Skip to comments.Fact Check: Does George Soros Own an Overseas Company That Will Count U.S. Votes?
Posted on 10/18/2012 12:31:44 PM PDT by Lucky9teen
Does a major Obama donor own an overseas company that will control the U.S.s entire vote-counting system? The simple answer: No. But lets expand on this because, obviously, it would be highly disturbing (to say the very least) if it were true.
The claim goes something like this [as noted by Snopes]:
The Obama administration has sold the processing rights of our votes in the general election to a company from Spain (SCYTL) It will no longer be possible to track and verify our votes. The CEO of the company donated the maximum amount to Obamas 2008 campaign.
And, according to similar emails, Scytl has strong ties to billionaire currency speculator, liberal activist, and Democrat donor George Soros (looks legit, right?):
�GEORGE SOROS, BARACK OBAMAS NUMBER ONE SUPPORTER AND SOURCE OF THE PRESIDENTS LARGEST CORPORATE DONATIONS, WILL CONTROL YOUR VOTES IN THE UP COMING PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION � Follow the bouncing ball on the criminal corruption ruse of your USA votes.
1.) The Obama Government has outsourced the counting of votes for the 2012 election. But since WHEN does the nation need to outsource a task as uncomplicated and straightforward as vote-counting?
2.) Obama outsourced the counting to a Tampa Florida company, named SOE, that had previously been used to administer the vote counting process for over 500 American jurisdictions.
3.) But recently, SOE software has now been sold to a company named SCYTL, owned by George Soros, headquartered in Spain.
4.) The votes will go to SCYTL, the question becomes as to WHY Must local votes for each precinct will be downloaded to SCYTL�s main server � leaving no TRACEABLE record of how many, and what votes were scored! Which of course means that said votes will be MERGED; and any discrepancies at lower levels will be IMPOSSIBLE to track.
5.) But wait, it gets murkier: SCYTL is shadow owned by Pere Valles, a former CEO of Global Net; who just HAPPENS to have been a maximum level contributor to the Obama Campaign in 2008. Not surprisingly, Valles is also has contacts with Media Matters, a communication consortium owned by: George Soros.
6.) Now the bad news: according to the �Black Box� voting site, this centralizes one �middleman� access point for over 525 voting jurisdictions: (AL, AZ, CA, CO, DC, FL, KY, MI, KS, IL, IN, NC, NM, MN, NY, SC, TX, UT, WA. � and growing).�
Now before you batten down the hatches and start freaking out, lets dig a little deeper. Snopes and conservative authoress Michelle Malkin make quick work of the rumor and thoroughly debunks this mess. From Snopes:
The Obama administration could not possibly have sold the processing rights of our votes in the general election to Scytl, as the federal government does not run elections: individual states do. Its up to each state to determine on its own how to conduct its elections and what voting systems to use.
Moreover, its highly unlikely any states will be choosing to use systems like Scytls to implement online voting on anything more than a very limited basis in the 2012 general election. Scytls current list of customers includes only four U.S. states plus the District of Columbia, all of whom have so far limited their use of Scytl systems to providing a means for overseas (i.e., military and absentee) voters to cast their ballots remotely.
The Snopes analysis goes on to cite an article from Discovery News which notes that even on the rare occasion when online voting was used, it failed to work in some cases and those systems will not be revisited in 2012. The analysis also adds:
(SOE software does have a more expansive roster of U.S. customers, but their products are aimed at providing ancillary services to local governments such as helping constituents communicate with government offices or displaying election results, not systems to record and tabulate votes.)
Malkin notes that, contrary to what the emails claim, Scytls acquisition of SOE software does not equal a vote-counting takeover:
While SOE boasts of a presence with 900 jurisdictions as customers in 26 states, there is no single contract that the federal government has entered into, or could, with Scytl to count the 2012 presidential election votes. Much of the work Scytl/SOE analysts do is number-crunching and graphics software work after local and state officials have done the vote-counting.
Scytl does have a contract with the feds to use its technology to help overseas and military voters participate in elections. In 2009, the Military and Overseas Voter Empowerment Act mandated that U.S. jurisdictions allow uniformed and overseas citizens to receive and track their ballots electronically. Scytls online ballot program was used in 14 states during the 2010 midterms.
Okay, nothing there. Whats the next point? From Snopes:
The security and auditability of online voting systems remains a subject of debate, which, as noted above, makes it quite improbable there will be any statewide (much less nationwide) use of systems like Scytls in tabulating votes for the 2012 presidential election.
Snopes analysis goes on to highlight an article by Steve Wildstrom, writing in Tech.pinions, which clearly outlines the security difficulties in implementing these types of systems. And Wildstrom isnt alone. A whole host of experts in electronic security industry agree that no type of system will be put in place in the U.S. any time soon.
But heres where it get really good. Snopes takes a look at Scytls CEO Pere Vallés and his supposed connections to the Democrat Party:
Despite claims that Pere Vallés donated heavily to the 2008 Obama campaign, a search of all donors to the 2008 presidential campaign of Barack Obama does not turn up a contribution (of any size) from anyone with that name.
And, of course, theres the fact that theres no evidence supporting the common rumor that financier George Soros holds an ownership stake in Scytl.
Indeed, Scytls investors are Nauta Capital, Balderton Capital, and Spinnaker SCR.
Soros doesnt own any of these international venture capital firms and as far as my research shows, he has no involvement whatsoever with any of them, Malkin writes.
Moreover, Scytls board of directors doesnt include anyone with Soros financial or management ties. Pressed for evidence, one Internet conspiracy nut cited an invitation only event in Moldova that listed both the Soros Foundation Moldova and Scytl as attendees, she adds.
Okay, lets recap: Were supposed to believe that the election is being stolen by a Sores-connected company run by a shady Democrat CEO, right? Well, aside from the fact that the company has no ties to Soros and the CEO has no record of ever contributing money to President Obama (as the emails claim), why not?
Bottom Line: The Soros-Obama vote-counting rumor is factually inaccurate on every count and there is literally (as Vice President Joe Biden would say) nothing to back up this claim.
We understand Soros influence with the Democrat Party runs extraordinarily deep. We get that. But before we start accusing people of rigging elections, we need to have at least a shred of evidence.
Soros has enough explicit ties to President Obamas administration and campaign without having to embellish them, Malkin notes.
So, rest easy, folks.
Considering that votes are counted separately at each of the thousands of precincts in each state makes it impossible for a single company to be the vote counter. Regardless of where it’s located.
I don’t think I’m the only one saying/thinking this:
It is crawl-over-crushed-glass time. Every vote counts because we not only need to win, we need to vote to overcome the theft margin(s).
Of course, George Soros, the one who made the statement about having control over the Secretary of States, the people who would probably be responsible at the state level to count the vote, doesn’t play into any of this.
Or does it???
GS, pure as the driven snow.....
Count the whole country on paper ballot.
It’s not rocket science. Canada does it.
You may not be the only one, but I, personally, will never crawl over crushed glass to vote for a Massachusetts RINO who as as little regard for the Constitution as his slightly more Bolshevik counterpart.
He wasnt my first choice either, but I will crawl over crushed glass to vote for ABO.
I look at it this way: If we vote in Romney we may still have a rough ride, but we have at least a shot at preserving America. With the One we have NO shot.
I understand and respect your sentiment, but this is where I stand.
I’ll probably end up voting for the anti-constitutional liberal from Mass...unless somebody puts crushed glass in my path and tries to make me crawl. Then, no way!