Skip to comments.What more can I tell my 25 year old son to keep him from traveling to Mexico ?
Posted on 10/02/2012 6:15:23 AM PDT by George from New England
My 25 year son was making a nice living playing online poker from the home in Florida that he owns. Then on April 15, 2011, Eric Holder shut the online poker activity within the U.S. Many in my sons's field are traveling to Rosario, Mexico (20 minutes south of Tijuana), opening bank accounts in Mexico and paying inexpensive rate to live there and play online for weeks at a time. All to get past the Holder U.S. blockage.
The rates are so low there right now because the tourism is virtually dried up from high crime and bad press. I pointed out to him the if occupancies are at 10% then the ratio of criminals to visitor will be 10 times what it used to be. I also point out that drugs and money is the target of the criminal element and that poker players can be a target just cause of the monies aspect.
I wonder how many Americans are now at risk cause of this Obama/Holder shutdown in the U.S.
Any other arguments or stories that Freepers can share here would be appreciated.
Take him to a local funeral parlor to pick out a coffin.
Dumb and ill-advised.
Make sure he has a will and that all his affairs are in order. Make note of all scars, tattoos and other identifying marks. Get a picture right before he plans to leave.
If he’s putting his $$ in a Mexican bank he can kiss it goodbye. This is from experience. Put it in there and see how much chance you have of getting it out. Endless delays, endless forms to be filled out -— you never fill them out correctly -— they tell you that’s the wrong bank account number,the compuer is down, they don’t understand this new program on the computer, bank manager wants bribes, you only get back a half or a fourth while they say they are waiting for somebody to fix the computer-— he will spend all his days in the bank lobby waiting until he is an old, old man.
Funny - a guy on my senior hockey team is facing the same thing!
Of course, we are very close to Canada, so he can go to the casinos there to play. Has your son looked into Canada? It’s not ideal, but its better than Mexico.
Step 1: On November 6, vote the Kenyan Interloper and his gang of thugs out of office.
Step 2: Try a Caribbean island instead. I hear there are some real nice places down there that are just as cheap as Mexico and a WHOLE lot safer.
If me must go to Mexico to play the game, why not Ensanada or some nicer place. What about Canada? I am sure there are other places that have not been banned by Holder.
He can gamble legally in this country. Introduce him to futures trading and stock day trading.
hmmm, so your telling me that making something illegal does not stop it. Strange...
Can you somehow impress upon the lad that simply dedicating so much of his time and treasure to playing poker (on or off line) is in itself a debilitating and bottomless black hole devouring all he has to spend while on the face of this planet?
Poker is the prime example of a zero-sum game. For someone to win, somebody else has to lose, and this only excites the most base emotions a human being can experience, up to and including kicking over the poker table and gunning down all the other participants. Especially after the guy across the table has been gloating about taking all your chips.
Take out a hefty life insurance policy on him.....
“Step 1: On November 6, vote the Kenyan Interloper and his gang of thugs out of office.”
My son’s take is that the Republicans were going to shutdown the online playing anyway.
I know he won’t vote Obama but he has no hope either way.
Anybody recall that thread?
Tell him you're cutting him out of your will in one month.
Then mail him a copy of this thread.
Tell him that stupidity has a cure.... It’s called death..
Give him a large hefty bag with his name and return address on it and make sure to have him tell someone to collect all the pieces and put them in the bag before sending it back home...
Tell him to get a real job that produces something of value.
You can’t do anything but pray a covering of protection over him. Think about it.... He plays poker! His risk aversion level has been tested and has been superseded. He makes calculated risk decisions thousands of times a day with every hand he plays. You have to remember that how he chooses to or not to do something is completely different than how you assess it. You will not be able to convince him other wise. I think the other freeper that said he will not be able to remove his money has an excellent point. I would ask him to begin to move his money out of mexico and see if he has problems doing it. It may wake him up that what he has may not be recoverable. He can understand that... not a ethereal safety issue .
Unfortunately, if he wants to push all in with “deuce seven off” that is his choice.
Appeal to his sense of risk and describe in realistic terms, the odds of him losing his life.
I would hope he can find a better way to make money soon, sounds like a literal dead end if he goes to Mexico.
Somehow, I don't think I'd be very relaxed in this environment.
Why in the world would he go to Mexico if he lives in Florida? Why wouldn’t he just go to the Bahamas, 85 miles away?
I think a lot of the FReepers suggestions are very intelligent. May I say that I would use GUILT. Okay, maybe it only works for Moms but do this: say, “if something happens to you, it will kill your Mother” or “I have never asked your for anything after raising you with love and commitment but I am going to ask you not to go to Mexico.. even if you don’t agree, do it for me”. Not sure of your financial status but maybe if you offer a few bucks to go to Canada.. he will see you are serious. When all else fails.. cry. Perhaps I am giving away too many Mom secrets but crying (even faked) will bring him around to see how worried and distressed you really are. Good luck, George.
Take out a term life insurance policy on him, make sure the U.S. embassy has his picture and learn a bit of Spanish.
At 25 the only useful teacher is severe pain.
You really don't.
So, I'll just offer The Ultimate Solution For Everything:
Hand over pay or else:
1. If I were moving anywhere to play online poker I’d go to Costa Rica. Much safer than Mexico, cheap, lots of American expats, beautiful, poker-friendly. Lots of the online poker sites are based there.
2. He could move to a place in the US where poker is legal and play in casinos or poker rooms. Vegas is one option but not the only one. I would think this would be a lot better than moving to drug territory in northern Mexico.
3. Poker is a fine hobby but as a career it’s not the most stable or good for long-term well-being. I think banning it online (or in real life) is stupid, but that’s not likely to change under a Romney administration. Maybe this is a good time for him to reevaluate his long term plans and make a career change.
There is no rule of law in Mexico and Americans are considered deserving of punishment for being Americans. It is likely he will never see any money from Mexico, just a lengthy prison sentence unless he can persuade you to send money to pay his large "fine".
You can let him know you won't do that.
Finally, you can let him know that should he ever get out of Mexico, he will likely have serious IRS troubles when he returns, unless he hires an excellent tax lawyer before he goes down there and engages in any financial transactions. The reporting requirements are ridiculously rigorous and viciously enforced. They'll take everything he owns for the slightest oversight.
Candid and to the point... spot on....
You...grab your rosary and keep yourself sane.
It took me less than 30 seconds to clear customs both ways on Sunday. That was exceptional, but nice and I'm sure he can obtain the same documentation that I have.
I'm fairly certain that's what caused my hypertension. But it's a better way to go than Mexico.
Rosario, Mexico isn’t that bad compared to North Eastern, Mexico. It is a big fishing port and not really known for drug crime. He could do worse.
Suggest that he go to Honduras instead. It’s cheaper, safer, and far more pleasant. I have a home on the Caribbean coast, and you can’t beat Honduras for a lovely lifestyle. Personally, i would suggest he grab an apartment in La Ceiba. Nice city. Very laid back. And the government leaves you alone.
That image (up close) is worth 10,000 words.
Quiz him on his knowledge of Charles Darwin...he's putting himself in line for a Darwin Award.
My two oldest children are 25 & 23. I feel your pain. They also know when Dad's about to impart some fatherly wisdom...it starts with a completely off-the-wall observation. For example, "have you heard about the latest Darwin Award winner?"
I know...at GA meetings..
Let me get this straight. You want advice on keeping your professional gambler son in the US? He’s a gambler/risk taker... let him risk is head for cheap beer and a royal flush.
He's right. In fact, the Republicans did prohibit US players from playing online poker, in 2006. What happened on April 15, 2011 was that the three largest sites that still accepted US players were indicted for money laundering and fraud for taking various actions in order to evade the 2006 law.
The shutdown of online poker in this country is a great example of both parties working together to restrict our freedoms. All it took was (more than) a few million dollars from Las Vegas lobbyists.
Tell him that homosexual mexican youts(sic) are waiting in eager anticipation for and TARGETING poker players to set up shop and hand him a jar of vasoline.
Poster said it’s Rosario, 20 minutes south of Tijuana...but according to Google maps that would be Rosarito, not Rosario.
“He’s right. In fact, the Republicans did prohibit US players from playing online poker, in 2006.”
Are you mistaken ???
Who controlled the house and senate in 2006 ??
It's illegal and he'll get killed or arrested but at least you'll be able to identify the body or visit him in prison.
Tell him to get a real job.
Yes, It’s Rosarito. Sorry.
I’d tell him to locate farther south of the border, more towards Mexico City, some place like Queretaro or Morelia or Xalapa. They’re safe, clean, beautiful colonial cities. Highly recommended.
At 25 he’s a fully grown man....He’s more competent to make decisions in his own life than you are.....
If he doesn’t take your advice then shut up and support him....