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Naked college freshman, 18, shot dead by campus police after he 'charged at officer' (Alabama)
dailymail ^ | 6 October 2012 | By James Nye

Posted on 10/06/2012 6:23:12 PM PDT by dennisw

In a tragic and bizarre incident a University of Alabama student who was naked has been fatally shot after charging a campus police officer early on Saturday morning.

University officials said that the confrontation occurred after the officer went outside the police station to investigate a banging noise that was coming from his office window.

Confronted with 18-year-old Gilbert Thomas Collar who was acting erratically and wearing no clothes, the officer shot the student once in the chest after he repeatedly charged.

Authorities said that the officer attempted to retreat several times in an attempt to defuse the situation but that the officer was left with no choice but to shoot when Collar made one final charge.

Collar, who had only recently enrolled at the University of South Alabama was shot at 1.30 a.m. on Saturday moening outside the USA Police Department on Stadium Drive .

'We can't comment beyond the statement,' said Ayers after he read a prepared statement during a news conference this afternoon on the campus.

'University of South Alabama Police report that an officer shot and killed an individual at approximately 1:30 a.m., Oct. 6, after the man attacked the officer just outside the police department on Stadium Drive The deceased has been identified as a USA student.'

The former high school wrestler's coach could hardly speak when interviewed by his hometown newspaper The Wetumpka Herald this morning.

'I remember the first time he walked into the wrestling room,' said Jeff Glass.

'He was such a natural. He was the only wrestler I coached who wrestled varsity for six years. That takes more heart than I can tell you. We began our tenure in Wetumpka wrestling at the same time. He was a physical, spiritual and mental warrior. And I love him like my own.'

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KEYWORDS: alabama; donutwatch; jbt; leo; lsd; uofsouthalabama
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1 posted on 10/06/2012 6:23:16 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Should have gone for his baton first.


2 posted on 10/06/2012 6:25:09 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Romney/Ryan 2012)
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To: dennisw

I’m guessing there are drugs involved.


3 posted on 10/06/2012 6:25:38 PM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: dennisw

Why weren’t more Kampus Kops called to the scene to subdue this young man whose parents had just entrusted to the University of Alabama? This is a disgrace! He was a freshman who just started there and obviously got liquored up beyond what he could handle


4 posted on 10/06/2012 6:25:52 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: theDentist

I’m guessing alcohol was involved it makes you want to get nekkid (sometimes)


5 posted on 10/06/2012 6:28:01 PM PDT by dennisw (Government be yo mamma - Re-elect Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw

“Acting erratically and wearing no clothes” pretty much sums up my college experience... And worse. Any university or college officer knows that his/her first job is to protect and defend the students and the institution. If you don’t know what I’m talking about (and I do know what I am talking about,) you don’t know what you’re talking about.


6 posted on 10/06/2012 6:30:06 PM PDT by golux
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To: dennisw

Pouring alcohol and drugs down your throat may not be a good idea? You thinks?


7 posted on 10/06/2012 6:31:23 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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To: dennisw

There was a time when shooting an unarmed man was regarded in a very bad light. I note the officer has the standard line down pat. Did it never occur to him, to summon other officers and subdue this man? Nope. Blam, blam. I felt my life was threatened.


8 posted on 10/06/2012 6:31:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: dennisw

Shooting an unarmed drunk kid !
These campus cops are morons .
I hope the family gets a good lawyer and nails them.


9 posted on 10/06/2012 6:31:40 PM PDT by ncalburt (Axelrod Psych OPS has gone to 24/7 non stop - "The election is over " status until Nov)
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To: dennisw

No tazers?


10 posted on 10/06/2012 6:32:19 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Larry Lucido

He’s auditioning for the NYPD.


11 posted on 10/06/2012 6:32:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dennisw

Uhh, do they not have pepper spray or maybe a taser gun in Alabama?


12 posted on 10/06/2012 6:34:36 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: golux
"Any university or college officer knows that his/her first job is to protect and defend the students and the institution."

That's the way I remember it in the 60's.

13 posted on 10/06/2012 6:35:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Larry Lucido

>>Should have gone for his baton first.

His? My guess is hers.


14 posted on 10/06/2012 6:37:14 PM PDT by expat1000
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To: Revolting cat!; Slings and Arrows

Bath salts are a hell of drug.


15 posted on 10/06/2012 6:37:39 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: dennisw

First, the man was 18. The University is not a baby sitter and his parents should have prepared him to be an adult by the time he became an adult. He was a man, not a child.

Second, as unpleasant as it may have been to contemplate, this 18 year old could easily have been restrained by a couple of men who were trained in security. Calling for backup, using some restraining techniques, and putting this man in jail for 30 days for his behavior should have been what happened in this case. Security guy screwed up big time.


16 posted on 10/06/2012 6:38:44 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008BAL1OK/)
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To: ncalburt

“Shooting an unarmed drunk kid !
These campus cops are morons .
I hope the family gets a good lawyer and nails them.”
_____________________________________

I agree.
Cops everywhere are nothing like they were in the past.
The profession now seems to attract more “jack-booted thugs”.


17 posted on 10/06/2012 6:39:37 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: dennisw

Way back in my college days in the late 60’s campus police were unheard of. But then Bill Ayers and company decided that violent demonstrations on campus was neato/keeno and suddenly campus police started to spring up all across the nation. By the time I graduated in 71 all the big schools had campus/rent-a-thugs inplaced.


18 posted on 10/06/2012 6:41:02 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,)
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To: dennisw

This occurred at the University of SOUTH Alabama, in Mobile, Alabama.

The University of SOUTH Alabama is not affiliated in any way with The University of Alabama, located in Tuscaloosa, AL.

It is not a part of The University of Alabama system (unlike University of Alabama at Huntsville and University of Alabama Birmingham).


19 posted on 10/06/2012 6:41:56 PM PDT by worrywart (ww)
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To: dennisw

Bath salts?


20 posted on 10/06/2012 6:46:01 PM PDT by Revel
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To: dennisw

These kids, raised on unrealistic violent movies, and filled with bipartisan, politically neutral (Kumbaya, comrades!) contempt for authority, and especially police force (as wello illustrated on this very forum) don’t know the first lesson of dealing with the forces of law on the street: don’t challenge them.


21 posted on 10/06/2012 6:48:43 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: dennisw
He was the only wrestler I coached who wrestled varsity for six years.

I'll bet he wishes he spent a seventh year in High School.

22 posted on 10/06/2012 6:51:44 PM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: dennisw

Cops are very nervous about “bath salts” and the very dangerous psychosis it induces.


23 posted on 10/06/2012 6:51:44 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: worrywart

Both universities have elephants. At the University of South Alabama the tusks are attached very tightly. At the University of Alabama the tusks are looser.


24 posted on 10/06/2012 6:53:22 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: a fool in paradise

That’s my guess too, Bath Salts.

You either shoot the naked idiot or get your face eaten off.

People should read up on bth salts. This aint your daddy’s snort.


25 posted on 10/06/2012 6:54:11 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: a fool in paradise

That’s my guess too, Bath Salts.

You either shoot the naked idiot or get your face eaten off.

People should read up on bath salts. This aint your daddy’s snort.


26 posted on 10/06/2012 6:54:15 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Back when, any 18 year old was an adult. Not any more. If you want 18 year old adults, you have to go to Camp LeJeune, NC, or Ft Bragg, NC.

By the same token, however, what is a Kampus Klown doing with authorization to be able to kill underage drunks? Must have been a criminal justice major. So that is 30 days suspension with pay?

27 posted on 10/06/2012 6:55:14 PM PDT by jonascord (Democrats are the people on the Left Side of the IQ Bell Curve.)
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To: Larry Lucido

Why the officer choose to escalate situation? If the kid was drunk (presuming) then he eventually would have passed out.


28 posted on 10/06/2012 6:55:52 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: Revolting cat!
These kids, raised on unrealistic violent movies, and filled with bipartisan, politically neutral (Kumbaya, comrades!)

Ever seen Sons of Anarchy? Talk about twisted morality. The heroes on that show have murdered dozens of people. (when they aren't running, gun or drugs and pimping.
29 posted on 10/06/2012 6:59:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

One of those actors on that show decided to do it in real life and then committed suicide recently I hear


30 posted on 10/06/2012 7:01:02 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dennisw

Well, I agree with you. He was a freshman. Obviously, he was on something. But, the question is: Did he take it willingly, or was something given to him without his knowledge? Now no one may ever know.


31 posted on 10/06/2012 7:01:08 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: theDentist

How long before the lib-ertarians show up defending drugs?


32 posted on 10/06/2012 7:01:48 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dennisw

We treat the Taliban better than this...


33 posted on 10/06/2012 7:02:43 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: GeronL

Yeah I was thinking about that.


34 posted on 10/06/2012 7:03:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: dennisw

At least if he’s naked, you know he’s unarmed.

A ridiculous over reaction by the LEO.


35 posted on 10/06/2012 7:09:11 PM PDT by Bizhvywt
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To: jonascord
Back when, any 18 year old was an adult. Not any more.

Now they are children until they turn 25...per Obamacare.

36 posted on 10/06/2012 7:11:12 PM PDT by Voltage
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To: dennisw

The kid must have looked like a Labrador Retriever.


37 posted on 10/06/2012 7:11:21 PM PDT by SoDak (Obama..change you can step in.)
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To: dennisw

officer went outside the police station to investigate a banging noise that was coming from his office window
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So the kid was banging on the police station window? Maybe he wanted help, even though he was messed up?

ha! Maybe colleges could use this:
CODA All-Purpose Net Gun

Capture anything from birds to elk with this powerful net gun. Powered by a blank 308 military cartridge (supplied), it swiftly projects a net over your target animal. Ideal where you need to instantly immobilize an animal. May be used alone or in conjunction with chemical capture equipment. Supplied complete with two nets (sized to your requirements), two canisters, padded weights, advanced recoil system, tool kit, instructions, and 100 cartridges. Optional Carry Case recommended. The U.S. federal government classifies the CODA Net Gut as a “tool,” not as a firearm.


38 posted on 10/06/2012 7:16:41 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Paladin2
That's the way I remember it in the 60's.

If you can remember the 60's, you weren't really there.

39 posted on 10/06/2012 7:22:27 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (2012 will be the last constitutional US presidential election.)
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To: dennisw
ya gotta be kiddin me...
40 posted on 10/06/2012 7:23:05 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: dennisw

Another useless doper disposed of!


41 posted on 10/06/2012 7:27:53 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Irenic
So the kid was banging on the police station window? Maybe he wanted help, even though he was messed up?

That does sound like a possibility. (I'm glad someone else said it first.) The article says he was "acting erratically"; he "repeatedly charged" and "rushed in a threatening manner..." That sounds like he never made physical contact.

Maybe he intended to do harm. Or maybe not. Were there no other witnesses?

42 posted on 10/06/2012 7:35:43 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: dennisw

“Authorities said that the officer attempted to retreat several times in an attempt to defuse the situation but that the officer was left with no choice but to shoot when Collar made one final charge.”

Bizarre. If that’s the way it really went down, and I had to guess, I’d say meth or “bath salts” may have been a factor. PCP can sometimes cause that sort of behavior too, but I don’t know if Dust is all that popular these days.

Sad story, either way.


43 posted on 10/06/2012 7:42:10 PM PDT by DemforBush (100% Ex-Democrat.)
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To: dennisw
Might have been intoxicated although the article does not say so. He also could have been a bipolar person having a manic episode. They have been known to run around naked and act crazy too. Time will tell.
44 posted on 10/06/2012 7:44:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: DemforBush

Shooting him made it the final charge


45 posted on 10/06/2012 7:45:41 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Well, the lid did have a gun. ;-)

Other than that, I agree with you.


46 posted on 10/06/2012 7:47:15 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Larry Lucido
Should have gone for his baton first.

*************

Call for backup...??
Taser...
Pepper spray...
Flashlight upside the head....
Blackjack...

************

There are many may many many....
...F'n MANYYYYYYY.....
....non-lethal options for a campus cop dealing with a drunk kid...

47 posted on 10/06/2012 7:50:08 PM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: dennisw

Horrible writing.


48 posted on 10/06/2012 7:53:56 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: dennisw

Idiot reporter alert. Starts out at the University of Alabama, ends up at USA, and no connection in the story between the two schools. It’s clear that no editor saw the story, but you’d think the reporter would read back over it.


49 posted on 10/06/2012 8:06:28 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: RegulatorCountry

” I felt my life was threatened.”

I’m fine with this, but only if EVERYONE can use this line while carrying a gun. Crime would very, very quickly drop to almost nothing.


50 posted on 10/06/2012 8:10:54 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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