Skip to comments.Replace Romney With Whom, The Ghost Of Reagan?
Posted on 10/02/2012 10:10:13 AM PDT by not romney
Ok it all started when I harmlessly pointed out that Obama was up by two points in Rasmussen and five points in the Fox News poll. Then I get this twitter reply:
(Excerpt) Read more at rightwingwingnuts.blogspot.com ...
He’s our Toyota now.
I’d settle for a randomly picked U.S. citizen with at least a high school education.
You would still complain after getting what you requested.
These polls are very encouraging since the only way they can eek out a dubious lead for The Disaster is by grossly manipulating them. Even the rigged polls can’t predict a victory for The Disaster.
Romney will win in a landslide.
Prop up Reagan’s bones in the oval office and he would STILL make a better president than a living, breathing Obama....
I remember all thru the Reagan years how many conservatives complained and complained. "He didn't balance the budget, he didn't execute queers, he didn't abolish major government agencies, his cabinet was stuffed with tri-lat and nwo types, he didn't outlaw abortion, and on and on...".
Bill Clinton would be a more conservative choice.
The libs couldn't take one Reagan. Millions of Reagans would make them cr@p their levi's.
What seems to have caused you to excerpt this material?
Don't toss the 2010 results at me since there the Democrats proved they have 39 million voters available to our 44 million voters ~ for midterm elections.
We actually proved in 2004 that we had 63 million voters available, then a bunch of them disappeared. Not quite sure who they were.
The polls, though, are based on about a 9% response rate.
And that means they are no good as a guide to what we are doing ~ so stick with the election results over the last half century. They are a much better guide to the big picture.
Maybe, maybe not. But when you get a zonker behind door #1, you're willing to risk it for what's behind door #2 or #3 even sight unseen.
More defeatist crap. His “solution” is laughable.
You appear to be eager to stop the Republican nominee, but don't offer much in the way of alternatives.
Tell us, who's your guy come November 6?
Ok it all started when I harmlessly pointed out that Obama was up by two points in Rasmussen and five points in the Fox News poll. Then I get this twitter reply:
Wow. Let’s just skip the election! You probably watch MSNBC too, right? #pollworship
Now was it really necessary to be snippy right off the bat? I mean what ever happened to small talk? “You look like you have a nice follow through” or “I like your shoes” ya know, a few pleasantries. The MSNBC quip was a bit harsh but then to follow it up with the #pollworship dig was way over the top. Am I right? Do I look like a pollworshipper? C’mon. That was followed by:
“Polls are easily manipulated. Many polls in 1980 showed Carter ahead. They are meant to moralize opposition”
I think he meant ‘demoralize’ but I let it go because I knew what he meant and I didn’t want to come across as snippy. However I still had to point out the myth of the Reagan comeback, because it was just that, a myth. So I posted this article, “click here”
I don’t think John cared much for the article because of this:
“Gee, thanks. I’m just gonna not vote” to which I replied:
When u say “Gee, thanks. I’m just gonna not vote” do u mean I read it but it made me sad bc I don’t want 2 believe it’s true?
Ok I admit that might have come across as a bit snippy, but even someone as mild mannered as myself can only refrain from being snippy for so long.
The heat was turned up when he said something about feeling bad for my defeatist mentality and that the pollsters had me right where they wanted me. So now you’re probably thinking I lashed out with another snippy comment, but you’re wrong. I calmly said: we have a problem, ignoring it solves nothing. What’s sad is so many on my side act like dems. “Well my intentions were good, I tried”
The larger point I was trying to make is we have to defeat Obama. Our problem is Romney simply doesn’t have the skill set or the temperament to win. Simply crossing our fingers and closing our eyes is going to give us the same result as four years ago.
John told me to do something other than just complain. So then I got super snippy and said: “John, no offense but I’m going to put u in the click your heels twice, fairy dust, unicorn column, but again no offense.” Ok perhaps I’m not always so mild mannered. Especially seeing as how I followed up with: “so your plan is to ignore the polls, chant U-S-A, U-S-A, have i got that about right?
Now I have to admit John did respond with a good question. “Replace Romney with whom, the ghost of Reagan?” Granted I could have done without the ‘ghost of Reagan’ snark, but still a valid question. I said: “Romney should leave the campaign trail and turn it over to Ryan. After the election Romney steps down and Ryan picks a new VP.”
I’m serious. Four years ago we knew weeks before election day, it was over. We still have a month before judgement day. Are we really just going to sit quietly with our arms folded while we once again head over the cliff? We’ve been told for the last year and a half if Obama wins reelection we won’t survive. Was that just hyperbole or did you really mean it? Because if you really meant it, we do what ever it takes.
Things turned sour again when he went off on another ‘manipulation of polls’ rant and something about the evils of excess salt in our diet. I may have called him a half backed wackadoodle, I really don’t remember. But I do remember comparing him to an emotional former girlfriend, during that time of the month.
I also told him earlier in the day Rush Limbaugh was talking about republican enthusiasm being 16 points higher than that of the democrats. Listen to this Steve Deace interview of republican pollster Rick Shaftan. Rick says the exact opposite. “click here for audio”
WI recall polls had Scott Walker down 8%. How’d that work out?
This is probably where we reached the point of no return. I said: “I don’t know why in the era of Google you think you can make shit up and get away with it.” PPP is a dem pollster, “click here”
Yup, a bridge too far. Perhaps I should have said ‘crap’ instead of ‘shit’. These were the last words I ever heard from John: “Go watch a skin vid, sir. I’m finished with you. Adios”
So what can we learn from this tragedy? First, relationships are hard. Second, if you’re headed over the same cliff four years in a row maybe it’s time to say: “AW HELL NO!!”
Romney should leave the campaign trail and turn it over to Ryan. After the election Romney steps down and Ryan picks a new VP.
“These polls are very encouraging since the only way they can eek out a dubious lead for The Disaster is by grossly manipulating them. Even the rigged polls cant predict a victory for The Disaster.Romney will win in a landslide.”
no offense but Im going to put u in the click your heels twice, fairy dust, unicorn column, but again no offense.
“Prop up Reagans bones in the oval office and he would STILL make a better president than a living, breathing Obama “
I agree, but let me ask you this. If in tomorrow’s debate Romney is unable to turn things around, what do we do?
Romney hid during the primaries and relied on carpet bombing of his opponents. Now we’re seeing the fallout of the primary campaign Romney ran. Just today Romney said he still won’t support Todd Akin. In what world does than make any sense?
How about you support our nominee.
I have no idea what you’re talking about
Well, you could always pimp some ill-written blog.
Reckon that'll help?
“More defeatist crap. His solution is laughable.”
If tomorrow Romney has a sub par performance in the debate. If he makes a fool of himself trying to explain Romneycare. What do you propose we do for the next 4 wks? Chant USA while holding hands?
Ah, now I understand. You're from Pollyanna land and don't really take removing the Marxist from the White House seriously. In the meantime, you'll pretend to be a conservative so you can continue to pimp your third rate blog here.
“Look newb. How about you support our nominee.”
I always find it amusing when FR people says things like “Look newb” as if to say, we don’t take kindly to strangers who say things we don’t agree with.
The reason I won’t support your nominee is because all it will do is slow down our run off the cliff. He’s not willing to make the drastic change of course necessary. I’d prefer muddling through another four with Obama than turn the party over the Romney, Mccain, Levitt wing of the party
“Ah, now I understand. You’re from Pollyanna land and don’t really take removing the Marxist from the White House seriously. In the meantime, you’ll pretend to be a conservative so you can continue to pimp your third rate blog here.”
First of all why are you so concerned about my third rate blog. You seem to care a lot more about it than I do. Or are you one those that believe by attacking people that disagree with you personally it helps support your argument? To me it seems so, because my stupid blog is the only thing you know about me, so fire!
And of course the obligatory “you’re a marxist” comment. If you actually read the article you’d realize I’m trying to face reality and try to wake up the Pollyana’s like you.
All my love,
What was wrong with my analysis?
Next, I never accused you of being a Marxist. Only that your stupid idea of Romney suspending his campaign, with Ryan taking over and Romney resigning after the election is, well, flagrantly stupid. Only a Pollyanna would think this kind of action would succeed at removing the boy Marxist from the White House. I called your idea stupid. I didn't call you a Marxist. Grow some skin.
Finally, I live in the real world and, as such, I find your suggestion on how to win the election daft at best. My apologies if that reality gets your panties in a wad. Next time, don't excerpt your blog. Ok?
“pimp my blog”
You’re the second person that became highly offended that someone would have the audacity to write something that didn’t come from the New York Times or with a CBS byline.
I mean Lord knows if you don’t work for the NY Times or CBS you can’t possibly have the learnin necessary to speak on any subject except for maybe ‘Dancing with the Stars’
So please accept my sincere apology for corrupting the purpose of FR. Reading columns from learned people like Paul Krugman and then show everyone you understood all the big words
Hmmmm. Maybe I had you all wrong. You could absolutely be a Marxist. You could also be stupid. And, you could be both. I'm voting for the capitalist rather than the Marxist. Why do you prefer Das Kapital to Bain Capital? I'm voting for the Mormon instead of the moron. You just stated on a conservative forum that you prefer the Marxist moron who thinks the private sector is the enemy. So, no, I don't think you'll find anyone here who agrees with you.
The only reason you're here is to pimp your blog. You might have better luck with that over at DU. Good luck.
Would it make you feel better if I posted it on Tea Party Nation? Who gives a flying patooty where the article is posted.
“I’m voting for the capitalist rather than the Marxist.”
“Das Kapital to Bain Capital”
“I’m voting for the Mormon instead of the moron.”
It does surprise me Romney is not doing better with the talented jingle writers we have on the right.
“You just stated on a conservative forum that you prefer the Marxist moron who thinks the private sector is the enemy.”
No I didn’t, I stated on a conservative forum that Romney is not a conservative and even if he were he’s a horrible candidate losing to the worst President ever. Maybe if we all just chant USA loader all will be well. Only positive vibes people.
“So, no, I don’t think you’ll find anyone here who agrees with you.”
Actually half the people on FR agree with me and half the people are Romney rollovers. So if for some unforeseen Reason Romney loses, do we just say, nice try everybody, we’ll get em next time?
“The only reason you’re here is to pimp your blog. You might have better luck with that over at DU. Good luck.”
Next time I have something to say I will make sure to post it on Tea Party Nation or some other acceptable outlet. It seems I’ve caused at least three of you to have aneurysms and Obamacare doesn’t kick in til 2014
They may not care about your blog pimping, however. Not so here. Blog pimping by pro-Obama n00bs is not considered something desirable on the FR. Like I said, you might find a more receptive audience at DU. Make a hard left and go straight into the darkness. You'll find many kindred spirits there.
You said you prefer Obama to Romney/Ryan. You've made it clear that you prefer four more years of executive orders, czars and anti-capitalist economic disaster to a pro-capitalist. Clearly, this position of yours will also make it impossible to repeal Obamacare. You know, it doesn't kick in until 2014, so we're worried over nothing, right?
I defy you to find any real Freeper here who'll back up your nonsense. Frankly, I'd prefer you get banned, but going after trolls isn't my style. I don't think your far left positions will find much support at that Tea Party site, but it's still a relatively free country. Knock yourself out. Hope you enjoyed your time here.
Shouldn’t this article be in the “bloggers” forum? It’s your blog, correct?
“I don’t think the Tea Party would take kindly...”
Half of the Tea Partiers or worthless, case in point the current elecetion where they rolled over to the GOP establishment candidate who then proceeded to get his butt kicked by the worst president in American history
The fact that Obama is horrible times 5 is really not the point. We can list reasons Obama is a horrible President for the next 38 days. What good does it do if our candidate can’t beat him? Is there any point at which you say, crap, Romney is actually going to lose to this clown?
“Blog pimping by pro-Obama n00bs is not considered something desirable on the FR.”
Hillary thinks our first amendment is a pain in the butt too. Comforting to know there are Freepers standing watch against anything that might be less than 100 pro Romney
Bullcrap! He campaigned in person everywhere, and did over a dozen debates. And he got far more votes than anyone else. I know you don't like Romney, but get a grip on reality. The election is neck and neck at this point (even the phony polls are within the MOE). As for your solution, running to resign will never happen, and would be seen as nutty by 98% of the voters. Basically it would make a close race into an Obama landslide.
“Bullcrap! He campaigned in person everywhere, and did over a dozen debates”
How many Sunday shows did he do? How many interviews beside Fox News did he do? How many Fox News interviews did he even do. Today he said he stands by his decision to not back Akin. Can you enlighten me on how that makes any sense whatsoever?
Wow. It really is all about you.
1st. You really are not particularly brigh. In fact, you might be intellectually shallower than a dry river bed but, I didn’t read you blog.
2nd. This community pays for this site. It isn’t ad supported and we don’t take kindly to smart alec’s who prove with their response they aren’t interested so much in discourse as they are about promoting themselves.
3rd. We got no beef with bloggers but again, we pay for this site and don’t believe it should be used as a part of anyone’s business plan.
We invite your blog and ask that it posted in full. Trust me, if it’s good enough we’ll be rushing to your site.
There are other bloggers here and they receive plenty of hits but understand the community rules to post in full, their really terrific thoughts.
4th. You may very well have something important to say but zipping through your responses it seems more delusory and divisive or well, down right argumentative.
You can’t even make your case without resorting to shallow and deeply idiotic put downs. Really not becoming of FR but, we let nOObs slide because we realize they don’t yet have very thick skin.
5th and finally, all nOOb’s will get the FNG treatment. It’s part welcoming to the community and part weeding undesirables.
You need to pick a side if you wish to stay:
A. You are part of the community.
B. You don’t really care about the community but, it’s more about you and your business.
Just feel free to pick which one you want to be and we’ll be okay with your choice.
Oops! Forgot to include you
Just a little tip, when trying to point out to your friends that someone is not ‘particularly bright’ it would help if you spell ‘bright’ correctly. Also it’s ‘your blog’ not’you blog.’ Normally it would be no big deal but when you’re calling someone stupid it helps not to act stupid.
If you don’t like what I write then don’t read it. To be honest I don’t really care what you like.
So let me get this straight, if someone posts something you disagree with then they are promoting themselves, but if they post something you agree with, then it’s a free flow of ideas. Do I have that about right?
Again, I really don’t care if you have a beef or not, but I have to admit you caught me. Some scoundrel must have leaked my business plan about building a media empire by posting an article on Free Republic.
Do you have a beef if i use courier font?, cause I wouldn’t want to do anything that would cause you to have a beef.
“There are other bloggers here and they receive plenty of hits but understand the community rules to post in full, their really terrific thoughts.”
First of all I don’t know what you are so upset about? What that I put a link to my stupid Google Blogger site? That was the mortal sin I committed?
I could care less if anyone visits my stupid Google Blogger site or not. I first started posting on a Tea Party site but they kept screwing up my password so then I started posting on Tea Party Nation. I still post on Tea Party Nation but it’s a hassle because they have to approve every little thing including changes. So I opened a Google Blogger site. The software is very user friendly, far superior to any Tea Party site or Free Republic. The article I posted today has 5 or 6 links on it, so it’s much easier to just link to my Google Blogger site than redo all the links on Free Republic.
The fact that so many of you get so worked up about whether I post it in full on Free Republic or link to it on Google is amazing.
“You need to pick a side if you wish to stay”
Actually I don’t need to pick a side. I’ll post things on Free Republic when I feel I have something worthwhile to say. If that causes some of you to blow a casket then send little notes to each other about how much you hate that ‘notromney’ guy and then go tell on me and get me kicked off. Otherwise get a hobby.
Jim Robinson on bloggers:
"I have no complaint if a good conservative blogger posts his own material to FR, not as an excerpt to drive hits and discussion back to his blog, but rather to impart useful information to OUR readers and to promote and join in on the discussion and conservative activism HERE on FR.
If a blogger cant or refuses do that, and if he constantly complains or fights with our participants over it, then Id just as soon he doesnt post here.
Its not my job to make his content or his presentation or cooperation acceptable to our readers.
Thats his job.
And if he cannot do it or refuses to do it and continues posting brief excerpts only and obviously attempting to draw away our participants while loudly complaining about it, then I have no sympathy for his complaints and the more apt I am to ban his account and blog.
Rasmussen was the Most Reliable Poll,Romney is Behind in that one
One sentence? That’s the best you can do??
Can't read it, it's not posted here.
So let me get this straight, if someone posts something you disagree with then they are promoting themselves, but if they post something you agree with, then its a free flow of ideas. Do I have that about right?
You didn't post anything, you excerpted it.
Ill post things on Free Republic when I feel I have something worthwhile to say.
You haven't posted anything yet. You needlessly excerpted your own material.
Have a nice day.
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