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Angst grows among President Obama's supporters
politico.com ^ | 10/10/2012 | Glen Thrush

Posted on 10/10/2012 9:06:53 AM PDT by Signalman

First came the nausea. Then came the anxiety.

After months of watching Mitt Romney twist in the media glare, a growing number of President Barack Obama’s supporters — though confined for now to a noisy minority of liberals — are peering into the Obama-might-actually-lose abyss for the first time after last week’s disastrous first debate.

Some progressives seem to be going into primal panic mode — to the profound annoyance of the Democratic professional political class and an Obama campaign predicting a rebound at next Tuesday’s debate in Long Island.

“That’s my party: Irrational overconfidence followed by irrational despair,” quipped veteran Democratic political consultant Jim Jordan, summing up the view of Obama’s campaign and a half-dozen top Democratic aides interviewed for this story.

But a lot of Democrats are somewhere in between — they simply can’t believe Obama could be that bad again. Or could he?

“My honest and truthful answer is Democrats are not panicked — and I’m not exactly sure why,” said longtime Clinton adviser James Carville, who thinks Obama will still win. “Maybe I’m being silly here, but I’ve talked to a lot of people today and everybody’s saying the same thing. … Should I be more concerned than I am?

“We’re all trying to talk ourselves into a state of panic, and we’re not quite there yet.”

The quick shift in the poll numbers in the week after the debate illustrates the volatility of the race in general — and the dangers of assuming that the outcome hinges on a tiny number of undecided moderates in swing states who will use the debates as a guide. Romney’s surge, especially among previously Obama-friendly subgroups, suggests a much more fluid electorate — a dangerous dynamic for an Obama campaign that has trumpeted the “stability” of the race in the battleground states.

Insiders see Obama’s flop as turbulence, unsettling but hardly fatal, and say their internal polling shows erosion but not anything approaching collapse.

A handful of liberal pundits — amplifying the visceral reactions of the party’s liberal base to the debate and Obama’s subsequent dip in the polls — think the plane is plunging into a cliff. They have found their muse in Daily Beast columnist Andrew Sullivan, whom Obama reads regularly and was once invited to a White House state dinner.

“Did Obama just throw away the election?” Sullivan wrote in a widely read column posted Monday night, which drew 21,000 Facebook likes within a few hours.

Sullivan, a political iconoclast who supports the president, became agitated after the release of a Pew poll Monday showing Romney vaulting 4 points ahead of Obama — a 12-point swing among likely voters since last month.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2012; 2012polls; angst; democrats; fearfuldems; liberals; politico; progressives

1 posted on 10/10/2012 9:07:02 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Nothing would make me happier than every liberal in the nation in tears on election night.


2 posted on 10/10/2012 9:15:04 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Ditto.


3 posted on 10/10/2012 9:17:00 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

If they stopped feeding their minds with fantasies about how evil Romney is, perhaps they wouldn’t feel so bad.


4 posted on 10/10/2012 9:20:00 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The first priority is get Obama out of the White House.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

I am tempted to act like Cartman licking the tears of his enemy in South Park.


5 posted on 10/10/2012 9:21:45 AM PDT by arrogantsob (The Disaster MUST Go. Sarah herself supports Romney.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
"Nothing would make me happier than every liberal in the nation in tears on election night."

The only thing that would be better would be mass suicide...

6 posted on 10/10/2012 9:22:45 AM PDT by BlueLancer (You cannot conquer a free man. The most you can do is kill him. (R. Heinlein - "If This Goes On"))
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Nothing would make me happier than every liberal in the nation in tears  jumping off bridges  on election night

/.02

7 posted on 10/10/2012 9:28:08 AM PDT by tomkat (call it a grudge)
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To: tomkat

Glen. THE LEFT IS DELUSIONAL. That includes you. They have been getting high on skewered polls and MSM spin for months. When they got B slapped into a state of TEMPORARY REALITY by Mitt they became completely unglued. Mitt is now ahead even in the skewered polls. It will not be close in November.


8 posted on 10/10/2012 9:36:49 AM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: Signalman
I'd love to watch another Jonestown purple kool-aid broadcast live on msnbc the night of the obama ass whoopen.

Just drink the poison, lie down, feel the final tinkle go down your leg, quiver and die.

God forgive me, I love the smell of napalm in the morning.

9 posted on 10/10/2012 9:39:29 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages, start today.)
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To: Signalman
“That’s my party: Irrational overconfidence followed by irrational despair,” quipped veteran Democratic political consultant Jim Jordan

"Irrational" is the epitome of Democrats.

10 posted on 10/10/2012 9:42:07 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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Surely people like Carville see the writing on the wall in the poll internals. The enthusiasm gap, Party ID and Obama lagging 2008 in energy and early turnout...while Romney is clearly ahead of McLame’s pace in energy and voting.


11 posted on 10/10/2012 9:44:35 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“Nothing would make me happier than every liberal in the nation in tears on election night.”

My sister swears that Chrissy Matthews had been crying during/after the debate last week. To me, it looked like he’d been hitting the bottle. Many bottles, actually.


12 posted on 10/10/2012 9:45:18 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Signalman

13 posted on 10/10/2012 9:47:40 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“...every liberal in the nation in tears....”

As well they should be. And not just on Election night.

No matter which way the election eventually goes, liberals shall end up weeping. In one instance, if they should lose the election, and the other, if, somehow, they should happen to win the election. For they are sure to be disappointed with the disillusionment that shall ensue, as the rest of the schemes of this regime, by now entrenched and never to be moved by entreaties or complaints made by their erstwhile supporters, are revealed and brought to bear down on those who were of wavering faith, or not sufficiently vigorous, or those who thought the license was more broad than what shall be allowed.

Tears of regret, tears of frustration, tears of boiling rage. But never, ever, a tear shed in contrition for the great evil they bring to a once great nation.


14 posted on 10/10/2012 9:48:03 AM PDT by alloysteel ("You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity".)
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To: Crimson Elephant
Surely people like Carville see the writing on the wall in the poll internals.

This Carville? Ya really think he gets it? :-)


15 posted on 10/10/2012 9:57:09 AM PDT by Nervous Tick ("You can ignore reality, but you can't ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.")
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To: Signalman
As cruel as it might be I'd love to read of scores,and scores,and scores of suicides among Osama Obama supporters if he loses.I'd particularly enjoy hearing of top advisers and showbiz types being found hanging in their basements on Wednesday morning.
16 posted on 10/10/2012 10:03:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: Signalman

Source: Roll Call

The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s independent expenditure arm is shifting TV buys in a series of races, as the House battleground map continues to evolve.

The DCCC has cut ad buys Oct. 23-29 in four districts where the Democratic nominee is seen as having a comfortable lead, according to a party source with knowledge of the buys:
•Arizona’s 2nd district, where Rep. Ron Barber (D) faces Republican Martha McSally
•Florida’s new 9th district, where former Rep. Alan Grayson (D) faces Republican Todd Long
•Florida’s 26th district, where embattled Rep. David Rivera (R), reportedly under federal investigation, faces Democrat Joe Garcia
•New Mexico’s open 1st district, where Democrat Michelle Lujan Grisham faces Republican Janice Arnold-Jones

The committee has also cut ad buys Oct. 23-29 in seats that look like steep climbs in November. It’s viewed as a harrowing sign for the Democrats running in these districts:
•Florida’s 16th district, where Rep. Vern Buchanan (R) faces Democrat Keith Fitzgerald
•Iowa’s 4th district, where Rep. Steve King (R) faces Democrat Christie Vilsack (though this race is probably the most competitive for Democrats of this bunch)
•Indiana’s open 2nd district, where Democrat Brendan Mullen faces Republican Jackie Walorski
•North Carolina’s 8th district, where vulnerable Rep. Larry Kissell (D) faces Republican Richard Hudson
•North Dakota’s open at-large district, where Democrat Pam Gulleson faces Republican Kevin Cramer
•Ohio’s 7th district, where where Rep. Bob Gibbs (R) faces Democrat Joyce Healy-Abrams
•Ohio’s 10th district, where Rep. Mike Turner (R) faces Democrat Sharen Neuhardt
•Virginia’s 2nd district, where Rep. Scott Rigell (R) faces Democrat Paul Hirschbiel
•Wisconsin’s 8th district, where Rep. Reid Ribble (R) faces Democrat Jamie Wall

Democrats have moved the newly freed-up resources to the following districts, which the committee would appear to be increasingly bullish on:
•California’s 36th district, where Rep. Mary Bono Mack (R) faces Democrat Raul Ruiz
•Connecticut’s open 5th district, where Democrat Elizabeth Esty faces Republican Andrew Roraback
•Illinois’ open 12th district, where Democrat Bill Enyart faces Republican Jason Plummer
•Illinois’ open 13th district, where Democrat David Gill faces Republican Rodney Davis
•Illinois’ 17th district, where Rep. Bobby Schilling (R) faces Democrat Cheri Bustos
•Minnesota’s 8th district, where Rep. Chip Cravaack (R) face Democrat Rick Nolan
•New York’s 19th district, where Rep. Chris Gibson (R) faces Democrat Julian Schreibman
•New York’s 21st district, where Rep. Bill Owens (D) faces Republican Matt Doheny
•New York’s 24th district, where Rep. Ann Marie Buerkle (R) faces former Rep. Dan Maffei (D)
•Ohio’s 6th district, where Rep. Bill Johnson (R) faces former Rep. Charlie Wilson (D)
•Texas’ 23rd district, where Rep. Francisco “Quico” Canseco (R) faces Democrat Pete Gallego

Read more: http://atr.rollcall.com/democrats-shift-money-in-house-races-as-map-evolves/


17 posted on 10/10/2012 10:05:35 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Signalman
said longtime Clinton adviser James Carville ... I’ve talked to a lot of people today and everybody’s saying the same thing. … Should I be more concerned than I am?

Tell them not to worry James. Tell them Obama has it so far in the bag, they need not even bother voting...

18 posted on 10/10/2012 10:07:00 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Signalman
The useful idiots were sold a lie about polls over the last few weeks. Can't feel sorry for them...they should have believed what was said about the internals.

They are going to be having to pop Meds more than usual when their bubble gets popped...and it will.

19 posted on 10/10/2012 10:07:50 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Signalman

A pending “Arkancide”, with Hillary stepping in to fill the Void?????


20 posted on 10/10/2012 10:09:28 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Signalman
“Did Obama just throw away the election?”

Yes.

21 posted on 10/10/2012 10:11:18 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

“Nothing would make me happier than every liberal in the nation in tears on election night.”

It took SIX WEEKS to see those tears 12 years ago after Election Night.

Can we believe Hussein will CONCEDE?

Algore and the leftist freaks never DID.


22 posted on 10/10/2012 10:13:38 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Signalman

Maybe Carville is counting heavily on the fraudulent votes. He was always an expert in deceit.


23 posted on 10/10/2012 10:18:18 AM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Nervous Tick

I think Carville knows, he just won’t say it out loud.


24 posted on 10/10/2012 10:29:27 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Signalman; All

I look at all this as a setup for post-debate #2 or #3 coverage—which will talk about what a GREAT comeback Obamugabe created.

The Obamugabe-worshipping media has spent months trying to demoralize us...and, just like the gulag operators of the Soviet Union, they’ve now given anyone who wants to be their “prisoner” (defined as anyone who believes their crap) a *glimpse* of freedom.

Think how demoralized people will be who are BUYING INTO the mainstream media line right now, when the mainstream media suddenly announces “OBAMA WON THE DEBATE! HE IS BACK ON TOP!”

Obama’s massive unpopularity has been rampant since before the election of 2010, and he hasn’t become more popular. He is the worst, and even some reasonable Democrat voters (not the kooks or his base of course) are beginning to see Obamugabe is a danger to prosperity.

I hope for a Romney landslide, but I know this: the Chicago machine is a Fraud Machine extraordinaire. We all ought to pray, work, and give. And then pray.


25 posted on 10/10/2012 10:53:40 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Signalman

why I’d Boob Beckel intellectually dishonest? Can’t FNC find a single liberal who can be honest about what’s happening? Is that too much to ask? I’m so tired of having to listen to meaningless spin that even the person spinning doesn’t believe.

Come on FNC, you can do better!


26 posted on 10/10/2012 2:18:09 PM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Signalman

I’ll be happy to watch all of them jump out of their basement windows on election night. :)


27 posted on 10/10/2012 3:26:59 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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