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Why Do Gangsters Aim Their Guns Sideways? Marine Marksman Sheds Light On Gangbanger Tactics
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | 4 October 2012 | Damien Gayle

Posted on 10/04/2012 8:21:47 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

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To: TigersEye
I don't know about this guy's explanation but I found that shooting my .45 sideways, causing the recoil to go sideways instead of up, made it a lot easier to get back on target. That's on the premise that you are using the point-and-shoot method and not aiming.

That might be useful for a gang-banger hosing down a crowd with a full-auto weapon. Hold sideways, aim for the guy on the right, let recoil carry your point of aim across the crowd.

51 posted on 10/05/2012 10:52:17 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: PapaBear3625; dr_lew

No, not really. I found it to be very accurate with my semi-auto .45 shooting at a stationary target which means getting back on target. There are two advantages. As dr_lew intuitively understood the grip is stronger so recoil is easier to handle. The second advantage is that the gun doesn’t rise into your line of sight momentarily obscuring your target. Using a point-and-shoot method with any firearm doesn’t require holding the gun up near the face anyway but out of habit one usually does when holding a pistol vertically in the traditional manner.


52 posted on 10/05/2012 12:43:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: binreadin
My partner got part of a round in the top of the skull, but he’s a marine, so it didn’t hurt much.

LOL!! From your comment, I'm guessing that you were in a service other than the Marine Corps. :=)

53 posted on 10/05/2012 1:49:37 PM PDT by Bob
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To: jimbobfoster

And drift induced by the rifling. To the right if the rifling is right-handed and vice versa.

Interior ballistics is fun. Terminal is mo’ fun.


54 posted on 10/05/2012 4:04:03 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: DogByte6RER

BS, BS, BS... Bangers hold their STOLEN weapons that way to look “cool”, same as the hairnets, tats, low riders and the other garbage. The good thing is while Pablo is looking “cool”, I’ll be obtaining a flash SIGHT PICTURE and drilling him in his illegal alien forehead - twice.


55 posted on 10/08/2012 11:35:36 AM PDT by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: Old Sarge
The sideways firing thingie grew out of the gangbangers in LA. They would drive by their target, crack the window open a bit, and stick the gun out sideways to shoot through the partially opened window.

And when their crappy .25 and .380 semiautos failed to properly eject their fired cases, they found that pointing the ejection port toward the ground allowed gravity to help clear the empty and prevent a jam. Sometimes. Which makes it even funnier that about half the time, the movie gangstas are holding their hardware ejection port side up.

In fact, the technique goes back as far as the days of flintlock pistols, when those using handguns from horseback would sometimes carry the piece action-side topmost to keep the powder in the frizzen from spilling out while at a trot or gallop,

56 posted on 10/08/2012 7:26:42 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: Steel Wolf
I can’t imagine pointing a sidearm sideways unless they were trying to be menacing. Against an armed opponent it would be suicide.

The technique was quite common during the 1920s, 30s and early 40s in pre-revolutionary China, when a jolly mix of bandit gangs, Nationalist and Communist armies, and localized warlords all fielded armed troops- as did the Shanghai police force and the U.S. Marine forces of the Fourth Marine Regiment and embassy security detachments.

Popular in that time and place were the full-auto versions of the Mauser M1932 *broomhandle* pistol. Which, if fired without the shoulder stock attached, did tend to rise nearly uncontrolably. Unless, of course, you turned it on its side and let it walk across a line of targets.

A fella armed with a full-chat broomie with a 20-round magazine is not at all poorly equipped. And using one in such a fashion is far from suicidal.

57 posted on 10/08/2012 7:35:24 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: PapaBear3625
That might be useful for a gang-banger hosing down a crowd with a full-auto weapon. Hold sideways, aim for the guy on the right, let recoil carry your point of aim across the crowd.

Particularly at night, when the sights may not be visible. But even with the broomhandle Mausers, the troops were trained to use the stock, take a steady sitting position and use the sights....when they could see them.


58 posted on 10/08/2012 7:44:02 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: archy

Great explanation!

Haven’t seen you in a coon’s age.


59 posted on 10/13/2012 4:37:04 PM PDT by Eaker (Stripping Americans of their freedom and dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.)
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To: Eaker
Great explanation!

Haven’t seen you in a coon’s age.

I'm doing okay. Got a little busy with the election coming up, and came out of retirement to assist in skewering a couple of likely prospects. I'll be back around more after trhe dust settles some in a couple of weeks.

60 posted on 10/20/2012 6:07:37 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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