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Obama 'believed he had BEATEN Romney' in Denver debate - after ignoring advice of top aides
dailymail.co.uk ^ | Oct 9, 2012 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 10/09/2012 8:09:20 PM PDT by ransomnote

Obama believes he'd got the better of Romney as he walked off stage to the dismay of his aides, according to a Democrat close to the campaign The President failed to prepare properly, opting instead to visit the Hoover Dam the day before the showdown Democrat claims he was so disdainful of Romney that he didn't think he needed to even engage with him Had one-liners on 47% prepared but chose not to use them

When President Barack Obama stepped off the stage in Denver last week the 60 million Americans watching the debate against Mitt Romney already knew it had been a disaster for him.

But what nobody knew, until now, was that Obama believed he had actually won.

In an extraordinary insight into the events leading up to the 90 minute showdown which changed the face of the election, a Democrat close to the Obama campaign today reveals that the President also did not take his debate preparation seriously, ignored the advice of senior aides and ignored one-liners that had been prepared to wound Romney.

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Hubris: Obama's central problem was that he was so disdainful of Romney that the President, seen here boarding Air Force One in San Francisco today, didn't believe he needed to engage with him

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A winning smile? Obama grins durign the debate with Romney full of confidence that he was going to win

The Democrat said that Obama's inner circle was dismayed at the 'disaster' and that he believed the central problem was that the President was so disdainful of Romney that he didn't believe he needed to engage with him.

'President Obama made it clear he wanted to be doing anything else - anything - but debate prep,' the Democrat said.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: debate; obama; romney; veryoldnews
'He went into the debate armed with a number of one-liners to throw at Romney, including at least two about Romney not caring about 47 per cent of the country. But he decided not to use them.'

Photos and more text at the link. PS: Did Obama 'decide not to use them' or was he too ashamed that he froze and was incapable of delivering rehearsed lines?

1 posted on 10/09/2012 8:09:27 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Had to cut last two words of article title to fit FR requirements. Original title:

Obama ‘believed he had BEATEN Romney’ in Denver debate - after ignoring advice of top aides on preparation


2 posted on 10/09/2012 8:10:38 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

Zero is about this close to needing a trip to the funny farm.


3 posted on 10/09/2012 8:10:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: ransomnote

Oh please. I am so tired of hearing excuses from this loser.


4 posted on 10/09/2012 8:11:09 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

In order to defeat my mortal enemies I focus intently on my navel.

If that doesn’t work I suck my thumb.


5 posted on 10/09/2012 8:12:55 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: ransomnote

He actually thought he won.

He his so out of touch with reality.


6 posted on 10/09/2012 8:15:21 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ransomnote

The man reads a great speech, but can’t think on his feet worth a darn. He needed TOTUS to talk to school children.


7 posted on 10/09/2012 8:16:04 PM PDT by verga (Forced to remove tag line by administrator)
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To: ransomnote
Barry needs to steal some of Rimshot Joe's gaffes for the next debate like...

Why did the chicken cross the road?

Because Romney was trying to take away his government subsidy.

8 posted on 10/09/2012 8:16:29 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Sorry Algore. It was attitude, NOT altitude.)
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To: ransomnote

Arrogance at its worst!


9 posted on 10/09/2012 8:17:00 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Nice one!


10 posted on 10/09/2012 8:17:21 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: ransomnote

It’s clear that he has the same disdain for the constitution, the congress and the American people and would rather be doing anything...anything...other than being the President.

Let’s make his wish come true come November 7.


11 posted on 10/09/2012 8:18:32 PM PDT by albionin
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To: MrChips
Exactly right. It's a bunch of baloney and nothing more than the latest strand of excuse spaghetti to be thrown up against the wall of public opinion to see if it will stick.

He didn't think he won. He clearly says "you won" to Romney at the end of the debate. Now his flaks hit the airwaves with stories that he thought Romney was so inferior he fought him with one hand tied behind his back and thought he'd won. Pure bollocks.

12 posted on 10/09/2012 8:18:54 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Christianity, as opposed to whatever it is the Episcopalians are.)
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To: One Name

It should be called the Grand Strategy to Certainly Defeat All Enemies, Improve the Economy and feed the Children.


13 posted on 10/09/2012 8:18:54 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: ransomnote

Now what has Obama been “smoking” something for him to say that?

It is that he did not know what hit him.


14 posted on 10/09/2012 8:19:10 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: ransomnote

This article is disturbing for just so many reasons.

I think the most prescient part of the story is that when faced with preparing to defend a pass/fail moment assessment of his Presidency that Obama decided to go to Hoover Dam instead.

Doesn’t that just sum up everything about the man? Golf too much, vacation too much, “Can’t I just eat my waffle?”.


15 posted on 10/09/2012 8:20:18 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: ransomnote

Several of the other threads on this might answer your questions.


16 posted on 10/09/2012 8:20:22 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: ransomnote

Rush was on top of this, today.


17 posted on 10/09/2012 8:24:14 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: ransomnote

obama has lived a life of a steady adoring choir to preach to and the protection of his skirts in the media and political establishment.

i predict he will attempt cheap shots to try to rile Romney in 2nd debate.

he’s got nothng, tho, without his adoring skirts to make it all better.


18 posted on 10/09/2012 8:24:44 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: ransomnote

Even Michelle didn’t look like she thought he won.


19 posted on 10/09/2012 8:27:43 PM PDT by cruise_missile (')
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To: GeronL

When I was in college debate class, I had to prep for a debate the next day that represented one tenth of my final grade. I chose to spend the night before partying with friends in the student commons. The next day, I walked into class wholly unprepared, and when it was time for me to take the podium to deliver opening arguments for the “negative” side of the question, I simply said, “There’s nothing I can say to refute my opponent’s excellent opening remarks regarding the question before us” and then sat down.

Obama should have done the same and saved us all 90 minutes of watching him being bludgeoned like a baby fur seal.

Rodney King wasn’t beaten as badly.


20 posted on 10/09/2012 8:28:50 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: GeronL

If only I could learn to shuck crawdads like you guys...

I parked myself next to the biggest boy with a full plate down in Biloxi once and watched in amazement.

Do I need to get my teeth filed, or some such?


21 posted on 10/09/2012 8:29:48 PM PDT by One Name (Ultimately, the TRUTH is a razor's edge and no man can sit astride it.)
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To: ransomnote
The Audacity of Hubris.

Definition of KINKY: Watching you husband getting spanked for 90 minutes on network TV on your 20th anniversary.

22 posted on 10/09/2012 8:30:52 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: ransomnote

BIG BIRD YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTARD !


23 posted on 10/09/2012 8:33:15 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: ransomnote

Actually, all I can think is that if this is the way he prepares for a debate in front of 60 million people - against his worst enemy - what the hell is he saying to our allies and enemies?

Oh. I guess we’ve seen the results of that.

A few too many times.


24 posted on 10/09/2012 8:33:17 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: ransomnote

It’s probably true because he was counting on the spon meisters to convince the viewing public that Obama won. The only problem, the beat down was so large that it could not be spun to an Obama victory.


25 posted on 10/09/2012 8:35:08 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: Voter62vb
After Bush took down saddam, I opined, somewhere, maybe here, why didn't the people of Iraq arise and take care of that loathsome dictator themselves?

I blamed the people of Iraq for tolerating such a fool and wasting American lives. Why were we taking care of their problem? why did they not arise and dispose of that loathsome creature?

Who will say that of the United States?

Why didn't we dispose of this despot - this obamanation?

26 posted on 10/09/2012 8:36:12 PM PDT by KittenClaws (You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: ransomnote

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practice to deceive

Sir Walter Scott (1771-1832)


27 posted on 10/09/2012 8:36:32 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: ransomnote
So who got to tell him he was/is a loser? I do believe that Obama was convinced that his OccupyWallStreet street activism mortally wounded Mitt as a viable opponent. Liberals do believe their own press propaganda.
28 posted on 10/09/2012 8:36:55 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Please help Todd Akin defeat Claire and the GOP-e send money!!!!!)
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To: ransomnote

This is the sort of thing that afflicts you when you surround yourself with sycophants and yes-men


29 posted on 10/09/2012 8:37:13 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: JohnBrowdie

“This is the sort of thing that afflicts you when you surround yourself with sycophants and yes-men.”

Or when you’ve been handed everything you’ve ever gotten without having to work a day in your life for it.

Hence why he is called our “affirmative action president.”


30 posted on 10/09/2012 8:40:01 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Big Bird has flown the democrat coop.


31 posted on 10/09/2012 8:46:04 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: ransomnote

That explains O’s ridiculous smile while Mooch looked like she had just eaten something really nasty ( maybe one of her school lunches?).

The man is delusional. Captain Quigg was more mentally fit for duty


32 posted on 10/09/2012 8:50:39 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Delta Dawn
Big Bird has flown the democrat coop and the plantation to freedom....

33 posted on 10/09/2012 8:50:56 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: ransomnote
Contrast that with the way Mitt Romney prepared. He spent countless hours with folks like Senator Rob Portman, who grilled, mocked, did everything to fluster and intimidate Romney...all to get him ready for the night. Romney himself said that the debate practice was much harder than the debate itself.

It reminded me of how hard I had to practice before football season in high school. We'd go out there and I'd sweat 10-16 pounds of sweat away in practice, and be dead tired afterward. However, when the season started we were the best-conditioned team in the State and we won the championship.

34 posted on 10/09/2012 9:00:49 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Obama does not have the work ethic to be Anti-Christ.)
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To: MuttTheHoople

When you’ve spent as many years as Obama has thinking you’ve pulled the wool over people’s eyes, it’s easy to believe you’ve done it again just by showing up.

Obama is a buffoon.


35 posted on 10/09/2012 9:05:32 PM PDT by Stingray (Stand for the truth or you'll fall for anything.)
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To: ransomnote
A winning smile? Obama grins durign the debate with Romney full of confidence that he was going to win

the grin was too much-inappropriate. I wonder about his mental stability.

36 posted on 10/09/2012 10:01:12 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: ransomnote
You know, we may NEVER see another "Chicago Gang" Democratic running for President or even as a running mate for a Presidential nominee ever again. The next Democratic Presidential nominee will likely be a former state governor--both Carter and Clinton were former state governors.
37 posted on 10/09/2012 10:08:29 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: ransomnote
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38 posted on 10/09/2012 10:08:56 PM PDT by 1035rep (Obama: "I killed Bin Laden" ...you didn't do that. Somebody else made that happen.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Romney should hire his own security. I am serious. He is gonna get the Breitbart ‘solution’. Obama doesn’t lose.


39 posted on 10/09/2012 10:15:18 PM PDT by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: tuckrdout

Depends on the supporting cast. Obama is just a prop. It’s possible the “shadow people” may decide this is not the right time to go for broke, and I think they would be right. I don’t like Romney but I hope he can avoid harm.


40 posted on 10/09/2012 10:30:33 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: ransomnote

One word - NARCISSIST!


41 posted on 10/09/2012 10:50:32 PM PDT by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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To: tuckrdout
Romney should hire his own security. I am serious. He is gonna get the Breitbart ‘solution’. Obama doesn’t lose.

You betcha!

42 posted on 10/09/2012 10:56:01 PM PDT by blondee123 (Our country is headed for DICTATORSHIP! WAKE UP!)
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To: 1035rep

Hahahahahahahahahaha


43 posted on 10/09/2012 11:27:23 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: ransomnote
Obama 'believed he had BEATEN Romney' in Denver debate...

LOL! He'll probably wake up on November 7th believing he also won the election, even though the results show the opposite.

44 posted on 10/10/2012 1:13:08 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: ransomnote

It must suck to be a super narcissist.


45 posted on 10/10/2012 5:36:03 AM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: ransomnote

‘One liners’

Did “O” actually think that the President of the United States of America should engage a challenger to his office with ‘one liners’?

Is that all he could bring to the debate after four years in office?

“O” is a moron and WAY out of his element!


46 posted on 10/10/2012 6:26:50 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: steve86

I did search before posting and nothing came up. It seems a few people hadn’t seen it and posted. No harm no foul.


47 posted on 10/10/2012 6:46:52 AM PDT by ransomnote
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