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Do black people support Obama because he's black?
Associated Press ^ | Sat Oct 13th 2012 | By JESSE WASHINGTON

Posted on 10/13/2012 2:12:59 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

Surviving slavery, segregation and discrimination has forged a special pride in African-Americans. Now some are saying this hard-earned pride has become prejudice in the form of blind loyalty to President Barack Obama.

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OK this may be a touchy subject, but duh.
1 posted on 10/13/2012 2:13:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Does a bear crap in the woods? :)


2 posted on 10/13/2012 2:14:44 PM PDT by woofer2425 (Obama inhales immensely!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Looks like the AP needs a visit from Captain Obvious.


3 posted on 10/13/2012 2:15:03 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

yes


4 posted on 10/13/2012 2:15:34 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Why of COURSE not. And the Pope is REALLY a Lutheran!


5 posted on 10/13/2012 2:15:52 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

As if that was a question. No, the question is if the guilt fed for over 50 years by the education establishment and the media and guilt ridden now whites support the mullato because he’s (allegedly, as we know) black? (And frankly, I don’t think that is a question either.)


6 posted on 10/13/2012 2:17:09 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Duh.
7 posted on 10/13/2012 2:17:59 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Epic. Duh.
8 posted on 10/13/2012 2:18:30 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’m shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!


9 posted on 10/13/2012 2:18:30 PM PDT by CondiArmy
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I say the answer is no. They support Obama because he’s a leftist. If he were conservative they would’nt support him.


10 posted on 10/13/2012 2:19:16 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Yes


11 posted on 10/13/2012 2:19:45 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

many say that they proudly support him .


12 posted on 10/13/2012 2:20:17 PM PDT by SMGFan (SMGfan is not "Sub Machine Gun" fan)
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To: Varda

One vote no, so far.

Thanks for your feedback. :D


13 posted on 10/13/2012 2:20:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Do black people support Obama because he's black?

Well, they'd better, because if they don't,


14 posted on 10/13/2012 2:20:31 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm not voting for Obama, so therefore I must be helping Romney!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I would hope not, but suspect it is true.

In recent elections 90% of black voters voted for Demoncrats, in 2008 99% of black voters voted for Obama, I doubt very many would vote for Alan Keyes or Herman Cain.

P.S. that is not a misspelling above.


15 posted on 10/13/2012 2:20:41 PM PDT by Ferndina
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Whites should vote for Romney for the same reason. That shouldn’t upset anyone.


16 posted on 10/13/2012 2:20:52 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Is the sky blue?
Does a bear poop in the woods?
Is a frog’s ass watertight?
Is the pope Catholic?
Do turkeys stampede at dawn?
Does Dolly Parton sleep on her back?


17 posted on 10/13/2012 2:21:26 PM PDT by thepatriot1 (...brought to you courtesy of the Red, White and Blue)
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To: Varda
I say the answer is no. They support Obama because he’s a leftist. If he were conservative they would’nt support him.

I think you are on to something. If a conservative black were to run, he would probably get more blacks to vote for him than a white conservative, but still far less that a white or black leftist.

18 posted on 10/13/2012 2:21:38 PM PDT by Paradox (I want Obama defeated. Period.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Does a bear.......


19 posted on 10/13/2012 2:21:38 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Is the Pope Catholic?


20 posted on 10/13/2012 2:22:43 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: thepatriot1
Does a bear poop in the woods?

Does that look like the woods to you? Is the Pope Italian? It looks like a trail to me!


21 posted on 10/13/2012 2:23:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Obama phones, sidestep on the must look for work to get welfare law, Food Stamps,WIC, subsidized housing,every social program know to man.

DUH ! They fear Romney would make their fat butts work to eat.


22 posted on 10/13/2012 2:23:56 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
" Do black people support Obama because he's black?"


23 posted on 10/13/2012 2:24:56 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

No because he is a black democrat.


24 posted on 10/13/2012 2:25:12 PM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: thepatriot1

Does the sun rise in the east?


25 posted on 10/13/2012 2:25:38 PM PDT by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
And *why* did they vote for him in '08?

Nothing has changed.


26 posted on 10/13/2012 2:27:33 PM PDT by Daffynition (Self-respect: the secure feeling that no one, as yet, is suspicious. ~ HLM)
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To: Paradox

I don’t recall black support for Alan Keyes when he ran for offices or for other conservative blacks. They might be proud of them but I don’t recall it ever translating into a real shift in votes.


27 posted on 10/13/2012 2:27:39 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

double duhhh


28 posted on 10/13/2012 2:29:14 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (yup-Who knew??)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Recall that he who controls the meaning of words controls the outcome of the discussion.

In the context of Critical Race Theory, just what, exactly, is meant by “race” and thus “racism”, “racist” and even “black”? We have a prominent case of “race” in that BHO told us in his own autobiography that in his youth he struggled with his racial identity and finally chose to be ‘black”. However, he also tells us that his mother was Caucasian and his father was from Kenya but listed as part Arab. In 1988, none other than Bill Clinton was
called our “first black president” by Nobel poet Tony Morrison.

If a Caucasian man can be “black”, and a person with a Caucasian mother can decide to be black despite the fact
his biological father may be more Arab than black or something else, then what, exactly is meant by “black”?

When Bill Maher, during a panel discussion on HBO complains that Obama’s policies are “half-assed” “because he’s only half black.” and that “if he was fully black, I’m telling you, he would be a better president.”, and that “there’s a white man in him holding him back”, than what is “black”?

CNN’s Soledad O’Brien writes of a private meeting in 2007 with Jesse Jackson in her book, “The Next Big Story.” During the meeting, Jackson complained to O’Brien, whose mother is a black woman from Cuba, that there weren’t any black anchors on CNN. She wrote, “He looks me in the eye and reaches his fingers over to tap a spot of skin on my right hand. He shakes his head. “You don’t count,” he says.” She closed the section with “[t]he arbiter of blackness had weighed in. I had been measured and found wanting.”

Finally, Dr. Cornel West, whose official web site describes him as “a prominent and provocative democratic intellectual”, was the subject of an article in the May 18, 2011 Washington Post. Reporter Krissah Thompson opened with, “Scholar Cornel West’s scathing critique of President Obama’s liberal bona fides in a series of recent interviews has ignited a furious debate among African American bloggers and commentators.”

These are all facts that anyone can verify on Google in 0.8 seconds.

References to race, racism and especially to “black”, in all these contexts, is clearly not about “race”. It is about ideology, socialist ideology. The problem is not how black all these people may be, but how RED. With that in mind, to a person who equates “black” with socialist, then “racism” and “racist” is only about people who reject socialism and socialists.


29 posted on 10/13/2012 2:29:14 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

30 posted on 10/13/2012 2:29:21 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (because the real world is not digital...)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Only in the eyes of people who don't find that 96% of blacks voted for a 1/2 black man in 2008 would anyone find this statistic racist.

Does it matter if the candidate is a socialist/communist who parties with the 1% while blathering about 47% (for whom he does nothing)? Does it matter if the candidate is a proponent of aborting black babies, no matter how far along in utero they are? Does it matter if the candidate supports gay marriage, defying religious and moral convictions of some of those voters? Apparently it didn't in 2008!

Exit polls: How Obama won

Snip: Fully 96 percent of black voters supported Obama and constituted 13 percent of the electorate, a 2-percentage-point rise in their national turnout.

31 posted on 10/13/2012 2:30:22 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I wonder if blacks have read history. The whites have been enslaved at one point too. It’s too bad color of skin is so important to them.


32 posted on 10/13/2012 2:31:36 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The real surprise is that the “RASIS” obsessed here on FR are not voting for the Kenyan themselves.


33 posted on 10/13/2012 2:33:51 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I remember reading Dick Gregory’s book N***** in high school. (Not as an assignment, don’t worry.) He was born in 1932, and he said that when he went to high school football game, he would cheer a little louder when a black player got the ball, he was, he admitted, prejudiced (he meant biased). But he was not a bigot.

Late one night his car won’t start and he, his wife and baby were stranded in the middle of nowhere. Along came a motorcycle and a huge white “cat with a million zippers” got out and asked what the problem was. Gregory is a small man, and he was afraid for his family’s safety, but told the biker that his car won’t start. The biker told him to pop the hood, and he tinkered with the engine for a bit, while other bikers, friends of his show up. They all got involved, pooled their knowledge and resources, and got him on his way.

So, his message was, don’t judge a person based on superficial appearance. Look, white NBA players tend to be overrated, and so are black politicians. Let it go.


34 posted on 10/13/2012 2:34:27 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ( Message to President Obama: Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

35 posted on 10/13/2012 2:35:21 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Once again, thanks for the feedback.

(trying to promote balance)

Though I wonder whether there is likewise balance in return?


36 posted on 10/13/2012 2:38:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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I’d say no.

They’re voting for Obama because he promised them free stuff. They’re voting for Obama because he demonized successful white people. They’re voting for Obama because Obama tells them that their stupidity, sloth, laziness and third world work ethic isn’t their fault - it’s someone else’s fault.

Blacks in the US vote, in the overwhelming majority, for whomever affirms their worldview -which is that a) they’re blameless, b) they’re incapable of doing anything about their condition by themselves, and c) whenever they don’t succeed, the cause is always someone else’s fault. Those who don’t toe this line are demonized within the black community, so this voting preference isn’t the result of mere sloth and indifference. This position is actively taken and protected, which means that blacks in the US like being seen as violent, mendacious grifters.

Sometimes, the person for whom they vote is a white person - but there’s always an element of that white person’s character that is consonant with the majority black viewpoint. If a white person is selling a viewpoint that has at it’s core hard work, thrift and self-restraint, then the vast majority of blacks will have none of that. These positions run against their very fiber of their being.


37 posted on 10/13/2012 2:39:28 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Oldpuppymax
And the Pope is REALLY a Lutheran!

Well, didn't the previous pope meet with a Lutheran mufti and kissed a Lutheran Bible?

38 posted on 10/13/2012 2:45:10 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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That’s only half right. If it were merely a black thing, black people would support conservative blacks also, but they don’t. Obama is a black man who is willing to plunder the wealth of America to squander it in race and class division schemes. Obama is a neo-soviet who talks their talk, and pretends to walk their walk. ...They also support Obama because he is gay. He is gay first, and black last.


39 posted on 10/13/2012 2:45:58 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

At first I thought, well, of course!

But then, if it was Allan West running against, say, Nancy Pelosi or Bill Clinton, they’d vote white in a heart beat.


40 posted on 10/13/2012 2:47:10 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Reminds me of the old hip-hop tune “Things That Make You Say DUH!”


41 posted on 10/13/2012 2:47:38 PM PDT by Tuanedge (Warriors victorious in a hundred battles, flee when a tiger enters their tent.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I, personally, would be surprised if blacks didn’t overwhelmingly vote for a black candidate. Most blacks thought Clarence Thomas should have been confirmed and O.J. should have been acquitted. I don’t think it’s healthy for our society, but I accept that that is the way it is.

I wish more blacks would recognize that their real interest lies in opportunity, not hand outs. I know a lot of blacks who have self-respect and intelligence, and resent the condescension flowing from the likes of buffoons like Biden and the Clintons. But, they vote for the Democrats none-the-less.

I even know one black Freeper personally, he is a dude who has his stuff together, and he cordially despises liberals of every stripe and color. And he despises Obama and would never vote for a Democrat. But his kind are few and far between.


42 posted on 10/13/2012 2:49:59 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets ( Message to President Obama: Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Does a fat baby fart?


43 posted on 10/13/2012 2:54:37 PM PDT by chasio649 (Stop looking for heroes.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Outstanding point.

Which raises the question: does Obama having won an election, change the situation for good?

Up until the last election, nobody believed a black could win the presidency.

Well a black man won the presidency. With a gathering of black votes from both sides of the aisle, and a huge bunch of whites as well.

I suspect the tide has begun to change now. Slowly.

Obama will still win a majority of black votes, but some will judge him. Because he won, and now is just another former president.

I believe Obama was necessary.

But I hope some blacks will use their heads this time.


44 posted on 10/13/2012 2:57:11 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Varda
I say the answer is no. They support Obama because he’s a leftist. If he were conservative they would’nt support him.

I disagree. I think if the Republicans have a black man running, like West or Cain, they'd get a least half the black vote. Whenever we have a black conservative running for anything, it's more the white liberals who talk the trash and stir up all the racial issues. In fact, the quickest way to get a white liberal to use the word "nigger" is to show them a black conservative.
45 posted on 10/13/2012 2:58:26 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Surviving slavery, segregation and discrimination has forged a special pride in African-Americans

Why?

What have they done with that Freedom, that integration, that discrimination.

There are a some blacks who have done well, the others call them Uncle Toms.

The others still need Affirmative action for jobs, they kill each other in gang killings, they are high on drugs, they live in ghetto’s the rely on welfare and free health care, crime is rampant in their communities,and they vote for more entitlements.

Some can be proud, others are just a pain in America’s ass, doesn’t matter, they all but 5% of them vote for a mullatto no one ever heard of who has no idea how American blacks live because he isn’t an American black, he was raised in Hawaii by whites,and never lived in a ghetto,never experienced racism and had everything handed to him on a silver platter.His claimed Daddy was not an American he was an African drunk.Yet they elected him just because he is half black.


46 posted on 10/13/2012 3:07:37 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: fr_freak

Here in Pennsylvania we had a black football star (Lynn Swann) running against white Ed Rendell. The news reported that Rendell won the black vote pretty handily. Are there any elections where the black republican won the black vote? I can’t think of any.


47 posted on 10/13/2012 3:10:49 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I’m voting for the white guy...


48 posted on 10/13/2012 3:11:22 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

wasn’t his mother whi....what? That’s not relevant here?
Never mind.


49 posted on 10/13/2012 3:13:38 PM PDT by llevrok (By comparison to Obama, at least Nero could play a fiddle.)
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To: Ferndina
Nearly all blacks seem to have an a priori commitment to the Democratic party. There have been studies in which researchers interview blacks about their positions on issues. If a black interviewee expresses a conservative position on an issue--say against abortion or in favor of lower taxes--the interviewer will explain that the Republicans agree with him and the Democrats disagree. What then usually happens is that the black interviewee will change his position on the issue to align with the Democrats rather than view the GOP more favorably.

Blacks have been so propagandized that Republicans are all Klansmen and slave masters that they have a psychological block that prevents them from ever voting for the GOP. (Not to mention that it is no fun to be called "Uncle Tom," "Oreo", etc.)

So for the most part blacks support Obama because he is a Democrat. The fact that he is black does, however, increase voter turnout and enthusiasm for him.

50 posted on 10/13/2012 3:22:12 PM PDT by feralcat
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