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Just voted! (Colorado, vanity)
Me

Posted on 10/19/2012 8:39:49 AM PDT by Joseph Harrolds

Well, I've dropped off my ballot.  Voted a straight Republican ticket, natch.  "No" on retaining all judges (never seen one kicked out, but I can at least try to make them think about job security!).  

Ballot issues:  "No" on all except marijuana legalization.  If someone wants to get stoned, go ahead...it's none of my business any more than if they want to get drunk.


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1 posted on 10/19/2012 8:39:55 AM PDT by Joseph Harrolds
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To: Joseph Harrolds

Job well done! Can’t wait till the 6th got an itchy trigger finger :)


2 posted on 10/19/2012 8:43:46 AM PDT by Michigander222
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To: Joseph Harrolds

Ballot issues: “No” on all except marijuana legalization. If someone wants to get stoned, go ahead...it’s none of my business any more than if they want to get drunk.


IBTZ, Lib-wad.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 8:44:50 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

What county are you in - still waiting for mine to come in the mail.


4 posted on 10/19/2012 8:45:18 AM PDT by JD91
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To: Joseph Harrolds
Legalize marijauna is question 3 in my state.

I intend to do my part in keeping it illegal.

5 posted on 10/19/2012 8:47:35 AM PDT by Wyrd bi ful ard
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To: JD91
What county are you in - still waiting for mine to come in the mail.

I voted in Jefferson County last Monday.

Wife and I went to the registrar's office and explained that it would be the last time we would be in Colorado prior to the election.

They printed, we voted, and left.

6 posted on 10/19/2012 8:51:16 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: Joseph Harrolds
"No" on all except marijuana legalization. If someone wants to get stoned, go ahead...it's none of my business any more than if they want to get drunk.

Better get ready - the nanny state lovers will be on here in a minute to accuse you of wanting to legalise child pr0n next...

7 posted on 10/19/2012 8:51:43 AM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to make Obama a minor footnote in the pages of history)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

You pretty much read my mind, Oh did you vote for 6A because it was endorsed by Tommy Tancredo and is opposed by Chickenpooper and RINOwens?


8 posted on 10/19/2012 8:51:50 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Responsibility2nd

Ballot issues: “No” on all except marijuana legalization. If someone wants to get stoned, go ahead...it’s none of my business any more than if they want to get drunk.

Tommy Tancredo endorsed 6A and that is good enough for me!


9 posted on 10/19/2012 8:52:15 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

I’m with you, I think.

There are already too many irresponsible idiots out there on the road.

If people can’t drink responsibly, I don’t think they’ll STAY HOME stoned, either.


10 posted on 10/19/2012 8:53:11 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Responsibility2nd
IBTZ, Lib-wad.

What other powers do you wish to give to The State?

Are you a fan of Prohibition? If not, why not?

11 posted on 10/19/2012 8:53:21 AM PDT by Joseph Harrolds
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To: GraceG

Tancredo jumped the couch years ago and is in the middle of libertarian loonie land.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 8:55:12 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Joseph Harrolds
I am in Florida. I have that day off so I am going to vote on Election Day, then later in the day play bus driver for the rest of my extended family.

Several in my family admitted they voted for Obama in 2008, every single one of them admits it was a mistake and they are as fired up as I am to get rid of him.

I also do the same with the Judges. Ad for the Marijuana I am on the fence post personally. If there ever was a law to make it legal. I say business can still fire you if you test positive. I am thinking liability. Your a driver for a company, you smoked on the weekend but Wednesday you were involved in an accident, you were not technically impaired at the time of the accident, but if it went to court that positive drug test would sink your case and cost your company a ton of money.

For Legal Pot, there have to be cast iron rules if abused and caught driving ect.

Again, I am on the fence post still. But I am glad you got out and voted. nothing wrong with a healthy debate. :-)

How is it looking in Colorado?

I am in the Tampa Bay Area, in fact Uncle Joe is doing a speech 5mi away from me today. I drove by the area, its a retirement community and there are old farts out there holding signs already, Poor Joe is not going to get a nice welcome. The Orlando Sentinel yesterday endorsed Romney. This central part of the state (I-4 Corridor StPete, Tampa, Lakeland & Orlando) decides for the state and from what I see, compared to four years ago. Romney will win Florida by a comfortable margin.

13 posted on 10/19/2012 8:58:31 AM PDT by TheShaz
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To: Joseph Harrolds
Did they put out the “Blue Book” on the issues? I did not get it. Where is the stuff online.
14 posted on 10/19/2012 8:58:31 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

What other powers do you wish to give to The State?

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I want the State to have whatever powers their citizens vote them to have. And - Thank God - there have not been enough idiot citizens - even 2 years ago in California - to vote for legal dope.

Pro-dopers are liberals. And your “Prohibition” arguments are worthless. Try to stay relevant here. Pro-dopers - like pro-abortion, pro-porn and that sort of crap is LIBERAL clap-trap.


15 posted on 10/19/2012 8:59:59 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Joseph Harrolds

I plan to vote against dope legalization. The legislation will expand government to handle regulation, enforcement, and tax collection, increase the number of users, and give more money to public schools. Looks like more socialism.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 8:59:59 AM PDT by STYRO (Do not accept unconstitutional government as legitimate government.)
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To: JD91
What county are you in - still waiting for mine to come in the mail.

Jefferson. Got it a couple of days ago.

17 posted on 10/19/2012 9:01:07 AM PDT by Joseph Harrolds
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Legalize marijauna is question 3 in my state.
I intend to do my part in keeping it illegal.

The problem with much of the War on Drugs is how much of it is illegitimate; even the Prohibitionists realized that the federal government needed a constitutional amendment to have that sort of power. (Ironically, I hate precedent, thinking it little more than the judiciary playing the children's game of 'Telephone' with legal rights... and often cited as justification for the War on Drugs in rulings.)

Consider, for a moment rulings like Raich wherein the government said: "even if there is no actual market, because it is illegal, we can still regulate it because if it wasn't illegal it would have a market and would therefore be subject to regulation." That sort of reasoning is extraordinarily dangerous, for it starts from a nullity and draws a conclusion from it.

Consider, as well, the impact on the fourth and fifth amendments. No knock raids are common, and "oops, wrong house" raids are as well; there is little more unreasonable then some group of heavily-armed thugs breaking into your house without warning. The police also can "arrest property", assuming that it is (or would be, or was) used in connection with drugs... gutting the 5th's protection of property.

Thus, considering it's inherent illegitimacy, and it's resultant consequences of the dissolution of rights, I cannot condone the War on Drugs in any manner -- even if I disdain them and think it's stupid to ruin your body, and life, with them, the cost of them being illegal (especially when the roots of it are illegitimate) is far, far too high.

18 posted on 10/19/2012 9:03:36 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: STYRO
I plan to vote against dope legalization. The legislation will expand government to handle regulation, enforcement, and tax collection, increase the number of users, and give more money to public schools. Looks like more socialism.

 

HAH! You just uncovered libertarians dirty little secret. They all claim to be for less taxes - smaller government. But in the end - they lie. They support legal dope which leads to the issues you mentioned.

Good catch.

19 posted on 10/19/2012 9:04:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Joseph Harrolds
If someone wants to get stoned, go ahead...it's none of my business any more than if they want to get drunk.

Until it's one of your loved ones that they crash into.

20 posted on 10/19/2012 9:08:12 AM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the time of no return?)
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To: GraceG
You pretty much read my mind, Oh did you vote for 6A because it was endorsed by Tommy Tancredo and is opposed by Chickenpooper and RINOwens?

Nah...I voted for it on the merits of the issue. I hadn't even heard that Tancredo had endorsed it (good for him).

BTW, it's Amendment 64, not 6A.

21 posted on 10/19/2012 9:10:57 AM PDT by Joseph Harrolds
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To: bgill; Joseph Harrolds
If someone wants to get stoned, go ahead...it's none of my business any more than if they want to get drunk.

Until it's one of your loved ones that they crash into.

You are more likely to get hit by a drunk driver, a distracted driver (like texting) or a driver impaired by prescription drugs like Ambient or even just a plain sleepy driver than you are a stoned driver.

Impaired driving is already illegal and legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana will not change that.

22 posted on 10/19/2012 9:19:12 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: Joseph Harrolds

You’re right it is 64, I got confused with all the other amendments that i voted N on. Also I like that you vote to throw out all the judges, you vote on a “Throw the bums out” mentality :)


23 posted on 10/19/2012 9:31:08 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: bgill

If someone wants to get stoned, go ahead...it’s none of my business any more than if they want to get drunk.

Until it’s one of your loved ones that they crash into.

Impaired driving is already illegal. Infact, I would say legalize pot and make sure that all registered pot smokers live within walkign distance of a 7-11 and cannot get a drivers licese.


24 posted on 10/19/2012 9:33:57 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Responsibility2nd
HAH! You just uncovered libertarians dirty little secret. They all claim to be for less taxes - smaller government. But in the end - they lie. They support legal dope which leads to the issues you mentioned.

Sorry, but by that logic we should also outlaw alcohol and ammunition...that way they wouldn't be heavily taxed and regulated.

Would I prefer legalization that didn't include heavy taxation & regulation?  Sure...but that's not the choice I was given for which to vote.  Kind of like Romney in that respect.  He wasn't my first choice, but now he's the only (realistic) choice I have.

BTW, you didn't answer my question:  Are you in favor of Prohibition?  If not, why not?

25 posted on 10/19/2012 9:50:32 AM PDT by Joseph Harrolds
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To: Joseph Harrolds

Nothing like getting broadsided in your car by a stoned driver... But you voted for it so its your decision.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 10:39:28 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag
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To: ThePatriotsFlag
Nothing like getting broadsided in your car by a stoned driver... But you voted for it so its your decision.

There's also nothing like getting broadsided in your car by a drunk driver (a far greater threat, BTW)...but I wouldn't vote to make alcohol illegal.

Would you?  If not, why not?

27 posted on 10/19/2012 11:54:58 AM PDT by Joseph Harrolds
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