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TCM Classic Movie Alert 10/19
TCM ^ | 10/19/12 | Vision

Posted on 10/19/2012 10:06:50 AM PDT by Vision

This is your Turner Classic Movie channel alert!

Tonight...must see...Andy Griffith...A Face in the Crowd(1957), 8pm est

"A female radio reporter turns a folk-singing drifter into a powerful media star."

Overview & Cast


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: film; movie; tcm
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1 posted on 10/19/2012 10:06:54 AM PDT by Vision
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To: abb; archivist007; Arthur McGowan; BluesDuke; Bockscar; bonfire; boxlunch; Cold Heat; CottonBall; ..


TCM Classic Movie Alert!

A Face in the Crowd(1957), - 8pm est
2 posted on 10/19/2012 10:08:11 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Vision

The only time in his career that Andy Griffith showed his true face to the public.


3 posted on 10/19/2012 10:09:26 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi

Why do you say that?


4 posted on 10/19/2012 10:11:21 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: shibumi

Yeah....


5 posted on 10/19/2012 10:11:21 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: shibumi

Indeed. Lonesome’s audience abandoned him after that “open mic” gaffe. Ol’ Andy was careful not to let his true self be known.


6 posted on 10/19/2012 10:14:46 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Vision

Is this the movie that Soro’s secrtary threatned Glenn Beck with?


7 posted on 10/19/2012 10:16:24 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: shibumi

Have you seen the movie?


8 posted on 10/19/2012 10:18:42 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Vision
Probably a whole pack of "heelots" waiting to watch that flick...

:^)

9 posted on 10/19/2012 10:18:58 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: Vision

I just asked myself the question I was asking you...(Sheesh!)

Have *YOU* seen the movie?


10 posted on 10/19/2012 10:20:50 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Vision

Patricia Neal simply *smoulders* in this movie, and the young Lee Remick is a sight to behold as well. A must see, and not just for the eye candy. :)


11 posted on 10/19/2012 10:20:56 AM PDT by TonyInOhio ("But, the Obama has no clothes!")
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To: GraceG

I have no idea.


12 posted on 10/19/2012 10:22:49 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: shibumi

A Face in the Crowd is by far the best acting work Griffith ever did, IMO.

He never repeated a role of that intensity and focused on humor and comedy thereafter.

I wonder what his career would have been like had he chosen to pursue more serious character roles?


13 posted on 10/19/2012 10:23:19 AM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: shibumi

Yes


14 posted on 10/19/2012 10:23:47 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Rebelbase

I do not believe he “acted” all that much.

I look on him as a typecast in “Face.”


15 posted on 10/19/2012 10:24:55 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: TonyInOhio

I, too, would like to know about the meaning behind the “true face” comments. I had heard once that he was not sweet as apple pie like his Mayberry character, but nothing to indicate he was a nasty person.


16 posted on 10/19/2012 10:25:26 AM PDT by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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To: Vision

Then I believe you’ve seen the true Andy Griffith.


17 posted on 10/19/2012 10:28:22 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Vision

This is a very thought-provoking movie. Another one I would recommend that is more obscure is “Wild in the Streets”. I’m certain that Bill Clinton got a ton of inspiration from this movie (in fact, this movie actually suggested stealing FBI folders on political leaders to use as leverage, which is exactly what the Clintons did!).


18 posted on 10/19/2012 10:30:06 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: Vision

Thanks for the alert. Have been wanting to see this since Beck mentioned it a while ago.


19 posted on 10/19/2012 10:31:56 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Vision

Last night’s TCM special on “Cinerama” was great - included clips in the “Smile Box” format - didn’t quite capture the real thing on the big screen, but still interesting to learn about the development of the three camera system and the first seven channel sterophonic sound - and I never realized that cinerama is an anagram for “American” - I saw “Cinerama Holiday” back in the fifties as it was meant to be presented - when the narrator says “this is Cinerama”, the curtains open and you’re “on” a rollercoaster starting down a steep drop, it’s literally eye-opening - thanks for the memories TCM......


20 posted on 10/19/2012 10:32:00 AM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: shibumi

So you just believe this?


21 posted on 10/19/2012 10:36:08 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Vision

Everyone’s entitled to their opinion, eh?


22 posted on 10/19/2012 10:44:13 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Vision

Regardless of his politics, he played the hillbilly to the Max. No Time for Sergeants, through the original series of The Andy Griffin Show, he was an excellent actor. This movie portrays how success can corrupt anyone who is not educated (formally or informally)about humility


23 posted on 10/19/2012 10:47:56 AM PDT by shadeaud ( “Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8”. Just doing my duty a Christian)
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To: cld51860

What did Beck say about it?


24 posted on 10/19/2012 10:51:34 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Intolerant in NJ

It’s looked great, but work kept me from watching.


25 posted on 10/19/2012 10:52:23 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Vision

I remember Andy Griffith and Ron Howard telling me that I was a racist for not supporting Obama last time around.


26 posted on 10/19/2012 10:52:45 AM PDT by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: Vision

Great movie. I’ve noticed it has been on several times a year the last 2 or 3 years. I just saw it a month or two
ago.


27 posted on 10/19/2012 10:56:13 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: The Duke

I have seen both. I thought Andy did his most “acting” in Faces. As far as WITS, it’s Fourteen or Fight! It was a fun movie and I’d watch it again if it comes on TCM. As far as surreal movies Videodrome and Mr. Frost are memorable.


28 posted on 10/19/2012 11:08:07 AM PDT by BipolarBob (G Orwell was an optimist it seems.)
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To: Rebelbase

Griffith later told an interviewer that the movie “changed” him and began to affect his relationships with friends and family, so he never sought another screen role like Lonesome Rhodes. However, he did play villains in several made-for-TV movies in the 1970s, and it was always something of a surprise to see him as a bad guy.

A friend of mine who worked in advertising for many years had some dealings with Griffith back in the 80s, when he did commercials for the Shoney’s restaurant chain. He told me that Andy could be a pain in the ass from time to time; he was late on the first day of the shoot (he elected to drive from his home in North Carolina to the South Carolina restaurant where the commercial was being filmed) and was rude to some fans who heard he was in the area and requested his autograph.

However, my friend says he was much more cooperative during later taping sessions, and Griffith was well-regarded by his colleagues on the various TV shows he starred in.

I agree with your assessment of his performance in “Face.” It was by far his best dramatic role, and Griffith deserved an Oscar nomination for work. The reason he didn’t is rooted in Hollywood politics; by the time the film appeared, director Elia Kazan had voluntarily testified before Congress about communists in Hollywood, angering many in the entertainment industry. Kazan and screenwriter Budd Schulberg were also the first to recognize the unholy alliance between Hollywood and politics, namely the Democratic party (the politicians who appear on Lonesome Rhodes’ TV show were almost certainly Dims). So, that only reinforced industry bias against the film.

Still, Griffith’s work was certainly Oscar-worthy. I didn’t see the film until I was in college (early 80s) and I was amazed at the power of his performance. Reportedly, Elia Kazan had doubts about Griffith’s ability to play the role (given his background as a monologist and comedian), but Andy blew him away in the audition and the rest is history.

As for how Griffith might have fared as a film actor, he would have probably been type-cast and eventually faded, or become a character actor. The smartest thing he ever did was sign on as Andy Taylor and negotiate a deal that gave him 15% of the show. He was set for life when that show left the air, because the “Andy Griffith Show” made millions in syndication alone.


29 posted on 10/19/2012 11:15:41 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Vision

That is not a very good movie.


30 posted on 10/19/2012 11:19:48 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Rebelbase

Seeing this as his greatest acting achievement is a bit of the old anti-comedy bias, methinks. Merely because it was a serious movie with certain Big Ideas does not make his acting any better. Although, most of what we have to compare it to is a sitcom, which naturally leaves no room to grow or develop. Still, I felt as if he wasn’t doing much more than riffing off his bumpkin persona.


31 posted on 10/19/2012 11:28:12 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Vision

Apparently one of Soro’s people gave a copy of it to him.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/what-present-did-george-soros-personally-send-glenn-beck/


32 posted on 10/19/2012 11:30:19 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Rebelbase

Just to clarify, I realize people prefer showier performances. But it can be harder to play the straight man than the card, and in my opinion we are wildly unbalanced as to the type we praise.

Then again, the showier roles are the easier to notice, and if we started tipping the balance the other way it’s be harder to get people to agree. There’s acting as exhibition and acting as convincing people that you aren’t acting, and if you do the latter by definition people are less likely to praise you for it. Because how can they if they didn’t notice?


33 posted on 10/19/2012 11:33:18 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Vision

An old movie with a humorous twist on the media manipulation angle is “Nothing Sacred” with Frederick March and Carole Lombard. Directed by William Wellman.

Hilarious movie.


34 posted on 10/19/2012 11:38:38 AM PDT by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: cld51860
I've seen it. Screwball is my favorite genre.
35 posted on 10/19/2012 11:47:25 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Rebelbase

Griffith played an evil murdering powerful white southerner in the TV movie “Murder in Coweta County” in the early 1980’s. It was based on a true crime from the 1940’s. His character murdered a white sharecropper. Griffith was very, very believable in the role.


36 posted on 10/19/2012 12:10:25 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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To: Vision

Andy Griffith was a card carrying lefty...so no thanks.

Look at our new FB page Hollywood Left and Right. We aim to diss the libs and praise the conservatives who work in the entertainment industry.

JUST SAY NO TO J. LO! Time to stop giving these folks our money.


37 posted on 10/19/2012 12:15:59 PM PDT by Mountain Mary (Pray for our Republic...)
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To: cld51860; ExNewsExSpook; mickie
I'm a life-long classic movie aficionada and scholar. "A Face in the Crowd" meets my persnickity high standards.

It's different, gripping, with a darn good story and acting.

I highly recommend it to all who are open to something a little off-beat.

Leni

38 posted on 10/19/2012 12:21:46 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Vision

Sunday afternoon TCM is playing “Onionhead” starring Andy Griffith as a Coast Guard cook. I’ve never heard of the movie. It’s a comedy. Any good?


39 posted on 10/19/2012 12:42:43 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: BipolarBob

I guess Andy did a pretty good job of acting ... I was too busy appreciating the cheerleader’s legs! :O


40 posted on 10/19/2012 1:54:38 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: An American In Dairyland

I remember that one and liked it.


41 posted on 10/19/2012 3:42:03 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: MinuteGal

I concur...most people see the obvious indictment of television and its ability to sway the great unwashed, particularly when the medium is used by con-men and charlatans. But most miss the subtext about the alliance between the entertainment industry and politicians, particularly Democratic politicians. Senator Fuller, whom Rhodes coaches as a media advisor, is a prototype of the Senate Democrats of the 1950s and 1960s.

I also find it rather interesting that the film received only mixed reviews when it first opened. Clearly it was ahead of its time, but I still believe its reception would have been much better if Kazan hadn’t spoken out so forcefully against communists in Hollywood. Kazan knew the reality of Hollywood’s reverse blacklist. Those supposedly blackballed for their communist sympathies were eventually rehabilitated, while those who admitted their ties, or spoke out against communists in the entertainment industry had difficulty finding work for the rest of their careers.


42 posted on 10/19/2012 4:00:34 PM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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Well, yum
“Mister Magic”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JwPzNqUJhs

“No Matter Where You Go.........”
http://www.myspace.com/clannadie/music/songs/i-will-find-you-theme-from-the-last-of-the-mohicans-remastered-in-2004-28217306

The show this guy put on were killer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVhh3UYwyNw


43 posted on 10/19/2012 4:37:44 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: eartrumpet

-“Onionhead” starring Andy Griffith .. Any good?”— Hey ‘ET’ I liked ‘Onionhead’ but if it was to be a sequel to ‘No Time For Sargents’ it failed. AG was good but the story bogged down in a tangental romance. If you like Andy watch it but the storyline falls off. They didn’t let AG be funny as He was in NTFS or as Lonesome. As Lonesome He starts as a counry fool but later shows He is deceptive and cruel, the ability of a great actor...


44 posted on 10/19/2012 4:56:03 PM PDT by djone (He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy,)
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To: eartrumpet

I don’t know, never seen it. Will try to check it out.


45 posted on 10/19/2012 5:05:57 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Vision

Thanks Vision for the reminder. This is one of my favoites. AG had a wide range of acting ability but his comedy was the best. By the way, do you like AG’s comedy story about the hillbillys first football game? There is another from his first comedy standup album about a country boy’s first job carrying 50 lb sacks of sugar through the woods...Or Hark (they said hark alot in them days)


46 posted on 10/19/2012 8:34:10 PM PDT by djone (He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy,)
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To: Vision
Thanks Vision for the reminder. This is one of my favorites. AG had a wide range of acting ability but his comedy was the best. By the way, do you like AG’s comedy story about the hillbilly's first football game? There is another from his first comedy standup album about a country boy's first job carrying 50 lb sacks of sugar through the woods...Or Hark (they said hark alot in them days)
47 posted on 10/19/2012 8:36:08 PM PDT by djone (He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy,)
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