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Colo. Governor: ‘Lincoln Wasn’t a Great Debater’
The Washington Free Beacon ^ | 10/8/2012 | Patrick1

Posted on 10/08/2012 5:48:51 PM PDT by Patrick1

Gov. John Hickenlooper (D) said Monday that Abraham Lincoln “wasn’t a great debater” during a visit to the Obama campaign field office in Denver, Colo., according to Denver West Word reporter Sam Levin.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: abrahamlincoln; colorado; johnhickenlooper; stupid
Desperate and stupid is no way to go through life Governor.
1 posted on 10/08/2012 5:48:58 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Patrick1

But, Obama is no Lincoln. He’s doesn’t even stack up to what Lincoln left in the outhouse.


2 posted on 10/08/2012 5:50:42 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Patrick1

The Obamadork cannot speak coherently without the aid of a telepromptor.

Hickenlooper cannot speak coherently no matter what the help.

Disregard all this idiot says. Heck, he even makes Biden seem intelligent.

Colorado’s Repulsican party is way beyond dead, and you can observe the results of an unfettered dim-bulb-crat party when HICK-en-looper opens his pie hole.


3 posted on 10/08/2012 5:55:24 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Patrick1

Actually Abe was one of the finest speakers of his time.

No teleprompter needed.


4 posted on 10/08/2012 5:55:57 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Patrick1
Dear Gov Chickenpooper,

We hear you're a Master d'bater.

5 posted on 10/08/2012 5:57:29 PM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Patrick1

6 posted on 10/08/2012 5:57:58 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Patrick1

Hickenlooper has always been an idiot... further proof unnecessary


7 posted on 10/08/2012 5:58:40 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Patrick1

Yeah, I guess that’s why Lincoln’s debates have been largely forgotten and haven’t had any impact on high school forensic arts.


8 posted on 10/08/2012 5:58:57 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Patrick1

I guess the Lincoln Douglas debates were all hype?

” Lincoln and Douglas agreed to debate in seven of the nine Illinois Congressional Districts; the seven where Douglas had not already spoken. In each debate either Douglas or Lincoln would open with an hour address. The other would then speak for an hour and a half. The first then had 30 minutes of rebuttal. In the seven debates, Douglas, as the incumbent, was allowed to go first four times. “

http://www.nps.gov/liho/historyculture/debates.htm


9 posted on 10/08/2012 5:59:35 PM PDT by cruise_missile (')
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To: Patrick1

Lincoln is by far the most written about person in
American history. There may be a historian or two
who makes the claim that Abe was not a great debater.
One thing that Lincoln definitely was not was a leader
who led from behind.


10 posted on 10/08/2012 6:00:06 PM PDT by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: VanDeKoik; Patrick1
Actually Abe was one of the finest speakers of his time.

No teleprompter needed.

And writer!

11 posted on 10/08/2012 6:00:14 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Patrick1

I guess the Governor came to that conclusion after seeing the debates on YouTube.


12 posted on 10/08/2012 6:04:13 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Patrick1

Neither was Carter. Think about it, BHO.


13 posted on 10/08/2012 6:04:34 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Patrick1

Lincoln determined the best thing for blacks was freedom from slavery...Obamugabe is determined to make men of ALL races enslaved to government.

So there is a huge difference between the two.


14 posted on 10/08/2012 6:07:00 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Patrick1

Yeah, so much of what the kenyan says sounds like the Gettysburg Address to me /s


15 posted on 10/08/2012 6:07:53 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Hopey changey low emission unicorns and a crap sandwich)
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To: Patrick1

The reason those debates were relatively Earth-shattering around the US was due to a new innovation: the telegraph.

The entire debates (with a little bit of partisan editing) were published within days in all the major cities. For once, the public had a detailed, complex grasp of the great political issues of the day.

It also split the country down the middle. Suddenly that vast undecided majority knew which side they supported, and had arguments on behalf of their beliefs.

Truthfully, Lincoln did lose, as Douglas was elected senator. However, Lincoln had become a national celebrity and the voice of his political party. He lost the senate and won the presidency.

The debates achieved immortality when Lincoln himself compiled them in book form, which transcended the tenuous nature of newspaper reporting. As such, they have become a fundamental document of the republic.


16 posted on 10/08/2012 6:08:45 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (DIY Bumper Sticker: "THREE TIMES,/ DEMOCRATS/ REJECTED GOD")
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To: theDentist

I thought that was Gov Chickenchoker.


17 posted on 10/08/2012 6:09:05 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Patrick1

Geeez. DemocRATS have all gone over the edge. This guy is a moron. Comparing Barack Hussein Obama with Abraham Lincoln? Are you kidding me? Loopy really needs to MoveOn.


18 posted on 10/08/2012 6:09:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Algore. It was attitude, NOT altitude.)
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To: BCR #226
"But, Obama is no Lincoln. He’s doesn’t even stack up to what Lincoln left in the outhouse."

I checked in to leave a brilliant comment.......but I'll second yours. Well stated!!!

19 posted on 10/08/2012 6:11:57 PM PDT by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: Patrick1
Colo. Governor: ‘Lincoln Wasn’t a Great Debater’

Say what?

20 posted on 10/08/2012 6:14:08 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: VanDeKoik
"...Actually Abe was one of the finest speakers of his time.

No teleprompter needed."

Lincoln's teleprompter was writing his speech on the flat side of an axe head with a hunk of chalk, then staking the axe into the ground by it's handle.

21 posted on 10/08/2012 6:17:48 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: Patrick1
Joe Biden will disagree and say Lincoln was a great debater. Joe Biden will have memories of hearing Lincoln speak.
22 posted on 10/08/2012 6:18:09 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Patrick1

...but President Lincoln DID end the Civi War in less time than the Kenyan pretender has been in office. And spent less doing it!


23 posted on 10/08/2012 6:26:46 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: Patrick1

That’s why the Lincoln - Douglas debates were so famous.


24 posted on 10/08/2012 6:27:38 PM PDT by CMAC51
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Didn’t Biden see Abe on TV like FDR? (Of course Abe was in re-runs)


25 posted on 10/08/2012 6:37:03 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Patrick1

If not by doing well in the Lincoln-Douglas debates, how does Governor Hickenlooper think Abraham Lincoln won the presidency — by taking money from Tony Rezko and the teachers unions?


26 posted on 10/08/2012 6:38:21 PM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: CMAC51
There is a monument in my town where one took place. Will there be a monument to this fool standing in 150 years?
27 posted on 10/08/2012 6:39:49 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: Patrick1

Another uninformed Democrat heard from. These are the people who think they should be running your life.


28 posted on 10/08/2012 6:49:30 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Patrick1
Colo. Governor: ‘Lincoln Wasn’t a Great Debater’

Perhaps but at least he could grow a beard....................

29 posted on 10/08/2012 6:57:23 PM PDT by varon (I remember when America was American.)
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To: Farmer Dean
Ah, you're right.
see tagline
30 posted on 10/08/2012 6:57:37 PM PDT by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Patrick1

I don’t know if this is true or not.

Lincoln participated in the most famous debates in our history, they might be pretty famous world wide even.

Lincoln lost the election to Stephen Douglas, but how about the debates? Who was judged the winner?

And you know, more on point to the Governor - pre-TV age so whole ‘nother kettle of fish!


31 posted on 10/08/2012 7:02:43 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: popdonnelly

And the kind that pushed obamacare through....

“What the blank could possibly go wrong?”

http://video.foxnews.com/v/1872837423001/politician-sums-up-her-views-on-obamacare-in-one-sentence/?playlist_id=87249&intcmp=obinsite


32 posted on 10/08/2012 7:13:31 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: jocon307

They better zip it - they are giving lots of ammo to Romney. Hopefully, he will give them a lesson on Lincoln!


33 posted on 10/08/2012 7:15:49 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: varon

“Colo. Governor: ‘Lincoln Wasn’t a Great Debater’

Perhaps but at least he could grow a beard.................... “

Too funny for words!

Hussein Obama had to marry his beard.


34 posted on 10/08/2012 8:07:49 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: Patrick1

Bill Clinton is a master baiter.


35 posted on 10/08/2012 8:14:25 PM PDT by RichInOC (An erect Bill Clinton has no conscience.)
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To: Patrick1

Lincoln determined the best thing for blacks was freedom from slavery...Obamugabe is determined to make men of ALL races enslaved to government.

So there is a huge difference between the two.


36 posted on 10/09/2012 2:14:06 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Patrick1
Desperate and stupid is no way to go through life Governor.

Time to put him on double secret probation.

37 posted on 10/09/2012 3:09:33 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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