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Dell will continue selling Windows 7
Fudzilla ^ | Monday, 15 October 2012 11:42 | Nick Farrell

Posted on 10/15/2012 7:52:49 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach


Not sure about this eight lark

Tinman Michael Dell has said that he will continue to flog Windows 7 machines after Windows 8 hits the shops. The move is being seen as a note of caution, because some analysts are not sure how successful Windows 8 will be.

Windows 7 is seen as a good stable operating system, particularly after the disaster that was Vista. Windows 7, which reached PCs in October of 2009, will be offered as an option to commercial and gaming customers. In fact Dell has said that it will offer Windows 7 as long as it is allowed to.

Apparently Dell is still moving business customers from XP to Windows 7. The company is continuing to recommend that customers migrate to Windows 7 and that those who need touch capabilities on PCs adopt Windows 8, a Dell spokesman said.

Both Windows 7 and 8 will be offered as options on the Latitude, OptiPlex and Precision brands, the company said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: dell; hitech; windows7; windows8

1 posted on 10/15/2012 7:52:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have been using the trial Windows 8 and love it.


2 posted on 10/15/2012 7:56:35 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wonder if BestBuy is gonna give Mom and Pop and Grandpaw a Windows 7 option or if they’ll simply try to shove the totally dysfunctional Windows 8 down their throats? My guess is it will be throat-shoving all the way. I just so hope that Mom and Pop and Grandpaw will have the guts to take their crappy Windows 8 PCs back to BestBuy and demand a refund.


3 posted on 10/15/2012 7:57:28 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I was working on my mother’s computer - Windows 7 - and HATED it. Nothing was where it should be, it was hard to get at and hard to change settings.

I get new computers every two years or so - and stick with XP. The first thing I do when I get new OS is make look like the previous OS. It pisses me off that Microsoft changes stuff, just for the sake of change. Worse, they make it harder to find stuff, or to get at controls. They attempt to simplify things, and frustrate those of us who knew how to customize their previous OS into a useful format. Really, I truly hate them for that.

Oh, and IE9 stinks on ice, too.


4 posted on 10/15/2012 8:03:52 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Speaking only for myself as a professional who sits at the computer all day, I don’t want an operating system that is predicated on a touch-screen interface. I have a tablet and a smart phone, and I much prefer to use a mouse and keyboard over the touch screen interface for most of my day-to-day tasks.


5 posted on 10/15/2012 8:05:21 AM PDT by MortMan (Laughter is the best medicine, especially when ridiculing your enemies.)
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To: catnipman

“dysfunctional Windows 8” Where does that statement come from?


6 posted on 10/15/2012 8:10:13 AM PDT by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Little Ray

“It pisses me off that Microsoft changes stuff, just for the sake of change.”

Come over to the Force, Luke. I rebelled at Vista and went over to Linux. Absolutely no regrets.


7 posted on 10/15/2012 8:21:03 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

IOW, Dell still has a lot of Windows 7 in a warehouse that haven’t sold.


8 posted on 10/15/2012 8:24:39 AM PDT by bgill
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To: catnipman

There are lots of other places to buy your computer besides BestBuy. But who knows, gram & gramps might like Windows 8.

Businesses are always slow to adopt the latest thing, which in the case of Vista they were smart to totally blow it off.


9 posted on 10/15/2012 8:26:42 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: TexasRepublic

I work on Linux every day - for servers. Very reliable.
Not so crazy about Linux GUIs like Xwindows, though. And, old as I am, I have adapted to GUIs and kind of like them (though I miss DOS 3.0 sometimes...).


10 posted on 10/15/2012 8:27:36 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: ShadowAce

For your Tech Ping list...


11 posted on 10/15/2012 8:34:16 AM PDT by CedarDave (Presstitutes: Journalists who refuse to ask hard questions and who report by omission or distortion)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

DELL sold XP after M$ wanted them to stop, too.


12 posted on 10/15/2012 8:36:56 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: TexasRepublic
Come over to the Force, Luke. I rebelled at Vista and went over to Linux. Absolutely no regrets.

I loathe and despise *nix. It's way too brittle, file-permissions and groups and how they need to be just so (and get messed up at the slightest provocation) as just one example. It's design philosophy I find repugnant, unsurprising considering C's philosophy*: no, everything is not a file.

*It could be worse, they could have gone with PHP's philosophy. {Where 'magic' automatic conversions fail, give no warning, and give absolutely incorrect results: "09" as an integer is 0.}

13 posted on 10/15/2012 8:37:06 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MortMan

And after years of training the Grand Kids to keep their dirty little paws off the walls, windows, TV and computer screens...


14 posted on 10/15/2012 8:40:58 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Little Ray

TOTALLY COMPUTER IGNORANT HERE!!!

When the hard drive in my XP puter fried I bought a new one...it had 8. Several times MS would up-date it and I would find my screen had changed. A much younger friend (grand child age) would come over and set things right. Then her family was going to move. She showed me how to go to a restore point and stop the automatic up-dates. Now I have a stack of 65 “important” up-dates and 4 optionals. When I read the up dates, I understand NOTHING, so they stay on the list. Since I use the computer only for photos, surfing, emails, shopping, occassional CC payments and access to my former employer’s (I’m retired) benefit center, how much am I tempting fate by continuing to ignore these up dates?

TIA


15 posted on 10/15/2012 8:44:32 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So I should upgrade from Windows 95?


16 posted on 10/15/2012 8:46:19 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker (Oppose Senate Amendment S.A. 2575! I need more than 10 rounds in my magazine.)
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To: Roccus; Little Ray

I know I said I have Windows 8, but it may be 7. It is the one that came out after XP but NOT Vista.

How can I tell if it’s 7 or 8?


17 posted on 10/15/2012 8:48:42 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Apparently Dell is still moving business customers from XP to Windows 7.

We are resisting. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

At home I see no need for no stinkin new operating system.

18 posted on 10/15/2012 8:48:53 AM PDT by McGruff (I love the smell of DESPERATION in the morning. Smells like victory!)
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To: MortMan

Ditto!


19 posted on 10/15/2012 8:52:50 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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To: Roccus; Little Ray

It’s 7...sorry for the confusion...see, I told you I was ignorant :)


20 posted on 10/15/2012 9:02:03 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

As numerous articles have been suggesting, Windows 8 has two major changes: It changes the appearance of the screen from the current desktop, icons, and start button. And it favors the use of touch screen over keypad and mouse. It is primarily designed for tablets, and is awkward to use on a laptop or desktop computer.

That can be compensated for by providing a usable keyboard and mouse. Dell is, as I hoped, apparently doing that. So you can buy Windows 8 from them with a stand to hold the screen in position, and a decent mouse and keypad.

Or, in case that doesn’t work, you can stick with Windows 7 until we see whether or not Windows 8 catches on.

A recent article says that Dell will offer several options that will allow touch operation OR decent keyboard and mouse operation:

http://betanews.com/2012/10/12/dell-offers-new-touch-enabled-pcs-for-windows-8-day/


21 posted on 10/15/2012 9:27:26 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Do not want.
22 posted on 10/15/2012 9:33:26 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Little Ray

In Windows 7 you don’t need to know where things are like you did in XP. Just use the search bar to find things.


23 posted on 10/15/2012 9:39:21 AM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: bgill

“IOW, Dell still has a lot of Windows 7 in a warehouse that haven’t sold.”

You really don’t know much about how to deploy operating systems these days, do you? OEM images are not deployed with a warehouse full of DVD discs. While I don’t know exactly how Dell deploys their images I do know that it is absurd to propose that they do so with a ‘warehouse’ full of DVDs. The standard for OEM and most enterprises anymore is to deploy images via one of a myriad of options like Microsoft SCCM.


24 posted on 10/15/2012 9:47:39 AM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: ari-freedom

You realize that you can use your old desktop (W7) right?


25 posted on 10/15/2012 9:54:32 AM PDT by BillM (.)
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To: ari-freedom
Do not want.

Indeed. Linux works fine for me. Wife recently got a Macbook. Can't say that I particularly like the way it works either. I guess I like having control of my computer and data too much.

26 posted on 10/15/2012 9:56:58 AM PDT by zeugma (Rid the world of those savages. - Dorothy Woods, widow of a Navy Seal, AMEN!)
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To: ari-freedom

Gads, it looks like a mess.


27 posted on 10/15/2012 10:02:57 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: MeganC

I don’t want to use the search bar. I want them back in the proper locations. I’ve been an admin level user for 20 years. I don’t like be reduced to using search bars.


28 posted on 10/15/2012 10:04:13 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: MeganC

Pardon me. I meant to say Windows 7 installed COMPUTERS, but carry on.


29 posted on 10/15/2012 10:54:00 AM PDT by bgill
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To: catnipman
I wonder if BestBuy is gonna give Mom and Pop and Grandpaw a Windows 7 option or if they’ll simply try to shove the totally dysfunctional Windows 8 down their throats? My guess is it will be throat-shoving all the way.

No need for pessimism. People aren't stupid; even Mom,Pop and Grandpaw.

Two words for you:

Windows Vista.

Neither Microsoft, nor Technogeeks, nor PC manufacturers, were able to shove that loser down the throats of anybody, but the terminally and totally clueless.

30 posted on 10/15/2012 10:56:22 AM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: BillM

Didn’t the RTM version of W8 drop or cripple that workaround?


31 posted on 10/15/2012 11:27:30 AM PDT by ken in texas (I was taught to respect my elders but it keeps getting harder to find any.)
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To: Cold Heart
And after years of training the Grand Kids to keep their dirty little paws off the walls, windows, TV and computer screens...

Never mind the kids.

Nobody's hands are clean and oil-free enough to prevent the need for non-stop screen cleaning. Don't know about everyone else, but I enjoy knowing if that's a decimal point or dust/pizza/danish/donut/potato chip/ residue up on the screen.

Whose bright idea was that touch screen stuff, anyway?

32 posted on 10/15/2012 11:29:08 AM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Little Ray

“I don’t want to use the search bar. I want them back in the proper locations. I’ve been an admin level user for 20 years. I don’t like be reduced to using search bars.”

I long used the full path to get to Disk Cleanup and Disk Defragmenter in Windows XP (Start > Programs > Accessories > System Tools) and now just type ‘Disk’ in the search bar and there they are. It saves a lot of time. I also find things like the TPM console by just typing TPM.msc instead of hunting around for it. Saves a lot of time.

While there maybe are arguments for knowing where things are even if you do know where they are (like with the aforementione tools) you can still get to them faster with the search bar.

Like you I didn’t take easily to the changes, but once I did I really started to like them. Now I rely on them. I’m also a huge fan of the Aero features in Windows 7 for saving time on the Desktop.


33 posted on 10/15/2012 11:32:29 AM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: bgill

Even then there’s no warehouses filled with computers. Dell and HP makes most of their machines to order and they use ‘just in time’ manufacturing techniques to save on warehousing costs.

All of this means that Dell is sticking with Windows 7 because it is a better OS than Windows 8 for most users (I agree), not that they’re married to it because they invested in a bunch of stuff they need to sell off.


34 posted on 10/15/2012 11:35:02 AM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; a fool in paradise

I’ve just ordered a Mac Pro computer specifically asking that they NOT put Windows 8 on it!


35 posted on 10/15/2012 11:38:48 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong!)
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To: Roccus
Since I use the computer only for photos, surfing, emails, shopping, occassional CC payments and access to my former employer’s (I’m retired) benefit center, how much am I tempting fate by continuing to ignore these up dates?

A LOT more than you want to know.

The only way to prevent viruses, trojan horses, etc. altogether is never to access the internet, which pretty much prevents all the activities you've listed.

Plus you would have to prevent the use of any USB memory sticks from external sources, too.

Bottom line?
Find out if your Internet Provider furnishes an antivirus protection suite upon request.
You shouldn't ignore critical Windows updates; that's just asking for it.
Just opening the wrong email could ruin your entire month.

36 posted on 10/15/2012 11:54:49 AM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: publius911

Thanks for your reply.

I have AVG and I NEVER open any email where I do not know the sender. Memory sticks are a mystery to me so I do not use them. I live alone and no one has access but me.

Is there any way I can tell if these “critical” updates will alter the way I have my computer screen set up as has happened when I allowed them to up date automatically


37 posted on 10/15/2012 12:14:39 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Little Ray
I don’t want to use the search bar. I want them back in the proper locations. I’ve been an admin level user for 20 years. I don’t like be reduced to using search bars.

It would be bad enough, but in Win7 if you create a favorite TAB in the favorites BAR by mistake, try getting rid of it!

If it ain't broke, don't "fix it."

38 posted on 10/15/2012 12:20:33 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: MeganC
All of this means that Dell is sticking with Windows 7 because it is a better OS than Windows 8 for most users (I agree), not that they’re married to it because they invested in a bunch of stuff they need to sell off.

Think outside the box.
The poster is referring to the OS, which is not subject to "Just in time" limitations. The arrangement between Dell and MS might not have limited the total number of OEM Win7 OSs Dell could install.

39 posted on 10/15/2012 12:26:05 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Roccus
Is there any way I can tell if these “critical” updates will alter the way I have my computer screen set up as has happened when I allowed them to up date automatically

Unfortunatel, there is no way to tell ahead of time, specially with Win7 which I al stll trying to lern. Experience has taught me that anything is possible after a critical update. With Microsoft, that is never likely to change.
The question is, do the new "problems" outweigh the benefits? With a good antivirus suite, I think so.

Heck, I've never figured out a way to prevent updates from scrambling my desktop icons in Win 95, Win98, WinXP or now Win XP!

40 posted on 10/15/2012 12:36:39 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I keep hearing about how bad Vista was. I never had a problem with it and I absolutely loathe Windows 7 new format of libraries.


41 posted on 10/15/2012 12:49:51 PM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk oMnly to me.)
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To: publius911
The question is, do the new "problems" outweigh the benefits? With a good antivirus suite, I think so.

OK, thanks. I think I'll just let sleeping up-dates lie. ;)

42 posted on 10/15/2012 1:47:49 PM PDT by Roccus
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