Skip to comments.'The Walking Dead' Season 3 Review: Gore Galore as Humanity Hunkers Down
Posted on 10/14/2012 3:30:47 PM PDT by djone
"There's still no sign of Andrea (Laurie Holden), who got separated from the group at the end of season two.
When the group discovers an abandoned prison, they think they've found a place where they can hunker down and breath easier - at least for a few days.
The prison is crawling with walkers, forcing them to go on a ruthless killing mission to secure the perimeter. And you know what that means - a series of zombie kills fashioned with the kind of special effects George A. Romero could only dream of back in 1968.
The monotonous killings may please gore hounds, but you'll soon long for the big picture questions that separate "Dead" from most other zombie offerings. The season still holds plenty of potential even with the show dumping some red meat out for the base. Rick's wife, Lori (Sarah Wayne Callies) is very pregnant, and she wonders if the baby will be born "walking," if you catch her drift. Rick is in full command of the survivors, but he's also learned he must kill fellow humans to protect his own.
And what about the mysterious woman we saw at the end of season two, the warrior with those serious swords? She's back, but we haven't learned much about her yet.
"The Walking Dead" isn't afraid to sic walkers on some of the main characters to keep us guessing. It's one of many reasons why "The Walking Dead" isn't like any other show on television. Yes, those bedside vigils from last season wore out the patience of regular viewers, and some of the knotted brow dialogue can be precious. New show runner Glen Mazzara treats pulp material with dignity, making this zombie apocalypse superior to the modern undead competition - no matter the screen size."
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It can’t get any worse that the boring ‘farm storyline’ of last season.
I’ll be watching at 8 pm central.
I’m totally hyped up for this season!
Much more action and better settings.
Fortunately today’s Tigers/Yankees game is a day game and will be over by showtime.
16 shows this year instead of 13 like last year. Great show....I expct if Obama is put back in office this is our future.
Great show. I’ve been down with a bad cold and catching up on re-runs most of today.
Season 3 looks good. I saw a trailer and it looks like Daryl’s brother Merl might be back?
Just think if they were democrats, they’d be marrying the zombies.
I always watch for a better way to kill zombies - you never know when you might need that skill...
One of my favorite shows on TV.
I’ll be watching. I like this so far.
don’t like new shows , revolution, last resort, and new fringe.
Have Nashville on the TiVo haven’t watched that. Hopefully good.
Haven’t liked much this season.
Merl is back.
“Just think if they were democrats, theyd be marrying the zombies.” Hey CR you are so right.
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ZOMBIES ...When do we want it_ NOW
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ZOMBIES... FREE THE ZOMBIES
EQUAL RIGHTS FOR ZOMBIES...Zombie protection under the law.
Wow my all time favorite show. This show prep us in how to deal with moonbats when there is no room in Hell for them. This show will be showing us many methods how to get rid of those pesky moonbats should they take over.
So far I’ve only seen two instances of blatant democrat influence on the show. The first is racist Merle who doesn’t like democrats. The other was the nursing home where the kindly Hispanics were the only ones who stuck around to help the old folks in the nursing home after all the gringos ran away.
I watched it & found it a bit boring. The bad guys can’t talk their dead ; on the other hand,except for liberal comments, Supernatural is a great show.
I’m counting down the minutes until mayhelm starts. Let the slicing and dicing begin!
I got hooked too.
I didn’t watch the 1st season. But I kept reading rave reviews. I got Netflix and it had Season 1, so I watched.
Now, I won’t miss an episode.
Love the show and have to agree.... the nursing home scenario was so overdone and ridiculous! What, they all have guns pointed at each others’ heads and the grandma just walks right up like she was clueless and they all put their weapons down? Too stereotypical. The only good part in that whole episode is when they are surprised to see Glenn because they thought Guillermo had fed him to the dogs... only for Glenn to point out the little chihuahas sitting in a dog bed LOL.
I have a Cold Steel brand defensive bat and there would be brains everywhere after a hit from that - really heavy on the hitting area.
LOVE this show -
I always watch for a better way to kill zombies - you never know when you might need that skill...Here ya go...
I am going to step away from the political discussions for a moment to discuss something I have a real interest in GUNS. More specifically, guns for the Zombie Apocalypse. If you are not interested in either subject, I highly recommend you skip right on by as this post will be Guns, Guns, and more Guns.
Recently, an Internet meme got passed around about which gun would you choose to have in the event of a Zombie Apocalypse based on a graphic of world military hardware -
In an attempt to answer the question, I have to first state some basic criteria I would use to choose my zombie weapon.
Assumption and Criteria -
For this discussion to make any sense, you have to have some information about the criteria used to determine what my needs are when it comes to a Zombie Survival weapon.
1) Mobility VS Static. In the event of a Zombie Apocalypse, I am going to state up front that unless you are a member of an already established Zombie Protection Fortress, mobility means survival. Most people will have to be able to move from one place to another easily and avoidance of zombie confrontation is very important. Further, firearms would be used for self defense to facilitate escape. Were this post to be about Zombie eradication, my choice would probably be very different.
2) I am using the assumption of a Romero/Brookes Zombie Apocalypse ie, zombies dont run (EVER, thats a fact), Zombies are killed by head shots and zombies moan when they sense prey.
3) The weapon choice would be made on what I could obtain either before the ZA (Zombie Apocalypse) or gleaned after the fact.
Using these assumptions and criteria, the choice for me becomes relatively clear.
The above weapons can be effectively broken down into four categories Support/Specialty weapons, Heavy caliber assault weapons, Light caliber Assault Weapons, and Pistol cartridge Weapons. I will discuss each of these weapon types separately.
Support/Specialty Weapons -
There are some fine choices for Support and Specialty Weapons in the graphic above many of which I wish I had in my own arsenal. Unfortunately, given the criteria listed, none of them would make my list. The Support Automatic Weapons, like the M240, The RPD, the MG4 and the L86 LSW are great support fire weapons but they would be more at home in a static defense situation. They are heavy, most of them fire high caliber ammo (also heavy) and they fire in full auto none of which lends itself to mobile defense.
The Specialty weapons are also very nice particularly the Barrett. While that rifle can effectively target a Zedhead at 1800 yards (well beyond the Zeds ability to detect you in most situations), it weighs 32 pounds unloaded and certainly do not want to lug that thing around, especially if I am running from a small pack of Zeds.
So that brings us to the Heavy Caliber Assault Weapons -
There are many fine choices for Heavy Caliber Assault Weapons pictured above. Since this graphic was created with the military versions of these rifles, most of them are selective fire (meaning they can fire either fully auto or semi-auto). For the purposes of this discussion, lets assume we are talking about the civilian versions of these weapons (and all of them have civilian versions) firing just semi-auto.
But Moorcat, wouldnt you want the selective fire option? you ask No, I really wouldnt. In a ZA, fully automatic fire is a waste of ammunition. You can only kill a Zed by hitting them in the head and a single, well aimed shot will produce more kills than spraying down an area with fully automatic fire. I will assume for the rest of this post that we are talking semi auto weapons.
If I had to choose one of these heavy caliber battle rifles, I would probably go with the original FAMAS .308 bullpup rifle. The M-14 is a spectacular rifle in accuracy and reliability but it is heavy and ungainly in a mobile operation scenario compared to the FAMAS. Moreover, if I am using the gun in self defense, the shorter barrel length on the FAMAS would not be a detrimental factor.
Now before any gun experts jump on me, I am aware that the FAMAS pictured is one of the new versions chambered for .223. Sue me. I actually got to fire a .308 FAMAS years ago and that will always be the version I see when discussing the gun. I liked the reduced recoil, the shorter overall length and the reliability of the gun.
Another heavy caliber rifle (not pictured) I would consider would be the H&K G3. It is lighter than the M-14 (granted, not by much) but the accuracy of that rifle is unmatched. Further, .308 is a popular sporting and military round here in the US and ammo reloads would not be that hard to come by.
Now, all that said, the reason I would NOT choose any of these weapons goes back to my basic criteria the weapon must support a mobile lifestyle, be comfortable to carry, and allow the carrying of ammunition. Fact is, .308 ammo is heavy compared to some of the lighter caliber rounds, and .308 rifles are also heavy compared to the lighter caliber guns. This is where you lose me on the heavy battle rifles. That brings us to the Light Caliber Assault weapons -
Most of the military weapons shown above are what are referred to as light caliber assault weapons. They tend toward two calibers (with one notable exception which I will get to later) .223 and 7.62 X 39. Either caliber is more than capable of taking out a Zed at self defense ranges (inside of 100 yards), the ammunition for these weapons are light, and given their popularity in America, reloads are likely for either caliber. It is the guns themselves that separate this category. These guns tend to be light and easy to carry in a mobile situation.
The most common gun chambered for the 7.62 X 39 is the AK 47 and its variants. It is important to note that there is another gun (not pictured) that is the forerunner of the AK that being the SKS. I will discuss that gun shortly.
The AK is the most widely used assault rifle in the world. There are more AKs in current use around the world than any other battle rifle. The reason for this is simple they are cheap to produce, they are easy to use by the (usually) untrained people using them, and they are one of the most reliable rifles ever made. An AK can be produced by a moderately skilled machinist with a bare minimum of tools and that rifle will perform adequately under the most extreme conditions of use. The trade off is accuracy. While it is relatively easy to produce 1″ groups at 50 yards with an AR style rifle, I have yet to see a stock AK that can do it. Even a well manufactured and modified AK is unlikely to produce the accuracy of a comparable AR or H&K rifle.
The SKS is an assault weapon designed to fire semi auto. It has a number of design features which, while hidden and not widely understood, make this weapon far superior to the AK in both functionality and accuracy. It is easily updated with new furniture making it on a par with the AR in weight and adaptability but it is far more reliable than the AR and the 7.26 X 39 ammo is superior to the .223 at 100 yards. The SKS can easily match the AR in accuracy if a little care is put into the rifle and it is far superior to the AR in terms of reliability. I would choose an SKS over either an AK or an AR in the event of a Zombie Apocalypse.
The AR (M-16) is the current standard for .223 battle rifles. It was so successful that most NATO countries have adopted the .223 round as their standard assault rifle round. That said, the AR has some significant design deficiencies not the least of which is that the rifle was not originally designed to use such a light round. Because of this design problem, the AR even today suffers from the problem of short cycling, where the bolt does not completely clear the spent round before trying to load the new round. This can be addressed by some changes to the rifle but most of those changes require a rebuild of the gun or a qualified gunsmith. Further, these design issues contribute to the absolute need to constantly clean the gun.
Some of the other pictured battle rifles chambered for the .223 do not suffer these design problems but parts for these guns would probably be hard to find in America. I particularly like the AUG, myself, and have had many opportunities to fire one of these light, accurate rifles.
As when discussing the heavier caliber battle rifles, I would probably choose a bullpup design for the functionality, reduced recoil and balance of the weapon. These weapons tend to be lighter, easier to carry and produce less felt recoil than the non-bullpup designs.
Again, the FAMAS, the TAR, the F-2000 and the AUG would be more preferable to me than the AR assuming that I could procure beforehand a supply of replacement parts.
The exception in this category is the FN P-90. This light, effective self defense assault weapon is chambered for the FN 5.7 x 28. They also developed a pistol using this round. Ballistically, the 5.7 x 28 is far superior to the .223 or 7.62 X 39 out to 100 yards and these guns are far superior to the other light battle rifles in terms of weight. The P-90 is easy to maintain, reliable and portable. The top mounted 50 round (military) or 40 round (civilian) clip is also light and extremely portable. The ONLY downside to this rifle for me is that the ammo is not widely available in the United States so reloads would be problematic.
All that said, I probably wouldnt choose one of these light assault weapons. My choice (from the graphic anyway) would be one of the pistol cartridge weapons pictured.
There are four pistol cartridge weapons in the graphic The Mp5K, the Mini-Uzi, the Vector, and the UMP 45. The Mp5K and the Mini-Uzi both fire the 9mm round, the Vector and the UMP 45 both fire the .45 ACP round. I would lean toward the .45 round as the 9mm is questionable beyond 40 yards even in a carbine. The UMP and the Vector are both rated to 100 yards which meets my requirements for a self defense zombie weapon.
It is no secret that I am a fan of H&K and the UMP is a marvelous weapon. Assuming I could get some common replacement parts as part of my pre-ZA loadout, I would gladly settle on this weapon. The ammo is heavier than 9mm ammo, but I would take the trade off for the range offered by the UMP. The ammo would still be lighter than taking .223 or 7.62 x 39 ammo. Further, .45 ACP ammo is one of the most common calibers available in the US. Reloads would be easy to obtain. The Vector is appealing because there is a version with a mounted silencer, but silencing a .45 round is questionable at best and after going over some range data on both guns, the UMP is my choice.
There you have it.. my choice from the above graphic for a ZA weapon The H&K UMP in .45 ACP caliber . But wait, there is more.
First, I want to express my complete disgust that not one shotgun was pictured in the graphic. There are plenty of military shotguns (both automatic, semi automatic and pump) that should have been included and given that a 12 gauge round could easily remove the head of a Zed at short range, the lack was noticeable. The downsides to a shotgun are range and weight, but the lethality of a shotgun VS a Zed is something to be considered. If you cant put 10 rounds into the X ring at 50 yards with a rifle, you can certainly remove the X ring with a shotgun.
Second, my actual choice of a ZA gun did not appear on the graphic (not surprising given that it isnt a military weapon). I have been doing a lot research lately on a pistol and carbine produced by Keltec the PMR 30 pistol and the RMR 30 carbine. The pistol is currently available and the Carbine is slated to ship by the end of this year. I have fired the pistol and seen one of the prototypes of the carbine and they both excite me a LOT in terms of a perfect Zombie Apocalypse weapon.
What excites me about these weapons is the caliber and capacity. They use 30 round clips of .22 magnum ammo. This round is capable of accurately reaching 100 yards, it is powerful enough to penetrate the brainpan of a Zed and the ammo is ridiculously light. Further, the ammo is readily available anywhere in America and you wont be competing for that ammo with those using .223 or any other caliber. The carbine (according to tests run by many of the gun trade magazines) is deadly accurate at 50 and 100 yards, both the carbine and the pistol are designed to accept a variety of accessories and either could be easily modified to accept a silencer. The .22 magnum round is quite capable of being suppressed and this would save you the trouble of using your self defense weapon only to ring the dinner bell.
So there you have it. My choice from the graphic would be the H&K UMP but my actual choice would be the Keltec PMP 30 and RMR 30 carbine.
Feel free to discuss your choice
Gonna miss...cuz AMC no longer on DISH!
I'm there! Can't wait.
There were a couple more. At the start of the pilot episode, when Rick and Shane were together in the cop car, Shane related a girlfriend's angst about global warming.
Lori is---or was----against the death penalty.
Jenner, the CDC doctor, exclaimed that it was silly for the world to depend on fossil fuels. And the French---the French!---were the heroes of the world, who stuck it out doing research into the cause of the zombie plague after everyone else had ditched it, LOL.
I just figure anything made in Hollywood is going to be stamped with the liberal mindset.
That show with the Hispanics in the nursing home was the worst one of the whole series. On the season 2 DVD they have an unaired 11 minute clip tht never made the show where they go back to the nursing home & everyone has been shot to death....most likey by a roving gang. The walkers where there eating them when Rick & the gang showed up.
OK, I’m on there now watching the one leading up to the new one. I thought you would post on this thread.
My choice. The fireball will incinerate ‘em if you miss!
#9: Mosin-Nagant M44
Speaking of guns without safeties, here’s the Mosin-Nagant M44 Carbine from Russia. The Mosin was used by the Russians against the Finns, the Finns against the Russians, the Estonians against the Russians, the Russians against the Russians, and the Russians against the Germans. It does, in fact, have a safety, but it’s quite hard to engage. But this is not a complaint one would ever voice in the Red Army. Your officer would reply, “Safety? Safety? Is gun! Meant to kill! No warrior should know he has safety on gun, because he should be killing enemies of homeland! Safety make loud click to aid enemy in locating warriors! No safety!” while pounding his fist on the table.
And the Mosin can kill enemies of homeland. The muzzle blast will vaporize green growth within a few feet of the muzzle, and even if you miss, the enemy will be reduced to shouting “WHAT?” to communicate. You’ll need a recoil pad or shooting jacket. Ordinarily, this might be considered unmanly, but this rifle has a short stock for using while wearing several layers of wool for a Russian winter. It is acceptable to wear padding to fire a Mosin.
Of course, there are also M38, 91/30 and other variations of Mosin-Nagant and all are cool. All, also (except the M38), come with a bayonet. Russian doctrine held that the bayonet was mounted except while traveling in a vehicle, because the Russians understood that an empty rifle could still be a pointy sticka Viking spear. The Russians loved to spear Turks. So, coincidentally, did the Vikings. This rifle sounds better all the time, doesn’t it? The Finns used the Mosin as a sniper rifle during the Winter War, and their greatest Sniper was Simo Häyhä, who had 500 confirmed kills in 100 days. This is a man the Finns describe as “modest” and “self-effacing.” It’s a good thing the Russians didn’t run into a Finn who was proud and arrogant. They’d have been wiped out.
It fires a 7.62X54R (for “Rimmed”) cartridge, about as powerful as .30-06, and holds the distinction of being in service from 1891 to the present, longer than any other military cartridge. It is still used in Dragunovs, PKMs and other Russian weapons. It’s cheap in quantity. So are the rifles, because they were built for (all variations) over 70 years, by Russia, Finland, Poland, Romania, even the US. As I write this, arsenal-new M44s are $55 to $200. At that price, you should have several, so any guests you have during the Collapse can be outfitted as they receive Enlightenment. Then they can rape, kill, sack and loot with the rest of the men who secure a new Dark Ages to hasten the new renaissance. It will be a manly duty.
LOL. He sure did. I guess the writers were determined to make him a good liberal. /s
You know it, LOL.
Is it the season ender, where the farm gets overrun?
Is it the season ender, where the farm gets overrun?
That was a close call for Herschel and his infinity shotgun.
“Herschel and his infinity shotgun”.....dang right it shoots 28 times and has a pilot light that flames after you shoot it `````````````````
the one thing you have to remember is multiple weapons, several that don’t require ammo. good edge weapons. if i were in the situation, some good kukri machetes with full handguards would be my choice. two, in case one failed or i needed both at the same time.
Oh wow. They should have aired that on television, it would have made more sense. I was wondering the whole time while watching that episode how they would have been able to remain safe in the same place (safety/sanitation/food). Maybe they made that episode thinking they would air the aftermath and it didn’t make it so the viewers were left wondering why it was even presented in the first place. Thanks.
Bummer its on AMC, never saw any episode and now I’m interested Dish cancels AMC, guess I’ll have to get the first two seasons on DVD.
now that would have been more in line with real human nature in a major apocalyptic and still dangerous disaster.
zombie entitlement crowd.
handouts.... handouts... entitlements.... want your money.... i deserve it...
IT’S COMING ON!
Actually, taking a prison makes excellent sense.
Not to mention its fun to sit in the tower and thin the herd.
They must be cutting back on their budget this year - I noticed that none of the slides on the semi-auto pistols kicked back after each shot and wheels didn’t turn on any revolvers either. I guess maybe they decided to used CGI instead.
Going “hand-to-hand” against these prison zombies sounds like a really bad idea.
My son and wife got me hooked on this show last season.
A short story (free online) where zombies are protected and used for population control.
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