Skip to comments.Review: Windows 8 Is Both Infuriating And Brilliant
Posted on 10/19/2012 7:26:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
We've had our hands on a Samsung Series 7 Windows 8 tablet PC for the past couple of weeks.
Microsoft just might have a winner on its hands with Windows 8.
But that's only if users are willing to forgive Microsoft for the many stupid design mistakes it made with its new operating system.
There's a big learning curve to Windows 8, just like there is for most new tech. The thing that's particularly infuriating is that so many of these things should be intuitive.
* You have to relearn stuff like how to close a file and an app. The familiar "X" is gone. Now you have to tap a window until it changes size, then drag it to the bottom of the screen, and for some reason, this doesn't always work with every app.
* You have to find the secret way to see your open windows: Grab a window, swipe it to the right, THEN swipe it back to the left until it magically changes into the open windows list.
* You can swipe screens to the right to move through each window in the order you opened them. But you can't swipe to the left to move forward.
Insane. Infuriating. But here's the thing. None of that matters. Because eventually, users will learn that stuff. And that's where the brilliance of Windows 8 comes in.
Because the full operating system, the one that runs on an Intel chip, is both a full-fledged PC and a tablet.
With this one device, a typical knowledge worker, student, or home-office worker has everything in one device.
The PC can run Windows 7 software (even if the new user interface for Windows 7 is a little clunky). They also have a touchscreen and portable device for playing games, reading,
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That interface is incredibly ugly ... there’s absolutely no excuse for each to take up that huge amount of screen space, and completely obscure the background.
Any guess as to how fast the Linux drones arrive and say how much MS sucks?
If the background is what's important, save your money and get a digital picture frame.
Windows Me, Vista and now Windows 8... beta versions released as the next new thing. Ain’t gonna be swiping my screen to try to make this clunker work.
“Any guess as to how fast the Linux drones arrive and say how much MS sucks?”
Reporting for duty! And Unity sucks as well.
If history is any indication, Windows 8 will be a failure. Why do I say this? Sandwiched between Windows 98 and Windows XP was the horrendous Windows Me. Likewise, sandwiched between Windows XP and Windows 7 was Windows Vista. I believe Windows 8 will follow suit. I think I’ll wait for Windows 9 to upgrade.
It's their new "Metro" look. It's supposed to be totally different so it can be used on tablets, phones, etc.
Can't say I like it much and am not sure if I will be adapting to Windows 8 any time soon. I can't see any reason why I would want to right now and do not have time to learn a whole new operating system.
It reminds me of Ubuntu's "Unity" design which I did not care for and dropped ... switching instead to Mint. Win 8 is going to have to really knock my socks off for me to even think about moving from Win 7, which IMHO, is the best operating system ever.
Agree with you on that, did not care for it at all, and I was really excited to try it, what a letdown.
I’m a big ubuntu fan, but since they are going unity, I decided to give windows 8 a try in my lab. Once you get to know the tricks to get around in it, it is not too bad. I am tinkering with both windows8 and server 2012. With enterprises just now really getting into window7, I don’t see windows8 being adopted en mass, but some features of 2012, like their redesigned server manager are pretty cool. I don’t care for the blocky looking graphics though. I assume that is for the benefit of tablets.
It's an ugly interface; it looks like a pre-school caricature of a computer. Even Windows 3.1 looked better.
Heck, a monochrome, all text VT-100 hooked to a VAX looked better. A bunch of switches on an IMSAI looked better.
This is pure "different for the sake of being different", and it's nasty.
Well, isn’t that just precious.
Apple's lawyers have already made the claim that a swipe to the left to move forward is proprietary technology along with their copyrighted and innovative thin rectangle with rounded corners design. Also any design using contrasting white and black, differing shades of gray and or derivatives of red, yellow,and or blue also infringe on Apples copyrights.
At home I still use Xp Pro and my laptop uses VISTA which so far runs pretty good. How would you game on W8???
are you sure? I understood apple suits were about swipe to unlock.
Also remember apple and ms have some form of settlement agreement going way back.
Yes, I'm aware of that. It looks nasty on a phone, too.
Android vs Windows 8???
Android looks professional.
Windows 8 looks childish.
I have zero experience with Windows 8.
However, after reading many articles about it and paying attention to Microsoft’s history, I’m predicting Win 8 will be a failure a la Windows Vista.
The one thing I like about 7 is the ability to "snap" windows to fit. Of course the program I need that for the most isn't 7 compatible and I am stuck running it in a virtual XP environment.
It looks like an operating system for morons.
Win7 was bad enough with the ridiculous ribbon menues. And the ‘links’ are no longer obvious (as in a buttons). Instead, one has to move the mouse pointer all over the screen to ‘discover’ ahhhh! there’s the link. And their file explorer that jumps around and hides items is another problem.
“The familiar “X” is gone. Now you have to tap a window until it changes size, then drag it to the bottom of the screen, and for some reason, this doesn’t always work with every app.”
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It's a box of swithes.
If it offends your delicate aesthetic sensibilities to look at it, buy somehting else.
The excuse would be that it is helpful on a small cellphone screen, but on a full PC or tablet screen, you’re right it is very unnecessarily jarring and untranquil.
You got that right, such a hideous waste of space.
Tile sizes can be changed if you wish. I’ve been using Win 8 for over 6 months and I really like it. Become more intuitive the more you use it and it is a great hybrid between the ipad and fully functioning PC.
I’m not big into this stuff, I only want it all to work...but you’re right. Looks like shi’ite, even to me.
Their next legal claim will be that touching a computer screen, even if it produces no response by the computer, is a violation of their copyright, and spelling the word “apple” is a trademark violation.
ME was an unmitigated disaster, but Vista was not. I have never understood the intense hatred for Vista. Granted, I picked it up after SP1, but it was just as flawless as 7 has been.
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No, thank you.
I have a Vista laptop and PC for years now (both Dell’s)...I have had zero OS problems with them. I just replaced the motherboard in the PC myself and got it back up and running without any major brain damage.
Looks like a screen designed by lawyers. “We have to make it this ugly so that Apple doesn’t try to sue us for patent infringement.”
WTH??? MS needs to fire some people here!
First the screw up Office with that cryptic, useless “ribbon” interface. Now, they’ve decided to dumb down Windows with the Playskool interface. That is downright kindergarden-ish. Something I’d buy for a 2 year old!
What about Bob?
Change for the sake of change is the only way you can get people to “upgrade” when their current operating system does everything they need.
I understand that Windows 8 has several advantages.
1. It’s quite a bit faster than Windows 7.
2. It has better boot security, to prevent rootkit malware from taking over.
3. I has better printer setups.
On the other hand, it seems to be designed primarily for touch screen iPads, which I don’t use. I prefer a laptop on my desk, with a screen big enough for easy reading.
I believe you can get it from most computer makers with a keypad and mouse already installed, and also that you can fairly easily install the old desktop if you prefer it. I believe that Dell, for instance, will let you order it already set up with these options in place.
On the other hand, my experience with operating systems in the past has left me with two rules:
1. Don’t upgrade systems. Wait until you buy your next computer with the new system already installed.
2. Don’t be in a rush to buy a new system. Wait for the first Service Pack to fix any lingering problems that weren’t fixed in Beta.
MS is offering a very low price upgrade. But I would hesitate to take it. I’d rather wait a bit.
True dat. Give me KDE any day...
Point continues to be missed.
To be fair, both OS’s have the ability to revert to a more familiar interface. Win8 can look like Win7. However, you have more desktop options running Linux. I installed something called gnome-panel on the latest Ubuntu that gets back fairly close to the classic Windows XP desktop look.
With the exception of switching to Mint, I ditto everything you said. I really like Windows 7 and don’t see any reason to change.
I hated Ubuntu Unity and went back to Ubuntu 10.10. I may give Mint a try, though.
Can't you come up with better bait than that?
So goes the theory, but there have been complaints that what it really amounts to is locking down the hardware so people can't install an alternate OS like Linux. Granted, it's been a couple of months since I've been up to date on that kerfuffle, so maybe the concerns have been resolved.
“It’s a box of swithes. If it offends your delicate aesthetic sensibilities to look at it, buy somehting else.”
All computers are boxes of switches. We are discussing the merits of some new switches. People look at those switches often, so aestetics are part of the equation. This just happens to be an ugly box of switches. (I’m guessing it will be easy to customize and this is no big deal.)
Why are you personnally offended and behaving rudely over criticism of the appearance of an OS desktop? Were you on the design team?
“2. It has better boot security, to prevent rootkit malware from taking over.2. It has better boot security, to prevent rootkit malware from taking over.”
They’ll just sneak it in through media player or something. /giggles