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PC market collapses ahead of Windows 8 launch
Beta News ^ | 10/11/2012 | Joe Wilcox

Posted on 10/11/2012 3:00:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

If you can't figure out why CEO Steve Ballmer talks about reinventing Microsoft as a "devices and services company", Jay Chou, IDC senior research analyst, has an answer. "PCs are going through a severe slump". That's being polite in mixed company, when the F-word is so much more appropriate. Third-quarter PC shipments accentuate an already dreadful trend. Analysts expected slowing shipments as the market prepares for Windows 8, but nothing quite like this. The seasonal back-to-school lift collapsed, with even Mac shipments slowing.

Global PC shipments fell 8.6 percent year over year, according to IDC, surpassing the minus 3.8 percent forecast. Gartner's estimate is a more generous 8.3 percent decline. The United States, a region recently in love with tablets, is in free fall, with shipments down 13.8 percent by Gartner's reckoning and 12.4 percent according to IDC. For the better part of a year, analysts excused declining PC shipments as market anticipation for Windows 8. But the slowdown during back-to-school buying season foreshadows weakness ahead.

Back-to-School Bust

"There was great hope through the first half that 2012 would prove to be a rebound year for the PC market", Craig Stice, IHS senior principal analyst, says. "Now three quarters through the year, the usual boost from the back-to-school season appears to be a bust, and both AMD and Intel’s third-quarter outlooks appear to be flat to down".

Declines aren't just global. "The third quarter has historically been driven by back-to-school sales, but US PC shipments did not increase, not even sequentially, from the second quarter of 2012", Mikako Kitagawa, Gartner principal analyst, says.

In earlier quarters, even when other manufacturers saw declines, Apple continued a hearty growth track. Q3 is typically one of Apple's best, given the Mac's popularity among schools. But shipments fell 6.1 percent or 7 percent, respectively, according to Gartner or IDC. Apple is the bird in the coal mine, and it just croaked.

"Retailers were conservative in placing orders as they responded to weak back-to-school sales", Kitagawa observes. "By the end of September, retailers were focused on clearing out inventory in advance of the Windows 8 launch later this month".

Schools typically buy new tech when needed, not when released. Apple launched OS X Mountain Lion near the start of back-to-school buying, while Microsoft guaranteed free upgrades to Windows 8, which goes on sale in 15 days. From perspective of need and timing, there's no reason to wait -- unless perhaps if education bought something else.

Canary in Coalmine

Declining Mac shipments foreshadow much. Apple doesn't announce calendar third-quarter results for two weeks, but Q2 shows an important trend -- at least in the education market. Recent iPad sales wins include 11,000 to Mansfield Texas Independent School District and 25,000 to the San Diego Unified School District. "We sold more than twice as many iPads as Macs to US education institutions", Apple CFO Peter Oppenheimer said about calendar second quarter, in July.

The point: iPad takes away some Mac sales and Gartner and IDC analysts have acknowledged similar tablet trend for Windows PCs.

Once again, tablets lift their screens and raspberry PCs. Despite continued computer manufacturer or trade analyst denials, tablets offer so much at a time when personal computers offer so much less. "While the industry has been focused on shaving excess inventory and preparing to launch a new generation of products, consumers have been looking at alternative devices like tablets", David Daoud, IDC research director, concedes.

The big, new Windows PC designs are all fourth-quarter gambles, but consumers and even some businesses aren't waiting around for them. Twenty-five percent of US adults have access to a tablet, according to Pew (22 percent as owners, 3 percent sharing with someone else in the household). Sixty-eight percent got their tablet within the last year, and 32 percent during 2012. Considering selling prices for 10-inch tablets are about the same, or even more, than laptops, each pad purchase is potentially one taken from PCs.

Keeping Faith

"The hard question of what is the 'it' product for PCs remain unanswered", Chou says. "While ultrabook prices have come down a little, there are still some significant challenges that will greet Windows 8 in the coming quarter". Microsoft and its OEM partners bank much on Windows 8 tablets, which may be the only hope.

But Windows 8 is a leap of faith, because businesses aren't buying either. "Professional PC shipments in the US began slowing in the second quarter of this year, and they continued the trend in the third quarter", Kitagawa says. "The results indicate that the replacement peak may have passed in the professional sector".

Daoud remains a Windows 8 believer. "As vendors line up innovative new products and designs, consumers are likely to respond positively during the tail-end of 4Q12, and that means a potential return to positive growth at the end of this year". But how can he not be, given IDC's client base?

Other analysts can't keep the faith. "Optimism has vanished and turned to doubt, and the industry is now training its sights on 2013 to deliver the hoped-for rebound", Stice says. "All this is setting the PC market up for its first annual decline since the dot-com bust year of 2001".



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Society
KEYWORDS: computersales; microsoft; pcmarket; windows8
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1 posted on 10/11/2012 3:00:19 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Just curious but does anybody still buy tower computers nowadays?


2 posted on 10/11/2012 3:03:38 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Beware the Rip in the Space/Time Continuum)
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To: PJ-Comix

Deep down, Luddites are happier.


3 posted on 10/11/2012 3:06:03 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: ShadowAce

For your tech ping list...


4 posted on 10/11/2012 3:08:01 PM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: SeekAndFind

The market has changed. There are many things you can do on portable devices that you once could only do on a desktop.

It’s not a collapse, it’s just an evolution of the market. The portable devices we are buying still need computer chips.


5 posted on 10/11/2012 3:08:08 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: PJ-Comix

Yes, but not as often. The fact is PC hardware has stabilized, there are no more must have add-ons coming out every couple of months. PCs are microwaves now, you use it until it dies, no more constantly looking for excuses to upgrade.


6 posted on 10/11/2012 3:10:19 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: PJ-Comix

I bought a Win7 desktop last CyberMonday.

I prefer a desktop for most computing, but I also have a laptop that I use when I am watching TV.


7 posted on 10/11/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

I think I suffer from computer hoarding. I’m ashamed to list all the hardware I have in the home, from tower to webbook and everything in between.


8 posted on 10/11/2012 3:14:07 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: PJ-Comix

I just bought a new one last year. i7 with 50 million zig-a-watts of ram and a huge 27” monitor for video editing. Can’t do that very well on a tablet.


9 posted on 10/11/2012 3:14:54 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: PJ-Comix

I bought one not long ago. I have a “workstation” laptop, but when it heats up, it also slows down.

Hard to get some peripherals into a laptop, my desktop has a fiber optic IO card, a 12 channel AtoD acquisition system, a GPIB interface, and two Firewire ports. I swap in and out a couple of sound cards, depending on what I’m doing (a sound card is also a data acquisition system).

It runs faster and cooler than the laptop, and has a bit more memory.


10 posted on 10/11/2012 3:15:00 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: PJ-Comix; mickie; flaglady47; oswegodeee
I just bought a tower not too long ago.

I have a little closet that's converted into a computer room/office.

I have a desk with bobble heads, a pic of Mitt and Ann, Russian nesting dolls, a jeweled snail, a (gasp) land phone, a felt pelican, photo stills of Flash Gordon and Dale Arden in action....and my clumsy computer tower, no longer in style.

This is my own little old-fashioned gal-cave.

Stop in to visit with both me and Ming the Merciless for a cup of coffee and a slice of Martha Washington's Own Creme Cake, LOL.

Leni

11 posted on 10/11/2012 3:17:42 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: PJ-Comix
Just curious but does anybody still buy tower computers nowadays?


I did for my wife. A mini-tower from HP is in the order of $300. It does what she wants with a big screen...:^)

12 posted on 10/11/2012 3:19:47 PM PDT by az_gila
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To: discostu

I can not afford to buy anything now that I do not NEED.
My very old Sony Vaio still works for what I do, so I
will use it until it dies.


13 posted on 10/11/2012 3:19:55 PM PDT by jusduat (on the mercy of the Lord alone.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I used to use a tower, but in recent years a laptop has enough memory and stuff so you don’t really need one for most of the things I do. So I use a laptop, although I usually keep it on my desk.

On the other hand, I touch type, and I do NOT want to use any computer that doesn’t have a decent keyboard. I hope that they will modify Windows 8 so it will be usable with a keyboard without doing all sorts of fiddling with it first.

I suspect that probably computer makers like Dell will provide whatever is needed to give you that option on their laptops. I do NOT have much use for an iPad, which is hard to write on and hard for my eyes to read large texts.


14 posted on 10/11/2012 3:22:13 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: PJ-Comix

I haven’t bought a tower computer in years. I buy the individual components and build my own computers.


15 posted on 10/11/2012 3:23:57 PM PDT by eaglescout1998
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To: PJ-Comix

They’re still the way to go for servers and hard-core gaming and multimedia, but for everything else a laptop does just as well and is comparable price-wise.


16 posted on 10/11/2012 3:25:52 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (True North- Strong Leader, Strong Dollar, Strong and Free!)
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To: PJ-Comix

I used to enjoy building gaming rigs in tower cases. Big tower cases have gone the way of carbonated cars.


17 posted on 10/11/2012 3:36:43 PM PDT by IDFbunny
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To: jusduat

I can afford it, but there’s no compelling reason to replace my 5 year old (maybe even 6) PC, it works, it’s starting to feel a little slow but not much, there’s nothing I want it to do that it can’t. Maybe this time next year I’ll starting thinking about it, which means probably another year after that, unless it actually dies. Not like in the old days, back then I’d do a major upgrade of components in 18 months to 2 years after purchase, and total replacement that same window later. Some of that’s me, I’m not as interested in the bleeding edge as I used to be, but some of it is the industry too, the bleeding edge doesn’t bleed as much as it used to. Used to be there was a noticeable difference in performance of PCs more than 6 months apart in age, now it takes 2 or 3 years for a person to say “yup this one’s faster”.


18 posted on 10/11/2012 3:44:08 PM PDT by discostu (Not a part of anyone's well oiled machine.)
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To: PJ-Comix

I’ll probably need a newer one within the next year or so.


19 posted on 10/11/2012 3:45:13 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I have a Dell i3 tower with a video card needed by the Pinnacle and Avid packages.

For the most part, I do simple cuts and tweaking for stock footage and the once in a while youtube package. I may try to upgrade to a 7 later this year around Christmas time depending on the deals.


20 posted on 10/11/2012 3:49:35 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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