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The Second Siege of Vienna
The Gates of Vienna ^ | 10/07/2012

Posted on 10/08/2012 3:32:39 PM PDT by liege

This looks like it may be an interesting movie; coming out Friday the 12th in Poland, hopefully here soon.


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1 posted on 10/08/2012 3:32:40 PM PDT by liege
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To: liege

Here’s the link for the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ieF14f_qnhc


2 posted on 10/08/2012 3:34:45 PM PDT by liege (I'll pay more for tomatoes...or lettuce.)
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To: liege

Wonder if it will touch off riots in the Middle East?


3 posted on 10/08/2012 3:36:20 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill

That was my first thought as well.


4 posted on 10/08/2012 3:37:15 PM PDT by liege (I'll pay more for tomatoes...or lettuce.)
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To: liege

Was this dubbed in English, or was it filmed in English? It looks good - I hope it’s released in the states at some point. How prophetic - Sept. 11?


5 posted on 10/08/2012 3:48:44 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Fiji Hill

Fought on September 11, 1683, so next year on 9/11 will be the 330th anniversary.


6 posted on 10/08/2012 3:49:10 PM PDT by Argus
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To: liege

Been waiting awhile for this one. Hope they did a good job on it.


7 posted on 10/08/2012 3:50:22 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: FrdmLvr

If Hussein is still President, he’ll probably ban it. As he said at the UN, there’s no future for those who insult the prophet of Islam.


8 posted on 10/08/2012 3:51:24 PM PDT by Argus
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To: FrdmLvr

Based on the trailer it looks to have been filmed in English with Polish subtitles. But maybe it was dubbed. If so it was dubbed well.


9 posted on 10/08/2012 3:57:08 PM PDT by liege (I'll pay more for tomatoes...or lettuce.)
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To: liege

The Winged Hussars!!!!!!!!!


10 posted on 10/08/2012 4:03:41 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Argus
Fought on September 11, the defeat of the Muslims in this battle marked the end of their expansion into Europe, and the beginning of their long decline. Islam needed expansion and new sources of loot and slaves in order to maintain itself, and without new conquests is fell into stagnation.

Islam only rose again after it gained access to a new form of unearned wealth -- oil.

Looking at this, I have a feeling that this particular date was chosen for Osama's 9/11 attacks because of this battle, with the 9/11 attack being the opening battle of the resumption of the war of Islamic expansion.

11 posted on 10/08/2012 4:18:10 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Charlie Daniels - Payback Time http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWwTJj_nosI)
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To: liege

Except for F. Murray Abraham all of the actors and the entire production seem to be Polish. Which is wonderful. A Hollywood production would probably portray the Janissary horde as the good guys. This film and a reminder of the history of this endless (1,400 years) war is very timely.


12 posted on 10/08/2012 4:22:08 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: liege

Movie watching bookmark.


13 posted on 10/08/2012 4:23:38 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: liege

Very interesting. Happen to be reading John Stoye’s “The Siege of Vienna” right now. Did not know this was in the works.


14 posted on 10/08/2012 4:42:38 PM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: liege

It’s easy to NOT understand the timing of this. This was NOT the Dark Ages. This was the late 17th Century. By this time, England had thriving colonies in the New World, and Newton was hard at work, getting the final mathematical pieces in place to launch the Industrial Revolution.

This was Vienna, Austria, not a little podunk town in the sticks. If this city fell, that was the end of Central Europe (they were “it” at the time), and probably the end of the rest of Europe. And believe me, there would not be an Internet, or even computers, today.

This is an AMAZING story and I’m glad to see Poland, rather than Hollywood is re-telling it.


15 posted on 10/08/2012 4:46:14 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: katana

A Hollywood production would be horrible, unless its made by Mel Gibson.


16 posted on 10/08/2012 4:47:18 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: liege

I visited Vienna again last time. Took my 26 year old son (2nd Lt.) to the top of the Kahlen Berg from which King Jan Sobieski launched his charge of Winged Hussars. There is a great little church up there with a wonderful monument to the Poles and their king (to whom we are all indebted).

Oldplayer


17 posted on 10/08/2012 5:08:33 PM PDT by oldplayer
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To: liege

With all due respect, the 1683 siege is somewhat exaggerated in importance. The Turks had in fact been in decline, relative to Europe, economically and militarily, since at least 1600.

Had they indeed taken Vienna, they would have been completely unable to hold it, as it was quite literally as far as they could travel in a campaigning season from their base in Constantinople. Logistics made holding Vienna quite impossible for them.

The Siege was a classic example of imperial overstretch, where the empire over-extends itself and causes its own collapse. That the empire was not indeed healthy and just barely defeated can be easily seen by the great Turkish losses of territory over the ensuing 15 years of war.

The first Siege, in 1529, was a much more dangerous time for Europe and the West, as the West was much weaker relative to the Ottomans at the time, and might indeed not have been able to withstand continued Muslims assault.


18 posted on 10/08/2012 5:12:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: liege

I suspect that this may be yet another Polish production of one of Sienkiewicz’ historical novels.

It may be this one -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Field_of_Glory

The Poles have produced quite a lot of Sienkiewicz’ stuff. Full of melodrama and cavalry charges. Lots of great cinema material there. From what I’ve seen quite faithful to the books, though the Polish productions were sometimes a bit underfunded.


19 posted on 10/08/2012 5:24:36 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: Sherman Logan
I don't disagree with anything you are saying. But I do think the important point to take away from all this is that people over 300 years ago stood up and fought back in order to keep their freedom.

Freedom is that important.

20 posted on 10/08/2012 5:57:23 PM PDT by liege (I'll pay more for tomatoes...or lettuce.)
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To: liege; Charles Henrickson; mikrofon
The Second Siege of Vienna

Because previously, Vienna SawSiege.

21 posted on 10/08/2012 6:00:52 PM PDT by martin_fierro (Ich bin ein pork weiner)
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To: liege

I’ll buy that.


22 posted on 10/08/2012 6:00:52 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: martin_fierro
Because previously, Vienna SawSiege.

You'll smoke a turd in Hell for that one, Fierro!

23 posted on 10/08/2012 6:14:02 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Looks to be a good movie.

I highly recommend the 5 part series on YouTube:

The Siege of Vienna 1/5

There is a lot of good stuff on YouTube about this topic.
24 posted on 10/08/2012 6:21:22 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: liege

As Sobieski entered St Stephans Cathederal to strands of its choir singing the Te Deum rockets were fired from its spires sigaling the defeat of the Turks...from a story review I did in 7th grade at Immaculate Conception grammar school 1944 (Chicago Bridgeport)


25 posted on 10/08/2012 6:29:36 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (The best way to punish a - country is let professors run it. Fredrick the Great para/p)
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