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How our cities might explode
Tactical Patriot ^ | 10/1/12 | Matt Bracken:

Posted on 10/02/2012 4:46:54 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: ansel12

Poor guy. I really wasn’t trying to put Mr. Denny in a bad light. I’m just trying to learn the right tactics in an incredible situation.

I imagine that any of us could be taken unaware.

But that was then - a different age, a different time.

Me? I expect it. Especially with a Romney win - or loss.


101 posted on 10/02/2012 7:51:46 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Nowhere Man
There was another story written in 1912 called “The Scarlett Plague” by Jack London where the collapse started in 2013. It was about a grandfather telling his grandkids of how life was before the collapse and what happened. It took place around the same time as “The Collapse.”

“The Scarlett Plague” by Jack London can be read online here:

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/21970/21970-h/21970-h.htm

This quite possibly was the inspiration or model for the book "Earth Abides" by George R. Stewart and published in 1949. The final theme in "Earth Abides" is much the same as the theme of "The Scarlett Plague" - to pass knowledge down to the next generations.

"Earth Abides" is still a pretty good read even though it was published well over 60 years ago. The core challenges faced by survivors are universal and timeless.


102 posted on 10/02/2012 7:53:32 PM PDT by Iron Munro (US Embassies Come and Go But An Obama Apology Lasts Forever)
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To: Travis McGee
I've read your books, fine books. In the next one, could you put in a zombie war at a lake? That has so many possibilities.

“Lots of folks are only walking around peacefully today because of their modern and effective antipsychotic meds.”

I was a licensed EMT and I've got medical equipment and various meds. I was also a licensed psychological examiner and professional counselor - maybe I could calm down some of those mental cases who won't have their usual meds.

103 posted on 10/02/2012 7:54:02 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: KittenClaws

Most people don’t know that smaller elements of race rioting took place in many cities around the nation that week, because of the video.

On a small scale, those kind of attacks happen in certain areas of some cities, at any time, and are unrelated to rioting, they are just racial attacks at stop lights and such.


104 posted on 10/02/2012 7:58:32 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Marcella

You might have to, in between dodging axe blows.


105 posted on 10/02/2012 8:00:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KittenClaws

“”You need to educate yourself.

See what happened recently next door in Louisianian. They not only fled en mass, but were found looting etc.””

BTW, the above was directed at the first person listed at the To: box. You were just pinged to see the response to ansell2.


106 posted on 10/02/2012 8:10:22 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Travis McGee

“You might have to, in between dodging axe blows.”

Uh, I also have this med: a Ruger 38 special with hollow points.


107 posted on 10/02/2012 8:10:52 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Marcella

And lots and lots of ammo....


108 posted on 10/02/2012 8:29:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KittenClaws
Hi KC,
True story, my future wife who was driving and I were vacationing in St Croix, we made a wrong turn into a ghetto neighborhood that had only one way in/out. The locals saw their big chance when she u-turned and about 10-12 of them stood in the middle of the street and blocked the road.

My future wife said ruh-ro, down shifted, floored it and aimed for the middle of the group. You wouldn't believe how fast they got out of the way. Mind you this was a little Suzuki Samurai and this was her first day driving stick.

Now you know why I married her. BTW, she's a Psych major and said she knew the would back down.

Lurking’

109 posted on 10/02/2012 8:39:24 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Catholics=John 6:53-58 Everyone else=John 6:60-66)
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To: KittenClaws
Poor guy. I really wasn’t trying to put Mr. Denny in a bad light. I’m just trying to learn the right tactics in an incredible situation.

There are no tactics in that situation. Denny was simply delivering a load of sand, when he drove into a bad situation where people were yelling at him to stop. He didn't have a clue what was happening at the time.

90 percent of people are not prepared for a sudden violent event where they're totally outnumbered. Even trying to shoot your way out, you'll possibly still be overwhelmed.

Denny should have floored it, even though it would mean running over dozens of people, even then he might not have made it.

He was caught totally off guard and was too nice of guy to begin with. Some years late, he shook hands with one of the attackers on some talk show.

Bottom line is ya don't want to be in the wrong place during an event such as this. Problem is, ya don't know when or where it's going to happen.

I was there in 92. It was total chaos.

110 posted on 10/02/2012 8:40:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: KittenClaws

Something that is very difficult to find, is the first 13 seconds or so of the video before the beating started, it shows King getting up and lunging for Powell’s throat with both hands.

The media cut that portion and it keeps getting pulled from youtube.


111 posted on 10/02/2012 8:50:33 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Cvengr
Lose power and water and SoCa becomes pretty miserable.

Most Midwestern/east coast cities experience loss of power frequently, and sometimes for extended periods. This generally does not occur on most of west coast with that kind of regularity, mostly due to less sever winters/pacific influence.

112 posted on 10/02/2012 9:40:27 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: KittenClaws

Roll ‘em up, lock ‘em, and floor it!


113 posted on 10/02/2012 9:58:25 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Kartographer

In November, 2006, Tongans, who identify as a devote Christian nation, looted and burned down their capital city. My husband and I flew out 2 years earlier on the same commercial plane with the prince when a secret coup was threatened. If this is what unhappy “Christians” would do, I hate to think of what’s going to happen to our cities.


114 posted on 10/02/2012 10:46:35 PM PDT by pops88 (Standing with Breitbart for truth.)
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To: dragnet2

I think you misread my comment. I was responding to a comment that blacks have been fleeing the cities based on decreasing percentages of the populution.

My point was that decreasing percentage was due not flight, but to an increasing hispanic population.

There are plenty of hard working blacks and hispanics. A scenario like this might in fact break far more along the logical socio-economic lines than racial. I would say that is especially true with hispanics.


115 posted on 10/03/2012 4:30:56 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: LurkingSince'98

She passed a MAJOR acid test on that day!


116 posted on 10/03/2012 5:31:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cvengr
Lose power and water and SoCa becomes pretty miserable.

Remember the blackout that hit the NE a few years ago? People were helpless with no power. They can be lucky it wasn't freezing outside.

117 posted on 10/03/2012 5:38:58 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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To: KittenClaws

Yeah, I think Denny was in a semi, and I wondered why he didn’t just run the thugs over, too. All I can think is that the situation was so unexpected and happened so fast he didn’t know what to do.
If I remember correctly he had both driver’s and passenger’s- side windows open, and the doors were unlocked so as he slowed down it was easy for the thugs to climb on the truck, get the door open and pull him out.
I think after witnessing the event on tv, lots of us remember the horror of the situation and the reporter in the helicopter screaming “Where are the police? There are no police!”, so in the future in similar situations thugs WILL be run down. Now, I never drive with doors unlocked and windows open-and I definitely WOULD run people down who were trying to stop me.


118 posted on 10/03/2012 5:41:17 AM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Be Brave! Be Brave! Be Brave!" -"War Horse")
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To: LurkingSince'98
Hi KC,
True story, my future wife who was driving and I were vacationing in St Croix, we made a wrong turn into a ghetto neighborhood that had only one way in/out. The locals saw their big chance when she u-turned and about 10-12 of them stood in the middle of the street and blocked the road.
My future wife said ruh-ro, down shifted, floored it and aimed for the middle of the group. You wouldn't believe how fast they got out of the way. Mind you this was a little Suzuki Samurai and this was her first day driving stick.

Now you know why I married her. BTW, she's a Psych major and said she knew the would back down.

Lurking’

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Excellent!

If I'm ever in that sort of situation, I'll need to remember that mobs are made up of individuals who, on their own, would lose at the game of “chicken”

I'm also glad that ya’ll escaped that potentially life threatening situation - smart gal you have there :)

119 posted on 10/03/2012 6:34:32 AM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: dragnet2

There are no tactics in that situation. Denny was simply delivering a load of sand, when he drove into a bad situation where people were yelling at him to stop. He didn’t have a clue what was happening at the time.

90 percent of people are not prepared for a sudden violent event where they’re totally outnumbered. Even trying to shoot your way out, you’ll possibly still be overwhelmed.

Denny should have floored it, even though it would mean running over dozens of people, even then he might not have made it.

He was caught totally off guard and was too nice of guy to begin with. Some years late, he shook hands with one of the attackers on some talk show.

Bottom line is ya don’t want to be in the wrong place during an event such as this. Problem is, ya don’t know when or where it’s going to happen.

I was there in 92. It was total chaos.
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Were you caught in the riot itself? Ghastly!

You make a good point about not knowing when or where.

With the oil boom, traffic has changed here in Odessa because of folks coming in from out of state. I’m often stuck in long lines of traffic. How would I know, if instead of slow traffic signals ahead, that traffic wasn’t stopped due to a spontaneous riot?

I would be totally unprepared in that instance.


120 posted on 10/03/2012 6:40:00 AM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Radagast the Fool

Amen!

What I’m thinking is I should quit fooling around and get my conceal carry license. At least six of any attackers wouldn’t be hurting anyone else.


121 posted on 10/03/2012 6:42:53 AM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: KittenClaws
You might lose some traction if you got one under the wheel, but overall, you have weight on your side. You just need more speed to move right on through and out the other side. Make sure your windshield wiper fluid is full.

Oh, and use low gear, and dont let up on the gas.

122 posted on 10/03/2012 7:02:04 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot
You might lose some traction if you got one under the wheel, but overall, you have weight on your side. You just need more speed to move right on through and out the other side. Make sure your windshield wiper fluid is full.

Oh, and use low gear, and dont let up on the gas.
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Kind of like working a vehicle through a mud bog, then?

I had to think for a second or two about your mention of windshield wiper fluid, then it dawned on me..

123 posted on 10/03/2012 7:42:09 AM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Cvengr

If you lose power in SoCA and many parts of the South West and you will definitely lose water. Perhaps not immediately but after a few days the local water supplies will be gone and no more will get pumped in.


124 posted on 10/03/2012 8:17:26 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Nowhere Man

I’ve read that story! We have it in an old book fronm the 1930’s and it is an awesome story! The part about eating crab on the beach by the Cliff House is really memorable!


125 posted on 10/03/2012 8:22:26 AM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: LurkingSince'98; KittenClaws

Happened to me in Seoul while they were having a lot of student protests. An American contractor had hit slightly injured a pedestrian. A mob formed and pulled him out of the car and beat him to a pulp. They also beat the two military police who tried to help.

The next week I was in Seoul and headed out of town. About 10 people jumped out in front of my pickup at a stop light. They started pounding on the truck and trying to get in.

I had the doors locked so they couldn’t get in without breaking a window and I kept the truck moving. The people in front knew they had better get out of the way or they were hamburger.

Depends on the size of the crowd though. Too many people can stop any vehicle.


126 posted on 10/03/2012 8:28:42 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: familyop

Yes here in Placerville, the would make it about half way through the first off ramp and they would have their hands full with the rednecks. And the sherrif up here is a very strong 2nd Amendment guy.


127 posted on 10/03/2012 8:34:20 AM PDT by crazydad (-` sd)
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To: Marcella

Darn, I live within a tankful of the biggest city in the country and have a state forest next to me which has a lake (only about 1/10th mile away).

I’m toast.


128 posted on 10/03/2012 1:45:05 PM PDT by Betis70 ("Leading from Behind" gets your Ambassador killed)
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To: Betis70
“Darn, I live within a tankful of the biggest city in the country and have a state forest next to me which has a lake (only about 1/10th mile away).
I’m toast.”

Oh, no! It sounds like I wrote that scenario based on where YOU live. If there are riots over the outcome of the election, you are probably okay as I don't think those will last long enough for zombies to head out of town - food and water will still be available if those riots stop after a week or so if they last that long. I hope you are a prepper so you have what you need.

If the economy collapses and food and water go away, you need a plan A and B. Do you have family or friends farther away from the city so there is some safety there? You would need to leave as quickly as possible if you see the economy is failing. People will be bailing out of that city, millions of them.

Perhaps you have thought on this and already know what you will do - I hope so. Stay safe.

129 posted on 10/03/2012 2:33:05 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: KittenClaws

Good for you!


130 posted on 10/04/2012 10:07:31 AM PDT by Radagast the Fool ("Be Brave! Be Brave! Be Brave!" -"War Horse")
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