated at Bush. Today there are even more ANGRY at Obama.
Last election many voted FOR Obama, simply for him to be the first black president.
Many voted FOR him because they had no idea of what he was or stood for. They saw him for what they wanted him to be.
Many in the black community voted for him simply because he was black.
Many union people voted for him simply because he was a democrat.
Last time many Republicans voted for Obama, because of early stated reasons.
Last election Obama beat McCain 52.9% to 45.7%, or 7.2% difference.
Rassmussen had Obamas approval at 60% approval to 38% disapproval, for the first month, with strong approve vs strong disapprove at 39%-25%.
Today Rassmussen has approval at 49%-49%...BUT...Strongly approve are at 28% vs strongly disapprove at 42%.
Obama MUST keep everybody he had. But just looking at Rass's Strongly Approve vs Strongly Disapprove, Obama is at -14. (The Strongly's are the wons who are passionate about their views, and most likely to vote.) One month after the election, Obama was at +14 in the Strongly for category. Today he is -14. A 28% swing.
Put aside the Rass poll numbers. Lets look at demographics.
Remember, Obama CANNOT afford to lose any of these.
Amongst blacks,Obama HAD a lock, Obama has lost some of this block because of his stand on traditional marriage and homosexuality. The black community makes up 13% of the population, and its figured he garnered about 95% of those who voted. Many are disgusted and WILL NOT vote, meaning a loss for Zero. Many religous blacks WILL VOTE... but for Romney, simply because of the gay issue.
Remember the "Republicans" that voted for Zero? That ain't going to happen this time. He's probably lost 90% of them.
Union workers, who consistantly vote Dem, are grumbling. Look for some to jump ship completely, others will stay home.
Those who "thought" it was "cool" to vote for the first black president, no longer have that stigma. For many the shine has worn off. What DROVE them to vote FOR him, no longer does. That group will stay home.
Independents...many for the above reasons have switched. The rest, if they are unsure at this point, means Zero hasn't impressed them enough, and are likely to vote opposite or not at all.
Obamacare has pissed alot of Christians off, be they Catholic or Protestant. That and his assault on traditional marriage and his support of gays will turn MANY away.
Last election There were bumper stickers and yard signs all over. NOT this time.
Heck, even newspapers in other country's were on the Obama bandwagon. You would have thought he was running for President of the world. Today those same papers are just as apt to mock him.
Even if we forget issues, Obama has lost his luster. Those who voted FOR him based on "FEELINGS" (nothing more than feelings) aren't as apt to do it this time. The shine, the coolness is gone.
36 years ago Carter beat Ford 50.1% to 48%.
4 years later Reagan beat Carter 50.7% to 41%.
The point, Carter was the incumbent, he should have had the win simply because of position being held, and yet he LOST 5.350 Million votes from the previous election.
Today, Obama is being compared to Carter (on both sides).
The week before the election, the polls and media were calling an easy win for Carter. He got spanked.
The fact that polls have it close and the media is trying to spin everything positive for Zero, makes me think the left is in desperation mode.
My only worry is voter fraud.
Or something underhanded like a strike on Iran, 1 week before the election. Or a fabricated catastrophe, to make a martial law power grab.
Yes, mhorseman. I feel the same.
It is next to impossible to decipher whether the polled information is true or not, but the good news is that all these polls don’t matter. The only poll that matters, and the one that has no bias at all and includes the total pool and not just a weighted sample, and the one in which you can have a real impact, is the actual election which is coming soon. As long as you vote I wouldn’t worry much. A lot of these polls may be heavily biased by the media, and there are examples from the past where candidates have ‘won’ or ‘lost’ in polls, and yet continued to win in the elections.
What can we do to help?
Along with manning phone banks for Romney, we can
go to Topix:
Here you will have access to thousands of forums and blogs in battleground states.
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We can leave this on forums or blogs on Topix:
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If all of you just spent a few minutes each day referring ‘The Obama File’ on forums, blogs- think how many people we could reach!
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there are more people, that are idiots...
This is the key statement. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again - Obama is not the problem, but the idiots that would vote for him. The Liberal plan for conquest is working, and it began in our schools.
Yes, but third parties weren’t of concern.
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just — Thomas Jefferson.
I feel worried myself. How could we not, with the media the way they are?
Last time, the polls did not look good for McCain, but some people here were so optimistic they kept saying the polls were skewed. Well. They weren’t.
How can anyone win when roughly half the country still believes in the media?
Nobody knows how it is going to turn out, but whatever happens, happens. Moaning, groaning, hand-wringing, and especially fear, doesn’t accomplish anything.
Did you notice they got their asses kicked in the 2010 midterms and all because people hate Obamcare and by extension hate the Obama regime and democrats in general?
I wouldn’t wave the white flag just yet.
“If our fellow citizens would re-elect Obama based on his record and the results - we deserve what we get and our Republic is no more.”
I agree completely. The sheeple have their heads so far in the sand, they remind me German citizens who were forced to see the death camps by American soldiers at the end of WWII. The Germans pretended to be ignorant of the atrocities with the pungent stench of death filling the air.
Folks can only be so stupid for so long until a rude awakening happens.
This country will never get better until we admit how far from out heritage we have fallen. We are quickly becoming the Weimar Republic.
“I believe Obama will win the election with fraud on a level never before seen in the history of governments of the world, and nobody will say a damn thing about it, ever.”
Agree. If they can’t steal the election, a crisis will suspend it.
G-d will pick His leader, don’t worry about it...
Last time the smooth taste of Obama fooled enough people that he got elected but not without the help of some epic voter and election fraud.
This time will be different.
I’m not even a resident of the U.S.A. but I fear for the future of the world if Obama is re-elected. I can’t tell if he is incompetent or evil or a 50-50 mixture, but what he is doing (and not doing) is just about a worst case scenario for the security of many people around the world and eventually that will include Americans at home (it already includes Americans posted abroad).
You need to turf this guy out and anyone would be better, even if Romney does not excite the conservative base, he’s like chocolate ice cream compared to brussel sprouts, or replacement refs compared to being in a sinking sub.
In other words, don’t focus on the absolute but the relative and Romney will be Mount Rushmore material by the time election day rolls around. There’s a mountain not too far away for Obama as well, think it was in Close Encounters of the Third Kind (Devil’s Tower, Wyoming), maybe they can re-name it as a memorial.