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To: Usagi_yo

The issue of the definition of natural born citizen needs a supreme court decision. It’s part of the constitution and needs to be addressed for this president, given the citizenship of his father.

The issue was not addressed during the last nomination and election process. How long does it need to be an open question before the USSC will meet its responsibilities?

The question of location of his birth has not been proven with any degree of openness. Given that he posted what some experts say is a forged document, it it still unanswered. The president needs to authorize the state of Hawaii to open the record for public scrutiny.

You may be okay with leaving these questions unanswered. Those of us who seek the truth and definitive meanings to the constitution are not. The truth is more important that accepting the last election as some type of definitive answer. That was done in 1960 and we should never settle for that.

The other files should be opened also, but I don’t see that as a constitutional issue. However, if it sheds some light on citizenship then they are also critical.

If you don’t need more information that so be it, but step aside while those of us who call for it continue to pursue the truth to our satisfaction. As long as information and decisions are not provided, these questions will be open and the country is worse off for it.


31 posted on 10/07/2012 9:10:22 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: morphing libertarian
"The issue of the definition of natural born citizen needs a supreme court decision. It’s part of the constitution and needs to be addressed for this president, given the citizenship of his father."

Factually correct, contextually wrong. Obama has been certified a natural born citizen by the very act of certifying and seating him as president.

"The issue was not addressed during the last nomination and election process. How long does it need to be an open question before the USSC [SIC] will meet its responsibilities?"

Wrong. Every State Attorney General accepted and agreed that Obama was eligible by their acceptance of his nomination and placement on the Ballot. This issue did not occur in a vacuum as these accusations were started well before Obama's election.

"The question of location of his birth has not been proven with any degree of openness".

Meaningless because of the use of opinion. I can't find a legal definition of 'degree of openness' other than it's Utilitarianism, and -ism subject to it's own argument

"You may be okay with leaving these questions unanswered".

I am not okay with it. I just realize that there is only one constitutional way to remove Obama from the Presidency and that is impeachment. Article 2 section 4 USCON.

I did support efforts to deem him ineligible for the next election, but all those avenues have failed before the courts, multiple times, multiple ways and in every state his eligibility has been challenged.

I believe that this effort has been a failure precisely because the issue has been relegated to the fringe category by those that could have done something but must keep their distance from those trying to 'brute force' the issue with unrealistic expectations and fabrications.

"The truth is more important that accepting the last election as some type of definitive answer. That was done in 1960 and we should never settle for that".

Otherwise known as *pissing* in the sand box. There is a difference between not liking and rational disbelief and 'not liking' has been the loudest voice of this movement and tainted those of us with rational disbelief.

"The other files should be opened also, but I don’t see that as a constitutional issue. However, if it sheds some light on citizenship then they are also critical".

Agreed the judgement on Obama's business and political and decision making acumen is the purvey of the court of public opinion. Those are private documents and and the candidate can choose to release or withhold as they deem fit.

32 posted on 10/07/2012 10:45:17 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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