Posted on 10/19/2012 10:08:13 PM PDT by Feline_AIDS
There's almost always someone like you on these threads. I assume your defense is that you were "only joking".
But if you were NOT joking, here's what your statement implies:
1. You are willing to take what I have by force. We know that, and we're ready for you to try.
2. Beneath your thin veneer of civilization, you are willing to kill and steal. Is that really the person you want to be?
My question is, what caliber bullet would it take to go through that door? Would a 38 hollow point do it, or would it take a larger caliber to do it? Since I’m on the inside, I’d like to know what someone outside would have to shoot to go through the door where I would be standing.
I’m sure some of you gun guys know the answer to this question.
“If your neighbor breaks in to your house to steal your food for his children, will you shoot him?”
Yes.
I have some canned meats, but will check that site out and order from them.
Many, many thanks for the tip!
You must have some stout hinges on that door. If it really is 2x 1/4” plates, then it’s going to weigh about 350 lbs if it’s a standard 30” door, and over 400 if it’s a 36.
I certainly hope your version of the SHTF is the right one. If so, we’ll come out of this just fine.
The key to your scenario it that government will eventually ride to the rescue. How? Like with Katrina, only nationwide?
I hope you are right, but I think you’ve underestimated a key variable: What happens if the power goes off, nationwide, for any extended period of time?
With no power, how long will it take for the cities to run out of water? What happens when millions of people have no water?
With no power, how long will it take for the distribution of gasoline and food to cease?
With no gasoline or food, and chaos in the cities and surrounding areas, who will restore the power?
With no gasoline, food, or power, what happens to that year’s crops?
The longer the power is off the more difficult it will be to turn back on.
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SIDE NOTE: If power is off for an extended period we will see many civilized people turn into animals. We even have a poster on this thread who says that is what he plans to become. The animals will eventually be weeded out, and society will be better off without them. But how much damage will they do before they are gone?
Any rifle round will go through it. Some pistol rounds will.
True story. I had a '73 Lincoln Continental Mk VI, lovely old blue boat, you could land an aircraft on the hood of the thing.
I drove the hell out of it for years until I turned a piston sideways in the 460 dumptruck motor under the hood. I made it home with the bottom of the oil pan completely gone, and parked it out in the back acre. It never moved again.
It became the target/backstop for light arms practice.
At point blank, the heavy .45 pistol rounds would not penetrate the door. They rocked the old boat, but they didn't enter the passenger compartment.
A .22 rifle round would easily pass through the door and usually got stuck in the far door from a range of 50 meters.
/johnny
Hello Mr. Yakamoto and welcome back to the GAP!
This is just another Y2K scare that never happened.
Don’t fall for it.
Save you money.
I would like to think you are right, but I don’t think the debt incurred by our irresponsible government can be sustained. There will be a tipping point. How bad it gets is anyones guess.
Born to Conserve ~ Do you have internet access?
Kartographer ~ Here's your sign.
It's a fair question. He FReeps, but he doesn't have running hot water???
That would be as ridiculous as spending money on internet access, yet being too poor to have a bathtub.
(pause) oh wait. *blush* (pause again) I don't have a bathtub.
*nevermind*
“Any rifle round will go through it. Some pistol rounds will.”
There is a metal piece on both sides of the door.
A zombie would likely have a hand gun rather than a rifle. To be safe, then, I shouldn’t stand in front of the door. There is a door to the laundry room immediately inside that door, so I could stand in that doorway and be out of the line of fire if someone shot at the door.
This has been bugging me for some time - was it safe to stand in front of that door if someone knows I’m there and shoots at the door. The answer is, from what you say, I’d better not stand there.
Don’t fall for it.
I am NOT paying $250 bucks for a water heater right now. Maybe next year. I get by just fine without it. Running hot water is nice to have, not need to have.
I've lived at the edge of disaster since 2008. You develop skills to cope. ;)
/johnny
I think a Mormon president would be a good influence on the country in this, even if no other, regard.
I understand that lower-level government will be completely gone. Family first. What I was saying is that the federal government has prepared for a SHTF situation for a long time. They are prepared to sustain the pinnacle of the government, and that’s something I don’t see any preppers really considering. Everyone seems to assume that every member of the armed forces, every legislator, and everyone in the executive branch is going shake hands and say “gentlemen, it’s been an honor,” before they all go home and tuck their handguns in their waistbands and light a cigar.
No one considers the possibility that the government will be around after the dust settles. It would probably speed recovery, too, depending on the political tide at the moment the SHTF. Liberals would try to grab guns and probably start a civil war, while conservatives might use armed citizens to help rebuild.
Prepping for the SHTF often seems to be a way of preparing to live as we live now instead of learning how people managed to live 200 years ago. It seems that instead of buying 30,000 boxes of Oreos, it might be wise to learn animal husbandry instead. Hippies and their organic farms are useful to learn from here, too. Maybe knowledge is the most important prep.
Disasters come in all shapes and sizes. Sometimes, losing a job can be a personal disaster if you aren't prepared.
I save about 15% on average by buying in bulk when stuff is on sale. Up until about 40 years ago, many people went into the fall months with a large store of food put back.
I know that the tuna I have put back isn't going to get cheaper over the next year.
/johnny
Tough call...
How old are you?
Read about Norman Borlaug sometime.
/johnny
/johnny
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