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Really, what are these people who support Lance Armstrong on?
The Daily Mail Online ^ | October 12, 2012 | Des Kelly

Posted on 10/13/2012 8:22:00 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

So who else knew? There were too many people involved; too many mouths open and too much money was in play for this to remain a genuine secret for so long.

There must have been people in positions of power within the sport who had knowledge of what Lance Armstrong was up to long before this damning dossier was released.

Dragging the proof into the public domain was a difficult task, but only because it was hampered by what has all the appearances of an institutional cover-up, a co-ordinated conspiracy and the propagation of a huge lie that extends way beyond the disgraced rider’s circle of team-mates.

Of course people knew. Armstrong’s team used to sing a song about the drug use, for heaven’s sake. His fellow rider at the US Postal Service team, David Zabriskie, revealed how he would adapt the words to Jimi Hendrix’s Purple Haze when they were in meetings or on the bus. ‘EPO all in my veins, Lately things just don’t seem the same. Actin’ funny, but I don’t know why, ’Scuse me while I pass this guy.’

The bigger joke is that cycling tried to pretend the scandal wasn’t happening, or did they think it was too big a risk to bring Armstrong down?

It is certainly difficult not to laugh at the idea that the Union Cycliste Internationale governing body once accepted £78,000 from Armstrong for the ‘development of drug-testing equipment’. Seriously, what were these people on? Were they stupid?

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: cycling; lancearmstrong; usada
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1 posted on 10/13/2012 8:22:02 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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One would have to wonder...how the cycling federation “missed” all this “doping”

Of course, it would not surprise me...and would not be the first in international sports.

Few realized that Carl Lewis had three failed drug tests in Seoul...and the IOC had them covered up....it was the same Olympics that they busted Canadian sprinter Ben Johnson (his 100m gold went to Lewis)


2 posted on 10/13/2012 8:27:20 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Political maturity is realizing that the "R" next to someone's name does not mean "conservative")
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To: Uncle Chip
The real question should be, who is the United States Anti-Doping Agency? and what is their legal authority regarding anything?


3 posted on 10/13/2012 8:28:43 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Uncle Chip
Maybe it is because he passed every drug test given him with the standards at the time.

We have a bunch of team mates saying he doped. OK, what were the results of the scientific drug test for that specific race?

We have to factor in eyewitness hearsay vrs clinical test results.

Until Lance is clinically proven to have doped against the standards at the time it is all BS.

4 posted on 10/13/2012 8:37:46 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Holding my nose to vote.)
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To: darkwing104

Here’s what wiki says:

In October 1999, the USOC created the USADA to begin operation in October 2000. USADA’s status and alleged independence from the USOC contrasts the norm in the United States in which most professional sport organizations (MLB, NFL, NBA, NHL) manage the anti-doping aspects of their sports. As a result of USADA’s ongoing multi-year contracts with the USOC and the sport national governing bodies (USA Track & Field, USA Cycling, USA Swimming, US Soccer, etc.) the agency is responsible for managing the anti-doping programs including testing and results management for each sport’s athletes and events throughout the year. Despite its name and status as the country’s official anti doping organization, USADA is a private organization and not subject to government oversight.


5 posted on 10/13/2012 8:39:49 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I think its been firmly established that those tests had more holes than Swiss cheese. Plus direct testimony (and there seems to be plenty of it by credible witnesses) is not hearsay.


6 posted on 10/13/2012 8:41:21 AM PDT by Catphish
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To: Uncle Chip

Didn’t Armstrong pass every drug test he was given?


7 posted on 10/13/2012 8:42:23 AM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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Didn’t Armstrong pass every drug test he was given?

No -- from what I read he took 260 blood tests and there was atleast one that he did not pass but his team explained away.

8 posted on 10/13/2012 8:47:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
By this point, people just assume anybody who wins the Tour de France or hits 70 home runs in one season is probably taking performance-enhancing drugs.

You know. Just like we assume that politicians aren't telling us the truth.

"Doping" or "lying" becomes part of the game, and the real "rules" of the game aren't always what the authorities say they are.

9 posted on 10/13/2012 8:50:47 AM PDT by x
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To: Uncle Chip

What drug are the people who refuse to let this thing go on?


10 posted on 10/13/2012 8:54:37 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

That’s a bit ambiguous. Let me try again.

What drug are the jack asses who keep beating this dead horse, on.


11 posted on 10/13/2012 8:57:33 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Uncle Chip

Anyone who goes racing around on a two-wheeler is as boring as someone racing around on a tricycle.


12 posted on 10/13/2012 9:04:52 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Uncle Chip
from what I read he took 260 blood tests and there was atleast one that he did not pass but his team explained away.

I'd think after 260 blood tests, the man would require a bit of a refill.

13 posted on 10/13/2012 9:05:39 AM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: DManA

<>What drug are the people who refuse to let this thing go on?<>

According to SI, your question should be addressed to LA himself:

Lance Armstrong asked to see evidence, and the USADA delivered

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/more/10/11/Lance-Armstrong-USADA-report.ap/index.html#ixzz29CBYygWV


14 posted on 10/13/2012 9:06:08 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
"Really, what are these people who support Lance Armstrong on?"

Does it really matter!?! People are free (for now) to support what and whomever they choose.

15 posted on 10/13/2012 9:09:56 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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To: Uncle Chip

I want to know why some people think it is the job of the government to target a private citizen for slander? Just how is that constitutional since this witch hunt isn’t about prosecuting him for anything but to simply slander him? It takes a real fascist to think the job of the government is to target their personal enemies.


16 posted on 10/13/2012 9:10:46 AM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: Uncle Chip

His testicular cancer may very well have been caused by PEDs.


17 posted on 10/13/2012 9:13:06 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: eartrumpet
I'd think after 260 blood tests, the man would require a bit of a refill.

Not unless you're a vampire.

18 posted on 10/13/2012 9:17:49 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I don’t have a problem with “doping” because I don’t know what the hell that entails. No one ever explains it. Is it the taking of vitamins, minerals, hormones, etc. that millions take on a daily basis for their health? IMO, the whole damn world is nuts.


19 posted on 10/13/2012 9:18:49 AM PDT by upsdriver
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To: Uncle Chip
I just wish they'd expend a fraction of this effort to bust the Williams sisters.

Ever notice how one of them is always out of action? (getting clean so they can test?) Women just can't be that manly without steroids!

20 posted on 10/13/2012 9:19:02 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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