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Woman Spent One Year Following The Bibles's Literal Instruction For Women
The Daily Mail ^ | 10-16-12 | Daily Reporter

Posted on 10/16/2012 7:09:14 AM PDT by trailhkr1

A blogger who spent one year following all of the Bible’s instructions for women, from making her own clothes to 'submitting' to her husband, has now written a book about her experience.

Rachel Held Evans’ book, A Year of Biblical Womanhood, chronicles her 12 month attempt to obey the Bible's commandments for women.

The Bible gives hundreds of rules for women to follow, both explicit and implied, in the Old Testament and the New.

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1 posted on 10/16/2012 7:09:17 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1
This woman is being deliberately obtuse - what she's doing has nothing to do with Christianity.

But I'm sure its an entertaining book.

2 posted on 10/16/2012 7:16:46 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: trailhkr1
What man can argue with the wisdom of the bible:

During the days she was menstruating over the course of the year, the Tennessee-based writer, 31, a Christian who describes herself as 'liberated', stayed home from church, carried around a seat cushion to avoid sitting on chairs outside her home, abstained from sex and touching her husband, grew her hair out and slept in a tent.

3 posted on 10/16/2012 7:16:50 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: skeeter

Did she drag the stove out in the yard that time of the month or did she pre-prepare the meals for her “master”??


4 posted on 10/16/2012 7:19:04 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Raycpa

Um... Many Old Testament rules were dropped for the New Testament.

Or did she also sacrifice animals?


5 posted on 10/16/2012 7:19:10 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: trailhkr1

Guess you’ll have to buy the book to find out.


6 posted on 10/16/2012 7:22:47 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: trailhkr1
I am highly suspicious of the author's motives here. However, — again — Old Testament law was for ancient Israel. It was for their benefit and to focus their faith on the future Savior. Once the Savior came, the New Testament superseded the “law”. Did she sacrifice animals too? Or is this really just an attempt to try and discredit Judasim and Christianity?
7 posted on 10/16/2012 7:24:16 AM PDT by Obadiah (The corrupt MSM is the enemy of the American people.)
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To: trailhkr1

while the story was interesting, the posts were very amusing, every heard of Pascal’s wager? its safer to believe and be wrong than to not to believe and be wrong.


8 posted on 10/16/2012 7:24:16 AM PDT by Docbarleypop
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To: trailhkr1

She forgot the part about replacing the old law with the new.

If you’re going to claim to “follow the instructions”, then you have to pay attention when the instructions say, “Don’t do that anymore”.


9 posted on 10/16/2012 7:25:16 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: GeronL
Um... Many Old Testament rules were dropped for the New Testament.

You have to grant that nobody is ever particularly clear what parts of the Old Testament can be safely ignored and what parts result in you going straight to Hell if you ignore them.

Might have been nice if a "list of changes and revisions" like in a military doctrine manual, was issued along with the New Testament.

10 posted on 10/16/2012 7:26:20 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: GeronL

I’m not here to argue over shell fish.

However, I always saw the rule of removing the woman while having her period as having interesting side effects.

Of course there is the peace it brings to a married couple when the woman’s hormones can create turmoil. Then there is the time the woman has to herself away from daily responsibilities. I imagine that every modern woman would be grateful if they had a mandatory time out once every 4 weeks.

Finally,there is the natural consequence of the man and the woman’s children of having to take over the woman’s tasks. This would make for a well rounded family.


11 posted on 10/16/2012 7:27:48 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: GeronL

Old Testament - The Law
New Testament - Grace


12 posted on 10/16/2012 7:29:19 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: trailhkr1

big fascination about menstrating, very little about anything else, like cooking, sewing, etc...


13 posted on 10/16/2012 7:29:59 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: trailhkr1

During the year, she learned to “sew” and “cook.” Ooh, how demeaning.


14 posted on 10/16/2012 7:31:28 AM PDT by twister881
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To: trailhkr1
A blogger who spent one year following all of the Bible’s instructions for women, from making her own clothes to 'submitting' to her husband, has now written a book about her experience. Rachel Held Evans’ book, A Year of Biblical Womanhood, chronicles her 12 month attempt to obey the Bible's commandments for women. The Bible gives hundreds of rules for women to follow, both explicit and implied, in the Old Testament and the New.

It also gives ten commandments for both men and women to keep. Did Rachel Held Evans keep every one of those, too?

15 posted on 10/16/2012 7:33:45 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: Raycpa
"However, I always saw the rule of removing the woman while having her period as having interesting side effects.

Of course there is the peace it brings to a married couple when the woman’s hormones can create turmoil"

My husband could attest to that...he just removes himself to the basement for a couple of days, LOL.

16 posted on 10/16/2012 7:36:21 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: Docbarleypop
its safer to believe and be wrong than to not to believe and be wrong.

Beliefs belong in church.

QED!

17 posted on 10/16/2012 7:37:03 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Strategerist
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. [Galatians 5:18]
18 posted on 10/16/2012 7:38:26 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Strategerist

True, but the Holy Spirit offers us wisdom and the overall principle in the New Testament is that all things are “legal” in Christ but not all things are worthwhile.

The Law of the Old Testament was to prove, in essence, that Man could never approach the holiness of God - that even something as seemingly simple as the Ten Commandments was impossible to keep without ever violating. Then Jesus blew that out of the water by throwing in things like lust and hate. The only way to approach God’s holiness is by grace through faith in Christ’s redeeming power.

Therefore, there were no longer dietary laws or laws against intermarriage or demands for circumcision, only to believe in Christ and receive His free gift of salvation then, out of reverence, seek His will, do good and not provide a stumbling block for others.

As for this woman, all she really needed to do was to recognize that Christ is the head of His church and that her husband is the head of their household and that the Christian husband is subjected to Christ.

For the military-minded, there is a chain-of command: Father-Son-Church-Husbands-Wives-Children. When each responds to those lower than them out of love and responds to each above their rank with obedience, everything works superbly.


19 posted on 10/16/2012 7:43:02 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: OldNavyVet
Beliefs belong in church.

To paraphase a famous quotation ...

So many religions, so little time.

20 posted on 10/16/2012 7:44:26 AM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: twister881

I’ve tried to sew several times. It takes either talent or patience I haven’t found yet.


21 posted on 10/16/2012 7:44:52 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: Alex Murphy
It also gives ten commandments for both men and women to keep. Did Rachel Held Evans keep every one of those, too?

 

The New Testament tells uis the answer is no. No, she did not keep all the commandments. And in her silly little excercise to live like an authentic Old Testament wife; she failed.

That's why Christ came. To fulfill the law and offer a perfect plan of forgiveness that the Law never offered. But of course - you know this.

 

22 posted on 10/16/2012 7:45:35 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: trailhkr1
The woman in the article describes herself as a "liberated" Christian. I'd be really interested in asking her what she thinks she's liberated from.

Also, I wonder if she included in her book any of the Bible's instructions on how men are to treat their wives...i.e., cherish them and love them as Christ loves the church. I'm guessing she didn't. Her book seems like an attempt to paint the Bible as anti-woman.

As an aside, I really don't get some females' fascination with the vagina, and the fairly recent tendency to revere it as some kind of sacred object.

23 posted on 10/16/2012 7:49:22 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Don't be afraid to see what you see. (Ronald Reagan))
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To: Strategerist

Speaking through the Holy Spirit, Paul explains it completely in Galatians 3.


24 posted on 10/16/2012 7:56:28 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Strategerist

Acts 15 (New International Version)

New International Version (NIV)
The Council at Jerusalem

15 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon[a] has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

16 “‘After this I will return
and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’[b]—
18 things known from long ago.[c]

19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”


25 posted on 10/16/2012 8:07:52 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Baynative
I’ve tried to sew several times. It takes either talent or patience I haven’t found yet.

Why sew other than the fun of doing it if you are into that?? Clothes are so cheap with 3rd world labor I would think it would cost more just to buy the material...

Last month bought some Dockers short sleeve dress shirts (normally priced at $35-40) for $10 each, combination of Sears wanting to get rid of summer clothes, on sale + a coupon.

26 posted on 10/16/2012 8:08:33 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: Baynative
I’ve tried to sew several times. It takes either talent or patience I haven’t found yet.

If you are still interested in learning to sew, I taught myself using this book, Sew What Skirts and another book listed on that page, "The Sew Everything Workshop."

We had to take sewing in junior high and I was terrible at it. I figured I didn't have the sewing gene. But in 2011 I wanted to see if I could teach myself to do it (I couldn't find anything I liked in stores). Those two books made it really easy to learn. I started with some easy projects before going to the skirts. But the nice thing about the Sew What Skirts book is that you actually draft your own patterns, using your own measurements. It sounds intimidating, but trust me, I'm horrible at math, have absolutely no patience and I have drafted several of the patterns with no problem at all. I mainly used the drawstring waist A line and the wrap skirt, but they are perfect for summer and warmer fall days with tights.

27 posted on 10/16/2012 8:10:53 AM PDT by retrokitten
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To: trailhkr1

I wouldn’t dream of making clothes from scratch. I was just trying to do basic repairs on things too good to discard, like the inner lining on a favorite jacket and a 90° snag on a brand new pair of insulated Carhart jeans.


28 posted on 10/16/2012 8:20:34 AM PDT by Baynative
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To: trailhkr1

I enjoy sewing and I have made everything from a suit for my husband to wedding dresses and prom dresses.
I am also a Christian who is on my third reading of the Bible. I can honestly say that I have yet to come across a scripture that commands women to make their own clothes!
I know the Proverbs 31 woman is mentioned as making clothing for her family but in those days it was a necessity, not a God given requirement.
That said, I’m headed to Amazon to purchase “Sew What Skirts” both for myself and to teach my granddaughters to sew!


29 posted on 10/16/2012 8:29:31 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: svcw

As a Christian I firmly believe that Jesus fulfilled the Law and replaced it with Grace. My relationship with God is no longer dependent on my actions.

However, something that has fascinated me for years is the science aspect of Kosher and other hygene laws in the Old Testament. God provided Isreal with rules to follow to not only show obedience, but as a loving Father would, He gave rules that were also good for the health and well being of His children.

Preppers should take note of the Old Testament - God has provided rules to help live healthy in a more primitive infrastructure world.


30 posted on 10/16/2012 8:29:39 AM PDT by 5thGenTexan
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To: trailhkr1

Without actually reading the whole article, I presume that she did this, not as a religious act or experiment, but solely to announce what she had done, become famous, write a book, go on talk shows, and make money.

And, incidentally, to try to undermine religion.


31 posted on 10/16/2012 8:35:18 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 5thGenTexan

Agreed.


32 posted on 10/16/2012 8:40:55 AM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: Docbarleypop

What is the difference between saying one believes something and actually believing it?

Can people make themselves truly believe something that they once could not believe? If so, how is that accomplished?


33 posted on 10/16/2012 8:49:03 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: retrokitten

Do those books teach you how to adjust the top and bottom tensions? I never sew because I can never get the tensions right. :~/


34 posted on 10/16/2012 8:52:13 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Gingrich or bust! (5/7/12, I guess it's bust.))
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To: twister881

She should have learned that long ago, as any gender of child growing up.


35 posted on 10/16/2012 8:53:49 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Raycpa

“During the days she was menstruating...[she] grew her hair out and slept in a tent.”

She should have been walking the perimeter. Nobody, but nobody would hassle her!!


36 posted on 10/16/2012 8:57:12 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Raycpa

I imagine back then, it was more the other women in the household that took over her duties, not the men. They just didn’t want her around because she was unclean.


37 posted on 10/16/2012 8:58:10 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

If you are talking about Christian faith, the belief comes from the work of the Holy Spirit plus the life lessons we encounter. From that, yes, we can change our spiritual beliefs.

However, not all who claim to believe do so with their heart but do so to influence others or to hope to escape punishment.

For example, some prisoners claim to become Christians while in jail. Some do it in hope of more leniency from the prison system or because they think they can get sympathy from judges or jurors. Some do it to try to avoid punishment. But some truly believe and change their lives. Personally, I don’t believe a religious conversion should change anyone’s punishment with regard to crimes against the state but if the heart truly changed, it is up to that individual to seek forgiveness from those who he/she wronged and pay one’s debt to society in full then demonstrate their changed lives if/when they are released.


38 posted on 10/16/2012 9:03:45 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Baynative
I’ve tried to sew several times. It takes either talent or patience I haven’t found yet.

If you ever decide to pray about it, pray for talent. NEVER pray for patience. I learned that lesson the hard way.

39 posted on 10/16/2012 9:04:36 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

That’s more your sewing machine operation then actually sewing pieces together, but The Complete Sewing Workshop book probably addresses it. They go over basic operations that are similar on most machines, loading the bobbin for example.

I’ve never adjusted the top tension on my machine. I don’t even think I would know how, but I did adjust the bottom tension because the factory setting seemed to be really loose (who knows, it could have loosened in shipping or something). I still consider myself a mega-novice, but my advice about adjusting the bottom tension is to go slowly and turn it very, very slightly then test it on scrap fabric. When I adjusted mine, I think I turned it around an eighth of an inch or less. The stitches should lie flat, look neat, and have no pull or slack.

It may sound silly, but check out You Tube. There are tutorials on everything and I would not be at all surprised if there were at least a dozen videos on adjusting your sewing machine tension.


40 posted on 10/16/2012 9:14:06 AM PDT by retrokitten
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To: retrokitten

Ah ha! lol So, I was doing it right way back when! That’s how I used to do it. Trial and error. But I thought it was wrong cause I thought there must be an easier way that I hadn’t learned in HS. My mother used to make it look so it easy that it was discouraging. lol


41 posted on 10/16/2012 9:18:03 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (Gingrich or bust! (5/7/12, I guess it's bust.))
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To: Strategerist

i would dare say the 10 comandments are still in effect. just because Jesus summarized them to 2 - love the Lord God with all your heart, soul and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself - it didn’t replace them.

summaries are not replacements.


42 posted on 10/16/2012 9:31:50 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: trailhkr1

Oh, shes so clever and sassy. How did she ever know that the homo media would spit all over themselves if she came up with the unique idea of trashing the Bible and saying vagina?

She gonna be on tee vee? American idol in her little Christian vagina tent out back because we all know Christians are doing that all the time? Oh! Oh! She says vagina! That’s new for the homo crowd! That’s so shocking and fabulous! Christians everywhere are going to “change” into sassy little tent beans now! She showed us! Wait a minute! I think this is a tired old rerun!

One can arrive at sexual morality via the school of hard knocks or just listen to what generations before them learned the hard way. They don’t even have to open the Bible to see that there is no society on earth that is organizing itself around homos because it is not a winning human survival strategy on a micro or macro level.

Homos can do their thing in America like everyone else. We are not going to put their butt pleasure at the center of our education, families, socialization, worship, and lives. How shocking is this?


43 posted on 10/16/2012 10:19:23 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Strategerist

The laws regarding being ritually clean and unclean are not really applicable to people not going to the Temple.

As far as a list of changes and revisions refer to the letters to the Corinthians.


44 posted on 10/16/2012 11:37:53 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: stuartcr
They just didn’t want her around because she was unclean.

But they still had a break from their duties. An added thought is the arrangement would have helped create mentor relationships with the women. Both older and younger women would be meeting each other regularly each month. This would provide an environment for women to have a regular ongoing relationship with other women.

This requirement that at first brush seems like a negative for women might actually have been a positive for them when it is fully applied.

It is not unlike the procedure for handling an out of control child, namely stoning by the full community. At first brush it seems terrible but when looked at in application it has many benefits. The parents are required to agree to bring the child to the priest. In almost all cases of children out of control, the cause is that the parents do not provide an even hand. Further, the entire town has to participate in the stoning. If I were a member of that town I would surely take an interest in kids that were not behaving. I would never want to be called on to administer the punishment. Finally, the children themselves are given a pretty strong incentive to behave and listen to their parents.

45 posted on 10/16/2012 12:00:01 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: trailhkr1

what it should prove is how much more reasonable our fundamentalists are, given they don’t actually live this way. Juxtapose this to the way the kooky Islamic fundamentalists interpret how women in their culture should live.


46 posted on 10/16/2012 12:37:13 PM PDT by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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To: OrangeHoof

What life lessons can we encounter that could make one believe that a man came back from the dead?


47 posted on 10/17/2012 6:43:05 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Raycpa

How do you know they had a break? I would guess that they just ended uo doing other chores that kept them away from the house, probably digging in the garden or cleaning out stalls.


48 posted on 10/17/2012 6:46:19 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr
What life lessons can we encounter that could make one believe that a man came back from the dead?

I suppose if you hung around emergency rooms, you might know. Newsweek had an article last week about a neurosurgeon who was brain dead for a week then came out of his coma and related an amazing tale of what he experienced while "dead".

In my own life, I knew a man in his late 80s whose body seemed to be shutting down and doctors decided there was nothing they could do for him but send him home to die. They took him off all his meds other than his pain meds and you have never met a man so eager for death to come because he longed to be reunited with his deceased wife.

But something happened to Charlie West. He got better. He got so well that he got dressed and went to Sunday church services where his friends who had earlier come to say their good-byes looked on in amazement.

But Charlie was not happy about this development. He thought God was punishing him by not calling him home to be with his wife! It took another six months for Charlie's health to again deteriorate until he passed away at age 89.

While it is not a story of someone coming back from the dead, it is a testimony of someone who *wanted* to die and whom the doctors had given up on miraculously received a period of "good health" against his own wishes, proving to me that God alone chooses when we die (even those who die by their own hand or die in tragic accidents) and that He has authority over life and death.

49 posted on 10/17/2012 7:29:52 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: OrangeHoof

I agree God is in charge of everything.


50 posted on 10/17/2012 7:58:09 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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