Posted on 10/06/2012 9:55:21 PM PDT by Kartographer
I personally witnessed what can happen within a very short period of time when food is no longer available to the public. I was in my early twenties, living in Paris, France. Because of an extended truckers’ strike, the food stores were cleared out within 24 hours of the announcement. Within five days, normally law-abiding citizens took to the streets and began threatening anyone who had food… Those with no food quickly crossed the line of sanity and started desperately looking to take food from those who had it by any means necessary. These events were never properly covered by the news media (what a surprise!), but I saw firsthand how uncivilized a so-called “modern country” can become within a matter of days because of a lack of food. If I had not witnessed this myself, I probably would not believe this could happen so easily.
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Someone the other day described what’s happening perfectly; they said it’s like being in a car wreck you are driving along you see a car coming at you he’s not stopping for the red light there’s no place for you to go you know for sure he is going to hit you and then everything slows down like a scene from some action movie the car coming seems to be crawling you can even see the surprise on the other drivers face. When he hits you the flying glass seems to hang in the air for a second and all the time there ain’t a damn thing you can do, but pray you survive.
Personally I we will see something much like the collapse of Argentina ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index )but on a global scale.
As far as the election either way it goes I believe we will soon see social unrest, the closer the election gets the more things will become like walking a mine field and a miss step and things can and will exploded.
Despite the CDC’s tongue and cheek presentation for National Preparedness Month, there really are Zombies, just not the kind from George A. Romero films. They have been fed from the Government’s stash and walked among us for years now and many have been caught on film, but it was in a movie it was for real:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JtPLyYpyyA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4F8ob9nlfY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Ykj92c9v8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnpqBb_7PJ4
These and many more like events show (Flash Mobs, OWS, etc) that we have a large entitlement minded population that is violent prone. I think that during a collapse you will see many small businesses wiped out by flash mob looting, and once started it will quickly spread to rape, robbery and murder for murder sake. You will see what I call ‘pocket pogroms’ and if you ain’t ‘Amish’ you better not be around when they come.
I am very much in agreement of the author of this article about what we can look forward to:
When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2926391/posts
Many of these ‘zombies’ will think no more about killing you to get ‘stuff’ than zombies in the lastest horror flick and do it just as gruesomely as any of the worse scenes in those same movies.
Many of you who have read my post know I often refer to this quote from Star Trek Deep Space Nine: “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine: The Siege of AR-558 (#7.8)” (1998)
Quark: “Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They’re a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don’t believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.”
It has repeated been shown throughout history that this is what happens to people once placed under such stressful conditions and yet you would be surprised how many people don’t realize the transformations that can take place under such conditions. And because of their ignorance many won’t even live long learn.
If you want to learn what happens I suggest you read some of Selco’s firsthand experiences in Bosnia:
A Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In The Middle Of A War Zone
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2798007/posts
Clearly there’s a storm coming, as great as a hurricane and like you do when a hurricane comes your way you either prepare to weather it or you become a victim of it.
For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:
http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf
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For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.
As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”
Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3
“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.”
bfl
One of the great advantages of where I live in the Philippines
is that I do not depend on supermarkets.
I live in the vegetable capital of Cebu, where fruits and veggies are in great abundance, as well as fish, pork, and chicken.
It is very hard to imagine a shortage of food, and being in a warm climate, I do not worry about heat in winter.
I also enjoy a wide range of environments. If I need to leave my beach, I can be on the highest mountain (3100 ft), only 10 km inland.
12 guage pump or semi; 5.56 scoped, 9mm or .357 or .45 cal. Any questions?
The problem with the Philippines is that it is a prime target for Chinese occupation.
We here really feel it’s past time to prepare. We started late - maybe too late.
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The more dangerous problem isn’t that governments collapse, but that they grow too strong for citizens to live freely inside them.
Oh well.
Very good find and very much in line with the weekly prepper thread I posted. Thanks for the post.
Youtube link on the weekly prepper thread.
“The problem with the Philippines is that it is a prime target for Chinese occupation.”
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A dispute over a few islands, the Spratlys , in the south china sea, hardly makes the country subject to invasion and/or takeover by China.
If China even thought that, it would mean world war 3.
Six countries have claims over the Spratlys.
I’ve noticed that outside the city, we have a harder time getting the “just in time inventory” deliveries in normal times so rural areas will lose their deliveries before the cities will in bad times.
"If you believe that Barack Obama, Mitt Romney or Ben Bernanke can somehow magically shield us from the economic shockwave that is coming then you are being delusional."
Sarge, I think a Romney election will only stave off the inevitable for a few more years but it is going to happen. Our society as a whole is fragmenting, balkanizing, and there are segments of it that just don’t see it or don’t care. They are either the leeches who think entitlements are going to come in perpetuity or the blind who are more engaged in watching American Idle or organized sports.
It is going to get violent, very violent. More and more of the officers that I work with are getting their Bugout plan together because there will be a point when the emergency services will be overwhelmed and will walk off the job to save their own families. Citizens MUST recognize this and prepare for it’s eventuality.
I see a future where there will be no food in urban areas and charitable organizations will be overrun. Church food lines will have to have armed men just to keep order and food shipments will get hijacked just like in other 3rd World countries.
We are in for period that American has NEVER seen.
sfl
Your quote here:
More and more of the officers that I work with are getting their Bugout plan together because there will be a point when the emergency services will be overwhelmed and will walk off the job to save their own families.
We've heard this several times from LEO's we know. We've got plans to bug in, deliberate bug-out, hasty bug-out, and evacuate - and when we get them done or added to, we file them and hope we never have to take that folder out of the drawer.
All this, while we're planning a wedding. We need a chainsaw to cut the stress...
Some say if Romney is elected, the economic meltdown will be put off for a few years. I don’t believe that as I think the country is too far gone - the country is already bankrupt and no one can undo that. Add to that the failure of European countries affecting us, plus likely war in the middle east, and it’s a train wreck coming soon, likely next year or could be between now and the end of this year.
I think we don’t have much more time to prepare.
Nothing in 7.62 NATO/.308 Win?
I pray you are wrong that we cannot recover the great nation of America. I also pray that electing Romney will stave things off long enough for me to get better prepared.
“I pray you are wrong that we cannot recover the great nation of America. I also pray that electing Romney will stave things off long enough for me to get better prepared.”
I spend a good deal of my time researching the state of our economy and other countries plus the hot spots of the world. I also have an old time friend who was a bank President and his wife was a bank Vice President. Plus, I have researched why other countries in history who were on the top of the heap, crashed. Every one crashed due to overextending - they didn’t have enough money to keep going so revolt against the government happened when they ran out of money and they crashed.
I have had to come to the conclusion that our country can’t keep going much longer.
Benjamin Franklin knew what would happen when he said, “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”
I sincerely believe we have reached that end.
The trouble is every country is over-extended to some extent. Take away oil revenue and Russia’s economy dies. Americans stop spending and China’s economy is in the crapper.
So when it goes it will be everything at once and people struggle for the remains, leading to world war III. At least that’s my theory.
Unfortunately, I believe the same. As the "gimmes" grow in our nation and around the world, I believe there is no turning back. Morality, values, principles, and self-accountability is losing ground everyday.
That said, I'm 62 years young and willing to be cannon fodder if the SHTF, since I'm not a trained grunt in ground combat. I truly think I will see a revolution, whether from politics or racism or class warfare. It's coming and going to be really ugly. There is no nation on this rock that has as many patriotic gun owners and many WILL defend their Constitutional heritage to their dying breath. I would be honored to walk point.
I sincerely hope this will never happen, but it will take a miracle to change the mentality of the "gimmes". I just don't see it happening. Good luck, Sir. Maybe we'll both die before it happens, but then I have children who will have to deal with it.
You said you are 62. Compared to me, you are a youngster. I am a prepper and will have a comfortable personal world if the rest of the world collapses. I don't intend for a collapse to kill me. I am female and anyway, too old for the front lines, but I could medically attend you if you were wounded. Just yell out when wounded and I'll be there.
You and I have lived through the best US years. Now, we are facing the worst, perhaps the downfall of this country. It is terribly sad, but reality is reality.
Yes. Do you call the police afterwards, or just start shoveling if they don't show up to take a report within an hour?
I'm a mite gray around the muzzle for hopping around in the boonies for any length of time, too. Which is why I have been working on some long distance skills, requiring a less tactical approach to movement.
Similarly, pick a skill or two which might be arcane but important (cobbler, for instance, but any of a dozen half-century 'obsolete' skills) and learn what you can. Practice. Our only real chances of survival come from being able to give something to a community, not just as individuals.
In the long run, people are going to have to band together to get by--and to defend what they rebuild.
I have no idea about costs and where else such things as buckets and containers can be had, but I order from these guys for most things.
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