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NH school board member looking to ban football
myfoxboston.com ^ | 10/03/2012 | n/a

Posted on 10/03/2012 4:02:11 AM PDT by massmike

A school board member in one New Hampshire city is looking to bring an end to the high school's football program.

In a meeting on Monday, Paul Butler, a retired physician and member of the Dover School Board, claimed that trying to stop football both at the high school and throughout Dover was the "moral" and "ethical" thing to do in light of recent studies on the sport's impact on overall health and well-being.

Butler reportedly cited literature that draws a connection between concussions incurred during football and long-term cognitive impacts in his argument.

The former physician also claims that young players will likely still lead with their heads even if coaches try to teach them how to properly tackle their opponent.

The subject was reportedly not discussed further during that meeting. There is currently no word on whether or not the board plans to discuss the subject at a meeting in the future .

Dover High School partnered with Dartmouth-Hitchcock Hospital in a brain concussion study, and as a result, has some of the stricter policies in the state regarding how long an athlete must sit out for after a concussion.

Full Statement from the Dover School Board Chair Rocky D'Andrea:

A story about dropping football from Dover High School has caused quite a stir in our community, and it seems the entire seacoast. We need to be clear that the comments from Dr. Butler were his reaction to various studies he has read not the opinion of the Dover School Board. Termination of the DHS football program has not come before the board and is not on any agenda at this time. Dr. Butler's opinion was brought as a matter of interest only during our Oct. 1st meeting.

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TOPICS: Education; Local News
KEYWORDS: ban; bullystate; dover; football; nannystate; newhampshire

1 posted on 10/03/2012 4:02:19 AM PDT by massmike
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To: massmike

Rush predicted this some time ago. Next will be the requirement that males sit down to urinate.......


2 posted on 10/03/2012 4:05:11 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: massmike

“Butler reportedly cited literature that draws a connection between concussions incurred during football and long-term cognitive impacts in his argument.”

So does this mean that all liberals are ex-football players? /s


3 posted on 10/03/2012 4:07:27 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason.)
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To: 230FMJ

I laughed but...
your comment is one of those ‘dumb like a fox’ comments.

As football is a rite-of-passage for turning American boys into men, the sissified, pansied, metrosexual left just. cannot. abide. it.


4 posted on 10/03/2012 4:11:45 AM PDT by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
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To: massmike

My guess is Mr.Butler goes apoplectic when looking into BOXING both male and female,FULL CONTACT KARATE,PRO WRESTLING,and the hair club for men


5 posted on 10/03/2012 4:12:04 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: spankalib

Yep, you got it..........Great signature line by the way.


6 posted on 10/03/2012 4:19:45 AM PDT by 230FMJ (...from my cold, dead, fingers.)
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To: spankalib

As football is a rite-of-passage for turning American boys into men, the sissified, pansied, metrosexual left just. cannot. abide. it.

Yeah, our country was founded and built by men that never played football. Now the country is going to hell in a handbasket because manly men are sitting on their couches losing brain cells watching football instead of doing things.


7 posted on 10/03/2012 4:19:45 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: massmike

I guess the doctor prefers depression and suicide, living in the lower class of idiots who cannot make decisions of their own. We just got to abandon it all, not try to improve the equipment or what not while continuing the game, nah... that’s not an option.

Another know it all who has no clue about what it is all about from his cave of idiocy and close mindedness.

Contact sports are vital in developing confidence and courrage. It’s all part of the calculated risk.


8 posted on 10/03/2012 4:22:34 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: MestaMachine

I bet this guy believes in abortion, antihypocratic medicine, and that there is no God for sake of his own convenience of making up stuff as he goes with his little misfit ill fit mind.


9 posted on 10/03/2012 4:24:09 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: massmike

I have no problems with the idea of cancelling sports programs...due to cost.

But for PC reasons “the “moral” and “ethical” thing to do in light of recent studies on the sport’s impact on overall health and well-being”? Give me a break.


10 posted on 10/03/2012 4:28:47 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: 230FMJ; freedomfiter2

Thanks 230 - of course it’s lifted from another FReeper’s comments :)

I get your point, fiter. Bread and circus. I do.
But I played the great game of football from sweet childhood memories, through high school, with my sons as they grew up.

Participating...playing is the important thing. Couch-sitting? Not so much.


11 posted on 10/03/2012 4:33:49 AM PDT by spankalib (The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
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To: spankalib

Participating...playing is the important thing. Couch-sitting? Not so much.

I agree. The trouble is that once you grow up, it’s hard to play football. There are other man type activities that you can actually do as an adult. I’d rather get the kids interested in them.


12 posted on 10/03/2012 4:38:10 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: massmike

We saw this on South Park the other night.


13 posted on 10/03/2012 4:43:36 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: massmike

http://www.southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s16e10-episode-1610 Will be released on the internet on 10/10/2012 ~ it’s called SARCASTABALL


14 posted on 10/03/2012 4:46:20 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: massmike
I love football....huge fan....but science is science.If medical research shows a connection between head injuries in sports (NFL,NHL,boxing) and neurological problems down the road then players (and others) must take note.And if research shows a particularly strong connection with head injuries in kids and later problems then that's a serious issue.

One only need look at (and listen to) Cassius Clay to suspect that there just might be a problem here.

15 posted on 10/03/2012 4:49:45 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: massmike

This school board member would have a .000001% chance of being reeelected in Texas, and probably would be tarred and feathered for blasphemy. Glad we don’t have put up with many yankees.


16 posted on 10/03/2012 4:49:56 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: markomalley

How about we move all team sports out of the school systems ?

Parents can form little league programs for their chidren.

Let those parents ‘pay to play’ instead of the taxpayers.


17 posted on 10/03/2012 4:51:30 AM PDT by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: freedomfiter2
The way my boys avoided football was simple ~ BRACES!! Full uppers and lowers.

They look great.

Boy Scouting gave them all the outdoor exercise they needed, and the older one can still do a bare hands climb up a 40 foot rope to the top of a gym. The other is a larger fellow and can carry four water bottle crates under his arms ~ shoulders like a Tokugawa sword-chopper!

Then there were the two great grandfathers who tried out for the Big Leagues ~ they can throw anything! Some of this stuff is hereditary.

But no concussions like one of their uncles.

I gave up even the office touch football league when one of our guys broke his leg and was out of work for about 3 months. Just not worth it.

18 posted on 10/03/2012 4:52:31 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: 230FMJ
Next will be the requirement that males sit down to urinate.......

No, that's already here. Next will have to be something worse.

19 posted on 10/03/2012 5:09:40 AM PDT by cmj328
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To: catfish1957

That’s just pride messing with you.

Your fellow citizens are all hat and no cattle. They will do nothing whatsoever to stop the tyranny except whine and bitch like you are doing right now. Nobody will dare resist.

Texas will ban football in ten years.


20 posted on 10/03/2012 5:14:00 AM PDT by cmj328
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To: massmike

Liberals want to ban football because of the “danger”, but have no problem at all with abortion or death panels.

Sounds more like “selective breeding”, like herds of sheep, than freedom.

They may cut the funds and the football programs in schools, but boys are still going to play it in their backyards, in parks, etc...except then it will be WITHOUT an safety equipment.

Those “unintended consequences” again...


21 posted on 10/03/2012 5:19:24 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: muawiyah
Yeah, for the sake of discussion I always mention my nephew who plays HS football and already has had one concussion this year.

The other night he had a scare with a possible second concussion and as I listened to his parents getting really upset I thought 'you're sitting there watching your kid destroy his brain'!!

As muawiyah said above: Just not worth it.

22 posted on 10/03/2012 5:25:47 AM PDT by LoveUSA (God employs Man's strength; Satan exploits Man's weakness.)
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To: massmike

I remember when NH was considered an independent/libertarian state.


23 posted on 10/03/2012 5:40:38 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: freedomfiter2

“Now the country is going to hell in a handbasket because manly men are sitting on their couches losing brain cells watching football instead of doing things”

Correct, the sports programs are never cut when money gets tight. It’s the Roman Games all over again. Keep the rabble watching the Gladiators and they won’t notice were stealing their freedom. I was listening to a talk show once where the previous topic was vaccinations and the current topic was Bobby Hebert’s salary with the Saints. The caller asked to comment on the previous topic and said it was ridiculous what a Pediatrician was making from vaccinations but we should give Bobby whatever he wanted. Bobby was making more in one game than that Doc was making in a year. Priorities, the dad had to buy his season tickets or get the game plan on tv.


24 posted on 10/03/2012 5:59:57 AM PDT by A Strict Constructionist (We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 230FMJ

You and Rush are right. This is starting up in liberal, scum areas of the country and will eventually spread like a Type 4 cancer. Of course, the real cancer is the spread of liberalism. Based upon merit, toughness, and hard work, Football does not fit into the liberal vision of the world.


25 posted on 10/03/2012 6:08:28 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: wolfman23601
I remember when NH was considered an independent/libertarian state

It still is. Really. But like the rest of the country, we've been invaded by too many metrosexual liberal wimps from states where male children are encouraged to dress and groom themselves like girls and one suspects, made to pee in a squating position.

Just for the record, high school football is still, by far and away the most popular sport in the state.

26 posted on 10/03/2012 6:12:44 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum: "I think, therefore I am armed".)
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To: massmike

They don’t think of the longterm health and well being of kids when they hand them condoms and tell them to have fun


27 posted on 10/03/2012 6:15:43 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: massmike

Yet another chapter in the battle to turn American boys into little wimps. Turn everyone into some passive, tolerant, easily-controlled drone.


28 posted on 10/03/2012 6:17:02 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

For every football player. There are 100 Skateboarders and Snowboards doing somersaults and landing on their heads.


29 posted on 10/03/2012 6:33:50 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Clay has parkinsons. A lady I worked with also had parkinsons and she had never been a boxer. Had Clay never fought a day in his life he would look and sound exactly like he does now.

30 posted on 10/03/2012 6:37:03 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: markomalley

Costs? It is the bureaucrats that are costing schools money not the kids nor the sports programs. There is a lot to be gained from kids playing sports as well as other extra curricular activities.


31 posted on 10/03/2012 8:21:57 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for our troops!)
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To: markomalley

And another thing, as far as costs go- Parents fund the bulk of school sports programs. My son is a student athlete, he plays baseball. I PAY for this uniform and his yearly player fee of $500.00. We also fund raise year round to pay for busing and umpires. BTW, the $500.00 I pay is cheap compared to some other schools in my area where the player fee is upwards of $1,000.00 per season.


32 posted on 10/03/2012 8:26:01 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for our troops!)
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To: LoveUSA

You sound like one of my inlaws ~ about people letting their kids get multiple concusions!


33 posted on 10/03/2012 8:26:58 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: catfish1957

Same thing here in GA!


34 posted on 10/03/2012 8:27:16 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for our troops!)
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To: massgopguy

They’re different? Seriously, with football you will eventually run into something.


35 posted on 10/03/2012 8:28:45 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: maine yankee

We DO pay for their sports at school!!!


36 posted on 10/03/2012 8:32:34 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for our troops!)
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To: Durus
A lady I worked with also had parkinsons and she had never been a boxer.

Yes,I've heard of Parkinson's.I worked for 20 years in a major hospital where I saw it pretty much every day.

Clay has parkinsons...had Clay never fought a day in his life he would look and sound exactly like he does now.

And you graduated from *which* medical school? You're board certified in *which* medical specialty? Neurology? Neurosurgery? Neuropathology?

37 posted on 10/03/2012 9:12:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: massmike

“Live Free or Die” my arse.


38 posted on 10/03/2012 9:25:02 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Gabz; Just another Joe; Conspiracy Guy; Mears; elkfersupper

Football, and sports in general, cause more harm to people than second hand tobacco smoke. Given the support of FReepers to disregard property rights and support smoking bans on private property, I expect to see a lot of FR support for banning the extremely dangerous activity that generally occurs on publicly owned property...

What? No support? Convenient conversatism abounds!

(You know who you are...)


39 posted on 10/03/2012 9:31:14 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: massmike

My father categorically refused to let me play football, no matter how much I begged him. I had the size and speed, so instead, I joined the rugby club. I never let him come to any games, and made excuses as to why. He finally did, in my senior year, and was appalled, but since I had been fairly safe, most of the time, he let it go. I had to cover-up almost every time I’d get injured so he wouldn’t find out. I also played hockey (which for some unknown reason he allowed) and wrestled. Hockey is almost football’s equal in injury potential, and though wrestling injuries are less likely, they are still prevalent.

So, where there’s a will to play contact sports, there’s a way.


40 posted on 10/03/2012 9:51:25 AM PDT by krogers58
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To: Gay State Conservative

You don’t have to be a board certified neurologist to know what the symptoms of Parkinson’s are. It’s no secret that he has it, and it’s no secret that his contemporaries in the ring are not displaying the same symptoms. I guess I don’t know what it is you are trying to say.


41 posted on 10/03/2012 5:45:26 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus
You don’t have to be a board certified neurologist to know what the symptoms of Parkinson’s are.

Yes you do...neurologist,neurosurgeon or neuropatholigist.Here's a fun exercise for ya...in 20 words or less define the term "differential diagnosis".And no fair using google or wikipedia.

I guess I don’t know what it is you are trying to say.

No,you clearly don't.

42 posted on 10/03/2012 5:57:58 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: 230FMJ

Hell..that’s already happened in some country!!!


43 posted on 10/03/2012 6:00:40 PM PDT by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

I wonder if this school board member is a transplanted masshole.

Nanny State PING!


44 posted on 10/08/2012 4:15:32 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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To: massmike

This needs to be blocked before it passes.


45 posted on 10/08/2012 4:41:37 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: massmike
Hey, I don't give a crap about football or any other "sport" for that matter.

When these people get it in their heads that they can "ban" any pasttimes they don't like for some reason----it's time to bring out the long knives.

46 posted on 10/08/2012 4:53:42 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


47 posted on 10/09/2012 9:37:25 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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